Aldnoah.Zero

[Ryllharu]

I give up.

Clearly your vaunted experience with EA's Battlefield 3 and/or 4 trumps how things like CIWS and weapons actually work.

Never again will I question the knowledge and experience of a video game player.

Nice ad hominem attack too by the way. My argument is invalid because I am some great, heartless torturer of small animals by killing them in one shot.

[MFauli]

Battle veteran Ryll has spoken.

Major lol.

Can we go back on topic and talk about something relevant? Like ... which version of the princess is hotter, real or disguised one?

[Ryllharu]

We could discuss the other ridiculous firearms issue in this episode:

The fact that Slaine was moving on a cable at a really slow speed and trained guards 10 meters away or less couldn't hit him. Stuff like that makes me miss Valvrave.

Marito wasn't kidding. Neither side of the military has had any experience in decades. Makes me start to wonder who was piloting the kataphract that showed up at Tanegashima.

[David75]

The plasma blades dude showed how untrained they are, this is not just about being cocky. He had the only Kataphrakt that needed to be very active in combat, and he showed he doesn't have much skills.

The "desintegrate everything I touch" kataphrakt guy just needed to be fairly passive, since it was almost impossible to hit him before his Achiles' heel has been found.

Now, our six flying Mazinger punches kataphrakt seems to be another rather passive kataphrakt. If Inoha finds a way to stop those punches/hands/arms, I'm pretty sure that lady will be pretty useless and be beaten rapidly.

In a way, I understand Marito's line.
Of course those Martian kataphrakts are extremely strong and overpowering those on earth. But if the pilots are average and cocky, it's still possible to own them as Inaho showed a number of times.

[KrayZ33]

I give up.

Clearly your vaunted experience with EA's Battlefield 3 and/or 4 trumps how things like CIWS and weapons actually work.

Never again will I question the knowledge and experience of a video game player.

Nice ad hominem attack too by the way. My argument is invalid because I am some great, heartless torturer of small animals by killing them in one shot.

I couldn't care less how C-RAMs work tbh neither do I believe *you* could explain it properly lol. However, they had nothing to do with this situation, first of all its a human shooting these things, not some computer guided weapon. I don't even know why you bring them up? I just want to know why you think its more difficult for a person to hit that one


Btw...That second comment made it sound like you actually *did* shoot them, what kind of sicko are you?

And I didn't really attack you in person, it was a joke, but its not like you aren't at fault for that
saying something so stupid:

Okay, let's try this, since you are both basing your opinions entirely off Battlefield and not, you know, actually firing a gun at a moving target (like shooting a running squirrel...which is hard as fuck).

Really? How is someone supposed to now read it as "Lawl, you play your silly video games, I shoot real living targets!" Even if I leave out the part with the squirrel, it's still funny you think you know exactly how stuff works (because of...what exactly?). Guess what, military training is pretty normal in most countries it's not like people never held a weapon in their hands.


I still fail to see a valid argument concerning the difficulty of shooting targets on the horizon compared to shooting targets in the sky. For example, the picture of the carrier you posted - why do you think the trajectory would look *any* different for the fist comming from above. It's the same deal.

[Buffalobiian]

BF4 screens were shown for ease of capture, not for its physics engine.

Can we go back on topic and talk about something relevant? Like ... which version of the princess is hotter, real or disguised one?

Disguised. Easily IMO.

[Roko]

My impression was that Inaho's shots were all still on target for that last one, it's just that the increased velocity that the last arm had with the addition of gravity, in addition with a horrendous angle since Inaho was right next to the bridge, meant that the bullets did not have sufficient force in the right direction to deflect the arm. I find it hard to believe that he was 3/3, then suddenly couldn't hit at all with his next couple of shots, unless the sun was in his eyes or something.

[Xelbair]

I couldn't care less how C-RAMs work tbh neither do I believe *you* could explain it properly lol. However, they had nothing to do with this situation, first of all its a human shooting these things, not some computer guided weapon. I don't even know why you bring them up? I just want to know why you think its more difficult for a person to hit that one


Btw...That second comment made it sound like you actually *did* shoot them, what kind of sicko are you?

And I didn't really attack you in person, it was a joke, but its not like you aren't at fault for that
saying something so stupid:



Really? How is someone supposed to now read it as "Lawl, you play your silly video games, I shoot real living targets!" Even if I leave out the part with the squirrel, it's still funny you think you know exactly how stuff works (because of...what exactly?). Guess what, military training is pretty normal in most countries it's not like people never held a weapon in their hands.


I still fail to see a valid argument concerning the difficulty of shooting targets on the horizon compared to shooting targets in the sky. For example, the picture of the carrier you posted - why do you think the trajectory would look *any* different for the fist comming from above. It's the same deal.

fast moving targets. when target is big enough for you to reliably aim at it is too close to change it trajectory, angular speed is not that high, but the target is too small to hit accurately. while target overhead has even less angular velocity - in this case.

add the fact that 'horizontal' fists were below them - aiming at something below you isn't as comfortable as aiming at target above.

