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    Mine made a mistake by not trying to grab the scissors when she fled.
    Hmm, that wouldn't have made sense
    1. she has a broken arm and it would result in even more luggage to carry around, as if her own weapon isn't already large enough.
    2. she is trying to escape and needs the flashlight as cover
    3. the flashlight would disappear and leave her directly in front of the huge dog.

    Nah, there is nothing she could've done in that situation, I expected her to shoot a huge laser beam though, since the "pinch" was real this time. But it looks like she wasn't able to lift her gun with these wounds

    2) Mine should debate it for like, one or two lines, and then run. None of this staring at her, having Sheele say something, having Mine arguing back. That's just dumb.
    Did that scene really turn out that long? It didn't feel like it when I watched it...
    edit: Hmm yeah, nothing too serious though

    1) Sheele chops off both of her arms, twice, then waits for her to scream out her special move. Then she waits for the dog to transform and grab Mine. Why didn't she just immediately decapitate her? Plenty of time to do this. That was just stupid.
    Ya, she could've finished the job, especially since they just said that all they have to do is to kill the wielder
    It was okay for me that she cut her arms twice, because she was disarming her that way.. and she didn't really "wait" but the growl stunned her, but killing the wielder should've been the priority, especially since it wouldn't take long to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Jumping towards the dog that just ate your friend does not seem like a good idea, especially if you want to escape.
    Joining a small rebel group fighting a huge empire doesn't seem like a good idea either if you are interested in things like escaping without risking anything.

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    That argument is stupid, no reason to have a deathwish just because you fight for what you believe to be the right thing...
    They might as well attack the emperor directly with that statement in mind... that's just silly

    and the rebel group is probably not as small as you think it is, since high ranked officers in the imperial army are already deserting to them
    If I'm not mistaken, the leader even said that the *army* grew so large that they created divisions such as Night Raid to handle covert-ops stuff and so on
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    The main rebel army seems to be in some remote region far from the capital, which of course makes sense as it would be an open war otherwise. It's just this bunch of elite assassins performing precision strikes in the capital. And of course the argument was stupid because I just twisted Shinta's words. But the underlying fact remains: They should push forward at 120% or they will pushed off the map themselves. You can't really say totally losing a 2 vs 1 fight (the nameless grunts appearing later don't count) and even losing the Imperial Arms would have been anything short of pitiful. They can't go on like that for the sake of escaping fights if they want to retain a shred of pride, that is, want to feel they can fight anything else but practically defenseless goons and other easy targets. They would be nothing but petty terrorists following such a path.

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    As you said, they are pretty much on their own, so why would they seek a fight?
    They are not supposed to do that, they assasinate and retreat you could say its their *job* to avoid a fight. That's what they did and tried this time around too. On top of that, she had an broken arm and couldn't even fight anymore, pushing forward is wrong. Sometimes its better to fold even after you committed a large sum and not go all in just because you *might* win the whole pot, you might be able to come back with better cards later.

    They can't go on like that for the sake of escaping fights if they want to retain a shred of pride, that is
    They succesfully assasinated a relic wielder one episode prior to this one.. its not like they are on a losing streak and it's not like they care about "pride" either
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    Yeah, my main problem wasn't the escape, for that was obviously the only and best decision considering the circumstances. My problem is that she didn't try to do anything to take the Imperial Arms with her. Those weapons seem to be of immense importance and very rare, so it's not something you should simply let the enemy have without a fight. Obviously they are even more important for a tiny crew of assassins. If you say she was so beaten she couldn't do anything, then she has absolutely no business lecturing to Tatsumi or bossing him around. She should just shut up and join him in the newbie training. For she's far too weak.

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    As previously said, you can't take the flashlight and escape if the other girl needs to hold the flashlight to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    As previously said, you can't take the flashlight and escape if the other girl needs to hold the flashlight to work.
    The corpse needed no flashlight. A corpse needs nothing but a grave. Mine has a machine gun, which would have made a short work of the nameless soldiers, or at least discouraged them enough not to approach if she couldn't have aimed too well with one arm broken. The Armless Justice girl was already deep in her own little world of insanity, so she wouldn't have, likely, commanded the dog to chase Mine. In fact I doubt she would have even noticed Mine taking the scissors before fleeing.

    Still, all said and done, perhaps this complete fiasco will prompt Mine to grow as a person and drop her baseless high attitude. At least if she has any sense left in her.

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    but


    how do you operate such a large weapon, pick up the scissors (which are as large as a person) and fight your way through the masses with that
    and wasn't Justice Girl fully aware of her surroundings during that moment?

    Still, all said and done, perhaps this complete fiasco will prompt Mine to grow as a person and drop her baseless high attitude. At least if she has any sense left in her.
    What I liked about the group and her in particular was that even though she can't control her anger, she realized that that Sheele death was in a way "just" and that the girl (even though she clearly enjoyed the killing) only did her duty as an imperial solider.
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    If this wasn't so representative of her personality, I'd be far more understanding. But after she said a bunch lines like this to Tatsumi a couple of episodes ago, she has some rotten guts to return to the base now after such a failure. She was supposed to be such a high and mighty, experienced pro assassin according to her own boasting.

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    Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her for the same reason. It's a really boring character "trait" too - but in the end she didn't fail to complete her mission and was at least intelligent enough to not die an unneccesary death, which would've ended in the loss of another relic. From what we've seen, you might even think that she wanted to fight, but Sheele convinced her to not do it.

    edit: Haha, after watching EP3 again, even Tatsumi knows that she isn't as competent as she pretended to be
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    Uh...help me if I'm wrong here, but a broken arm, a dead best friend being eaten by a huge regenerating monster, surrounded by guards and a hostile "JUSTICE!" righteous-psychopath qualifies for just about the biggest pinch you could possibly get yourself in.

    That thing should have been able to produce a beam the size and intensity of a thermonuclear blast in a convenient cone shape, even one-handed. Why would you even need to aim at all? Just pull the trigger, lay waste to everything, and then run. The thing does have a strap.

    I agree that there was no way she was grabbing the scissors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Uh...help me if I'm wrong here, but a broken arm, a dead best friend being eaten by a huge regenerating monster, surrounded by guards and a hostile "JUSTICE!" righteous-psychopath qualifies for just about the biggest pinch you could possibly get yourself in.

    That thing should have been able to produce a beam the size and intensity of a thermonuclear blast in a convenient cone shape, even one-handed. Why would you even need to aim at all? Just pull the trigger, lay waste to everything, and then run. The thing does have a strap.

    I agree that there was no way she was grabbing the scissors.
    I suppose it'd be a question of if she could handle the recoil of that kind of blast in her injured state, she had trouble even lifting the weapon earlier so perhaps firing at that power level would have simply injured her further. There is also the question of limitations. We don't know much about her weapon, perhaps it's maximum output isn't high enough for that kind of attack. If it was i'd have to imagine they would have just aimed her at the castle, swung a sword at her neck and had her fire. Mission complete.

    I agree the scissors were a lost cause, going after them would have been stupid on many levels. Not the least of which is that they were providing the cover she needed to escape that monster dog (apparently this series has some cross over with Earthworm Jim lol) and the large group of enemies. On top of that it's hardly a sound choice, tactically, to risk losing two Imperial Arms to recover one.

    It was a kick ass episode, i was really shocked they killed Shelee after she'd become so close with Tatsumi. Super glad they did it though, maximum emotional impact. It's nice to have a series that isn't afraid to kill off a character right after they've made you like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    I suppose it'd be a question of if she could handle the recoil of that kind of blast in her injured state, she had trouble even lifting the weapon earlier so perhaps firing at that power level would have simply injured her further. There is also the question of limitations. We don't know much about her weapon, perhaps it's maximum output isn't high enough for that kind of attack. If it was i'd have to imagine they would have just aimed her at the castle, swung a sword at her neck and had her fire. Mission complete.
    This would be what would I expected to happen given the pinch she is in. Also agree that trying to recover the scissor would be so silly and practically impossible. How will she carry it anyway given she has a broken arm lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    It was a kick ass episode, i was really shocked they killed Shelee after she'd become so close with Tatsumi. Super glad they did it though, maximum emotional impact. It's nice to have a series that isn't afraid to kill off a character right after they've made you like them.
    After reading this I had a sudden A Game of Thrones flashback.

    Thanks shinta|hikari for the sig.

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    Episode 7 - HS






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    Tatsumi is already as good if not better than Mine, but there's a huge gap left to the likes of Bulat or Akame. All in all the team has quite a wide spectrum of levels of power. In that sense it's no wonder they took in a greenhorn like Tatsumi. Too bad Tatsumi thinks too much of himself (despite his occasional humble words) and thus makes basic mistakes, which lowers his actual power compared to the potential. It's not so bad when fighting against nonames since it removes hesitation and rises efficiency, but it will kill him and endanger his allies when facing real foes, such as the one in this episode. I suppose that's one aspect of his overwhelming naivety the older Night Raid members haven't managed to beat out of him yet.

    I could have lived with Akame not showing such visible grief. It wasn't unclear to anybody she's a really good girl, so she could have maintained her forced calmness. If only Tatsumi hadn't been such a dick. At least he had the decency to punch himself. He should do that every hour.

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    I think it would have been better if she abruptly left and he followed her to see her trying to hide it. The message was she cries behind closed doors so not to emotionally destabilize the others. It's too bad the execution here was so heavy-handed.

    Tatsumi excels when he stays planted firmly on the ground, but he keeps leaping into the air like he's fighting one of those giant beasts from the first episode. He's an understated fighter. When he plants his feat firmly and waits for his attacker to come in, he hits them every time. When he zips along the ground toward he opponents, they lose limbs. When he tries to get all flashy like all the others, he does stupid shit. The more he reigns it in, the stronger he gets. He's not blessed with one of the Arms either, so I think it goes a long way into saying how good of a fighter he actually is, but he needs to calm the hell down.

    I can't be the only one who thinks Esdeath will fall for Tatsumi, or even more hilariously, Bulat?
    The foreshadowing was super thick in that scene, funny as it was. It has to be one of them.

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    But Bulat is full on Homo so that would leave Tatsumi.
    Poor poor guy,

    Oh wait...Lubback is also available. But we all seem to forget about him XD

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    That's why Esdeath falling for Bulat would be funny. Because he is totally gay, and she probably doesn't know that. She'd go psychopathic, moreso than she already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    That's why Esdeath falling for Bulat would be funny. Because he is totally gay, and she probably doesn't know that. She'd go psychopathic, moreso than she already is.
    Indeed. Let's hope she goes that way! It wouldn't actually even be totally out of the question if Bulat ends up defeating her underlings (these three). That already might pique her curiosity. Tatsumi, however, doesn't need a harem. He only needs Akame.

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    That Alucard voice! Nakata Jouji is about the only male voice that can make me wet. Please don't kill him off.

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