Also - it looks like he hit the last target - but it was noticed too late for him to change its trajectory.

[KrayZ33]

http://www.chuckhawks.com/shooting_uphill.htm

The fact aside that its pretty much impossible to hit any of the targets, how far away was each target? edit: The girl kept screaming "X mil" and after some wiki research, isn't that information kinda useless for a target thats closing in on you at missle speed?


However its certainly not easier or more comfortable to precisely shoot +70° upwards than it is to shoot -20° downwards.
It's particularly hard if you have no time to adjust after you just shot 3 targets at horizon-level

[Xelbair]

http://www.chuckhawks.com/shooting_uphill.htm

The fact aside that its pretty much impossible to hit any of the targets, how far away was each target? edit: The girl kept screaming "X mil" and after some wiki research, isn't that information kinda useless for a target thats closing in on you at missle speed?


However its certainly not easier or more comfortable to precisely shoot +70° upwards than it is to shoot -20° downwards.
It's particularly hard if you have no time to adjust after you just shot 3 targets at horizon-level

she gave him offsets to the direction, not the distance - so he could acquire the target in sights, and hit it with great accuracy - probably by using her radar.

[shinta|hikari]

Episode 7.

Inaho = Awesome.

[MFauli]

Inhao = Apparently the only person on earth paying attention to his surroundings.

Those hands being vulnerable when they´re about to attack? Their engines being vulnerable? Who´d have thunk!
:/

Also, how convenient that they find this huge flying battle ship otta nowhere, lol.

And lastly, all those soldiers leave it to the little assassin girl to finish off the Martian Kataphrakt. Lol.


If it wasn´t for the incredible soundtrack, I wouldn´t put up with this shit. Only badass moment that I have to acknowledge: when Inaho jumps on the other guy´s martian glider without a single word of communication needed. That was great.

[Ryllharu]

The one badass moment was when the took out the enemy kataphract by ramming it with the battleship's bow, crippling it completely.

The girl finishing it off was overkill in my opinion, but it at least shows she intends to kill them regardless and may be a risk to the Princess.

As for the rest of the developments in this episode, you had to know they were coming. Their previous ship was all but dead (so some form of new transport was needed) and they've been hinting that the Princess will have to take an active role to even the scales for the last few episodes. They were running out of mechs at a pretty substantial rate as well, so the seized kataphract being used is also a given.

I did appreciate the effort they took to show how damn loud weapons of that size are, especially when directed toward a enclosed space.

The soundtrack is 50/50. The instrumental songs are quite good, but when it shifts to jpop inserts, they almost always feel out of place. It isn't Symphogear ffs.

[Buffalobiian]

Dat soundtrack.

Inaho is cool. His application of theoretical knowledge and hypothesis testing easily wins my approval. I wonder at why he's top sniper for their team, but that's only a minor complaint.

I thought it was stupid that the woman gave each of her fists a name though. Children? Seriously?

[Ryllharu]

Inko is way better than Inaho. In general.

I also realized that battleship looks like the Saint's Cradle from Nanoha with a different paint job (smaller too obviously).

The big question still hanging out there is why these two things were stuck there. They say the kataphract crashed too. I'm guessing the doctor (Slaine's father) figured out a countermeasure to Aldnoah energy and shorted the kataphract and warship out. Probably from orbit or whatever. Then the Heaven's Fall in that area was meant to cover it up so it couldn't be repeated. If you think about what Morita has said about that battle, there was no reason for the Martians to have to use such punishing methods. The lunar gate overloaded? I'm starting to doubt it.

[Xelbair]

They were named after demons if i recall right - I'm sure I've spotted Ronove and few others from Lesser Key of the Solomon.

[MFauli]

The soundtrack is 50/50. The instrumental songs are quite good, but when it shifts to jpop inserts, they almost always feel out of place. It isn't Symphogear ffs.

wow, complete disagree. every time the vocals go off, it gets awesome.

[David75]

The music seem to use the same constructions/instruments as in Kill la Kill.
I also thought it was way too convenient to get that ship and kataphrakt in an abandonned base/combat area. I suppose that a better princess/slaine story management could have led to a better way to get that...

A bit of a useless ep, except for that last scene I guess.

[KrayZ33]

A bit of a useless ep, except for that last scene I guess.

Please come again? Half of it was fighting, which is always good, the other half was pretty much only "progress" and revelation

wow, complete disagree. every time the vocals go off, it gets awesome.

the vocals ruin it most of the time, for example the first 10 seconds of the ED, the "chiptune-ish" part, is cool, the slower, calmer part with vocals too, but that german at the end makes me cringe.

[David75]

Of course it was action, but lacked novelty/interrest compared to previous fights, even with the unexpected help of Slaine