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    2014 World Cup

    I know this is a pretty international board, so I am sure some of us will be watching the World Cup. How are you watching and what team are you rooting for?

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    ESPN, rooting for the US until they lose, then Japan, then whichever team shows the most heart and skill.

    I missed Brazil v Croatia but saw the highlights. The dive that led to the second goal for Brazil was disgusting.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    I don't know which was worse, Spain vs. Netherlands or last night's Heat vs. Spurs game.

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    Pretty awesome if you're a Spurs fan like me. The ESP/NED game was pretty cool, if you didn't mind seeing Spain give up with all that time remaining.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    The Simpsons explains soccer:



    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Watching Brazil/Croatia now. Fuck that ref.

    Even Brazil's third goal was bullshit. Brazil did a dirty tackle on a Croat, took the ball, and scored. Fuck that.

    Watching Spain/Netherlands now. Wow, what is Spain thinking? Netherlands is bad ass. Especially Robben.

    Watching England/Italy. This is what futbol is all about. Sportsmanship and gaming. I was almost moved to tears when those Italian players helped that English player (Sterling) with his leg cramps. Cahill fouled Barotelli and immediately apologized. And both were satisfied. Classy.
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    feels good, pepe got what he deserved and ronaldo managed to hit a "1-man wall" with his free kick, holy crap I laughed so much

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    If the USA get through the group stage this year, Pepe will definitely be one of our mvp.

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    Pepe.. probably the biggest asshole running around

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWV1YBxQo44

    I don't know why he is still allowed to play, in fact I'd put him into jail because most of his attacks are actually threatening the careers of his victims and are flat-out assaults

    I'd like to hear what his teammates are thinking about him, they must hate him.

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    From my experience watching hockey, teammates love a guy like that. The more opponents hate him, the more his own team loves him.

    Watching that video, I saw a few pretty bad attacks, but a lot were not. I'll say he's good at attacking the ball while defending himself, which results in a lot of stray cleat contact to his opponents. Meanwhile in most matches I see other players go for headers and kicks with no regard for who is around them, then they writhe on the ground in agony from any contact.

    Best part is the mountain of a man at 2:55 who goes down like a sack of potatoes when Pepe shoulders him.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    I'll say he's good at attacking the ball while defending himself,
    he's not attacking the ball and that's the problem.

    From my experience watching hockey, teammates love a guy like that.
    then hockey must be a horrible sport, its not fun to play 10vs11 and not fun to defend against several free kicks just because 1 guy has a miserable temper
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    he's not attacking the ball and that's the problem.



    then hockey must be a horrible sport, its not fun to play 10vs11 and not fun to defend against several free kicks just because 1 guy has a miserable temper
    In some of those clips he's attacking the ball, particularly the ones where he's airborne. He does the smart thing and uses his legs to protect himself (by kicking at other players going for the ball). Maybe not illegal, maybe dirty, but effective. Most of what I saw were bad reactions to blatant diving and flopping, which would set anyone off.

    True, playing 10-11 is a huge drain on your team. In hockey it's not so bad since penalties only last 2-5 minutes, and you don't permanently go down a man for a match. So maybe his teams don't love him, but they don't hate him either.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    He was tiger kneeing everyone when he went for a header.

    He is an asshole.
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    In some of those clips he's attacking the ball, particularly the ones where he's airborne. He does the smart thing and uses his legs to protect himself (by kicking at other players going for the ball)
    why do you think that is "smart".. its a foul in every freaking situation, you use your upper torso not your knees and legs, wth

    and his constant tackling with stretched out legs in that compilation is extremely dangerous, regardless of whether he is able to hit the ball first or not, its a foul
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    Going vertical for headers puts you in danger of other players colliding with you. By raising your knees and legs you shield yourself a bit. Might not be the cleanest play but it's smart. They're considering making kids wear helmets at the high school level because of head injuries from mid-air collisions.

    I don't dispute that he's an asshole, but some of his actions (like the Muller headbutt or the kicks to that first guy in the video) are out of frustration at the flopping and diving.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    what are you trying to say, I don't get it

    By raising your knees and legs you shield yourself a bit.
    by learning karate you can kick everyone on the field senseless

    but some of his actions (like the Muller headbutt or the kicks to that first guy in the video) are out of frustration at the flopping and diving.
    so? its okay to injure people out of frustration?
    he didn't hurt mόller by doing that, but his team.


    @ topic

    spain is out, sheesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    what are you trying to say, I don't get it

    by learning karate you can kick everyone on the field senseless

    so? its okay to injure people out of frustration?
    he didn't hurt mόller by doing that, but his team.


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    spain is out, sheesh
    England is out too. (edit: with a loss or tie with Costa Rica this weekend)

    What I'm saying is, if you jump into the air with your legs dangling, another guy who also jumps will crash into you, possibly headbutting, slamming your torso, or taking your legs out from under you. If you jump with you legs pulled up and flailing, the other guy who jumps at you will pay the price by eating foot or knee.

    I'm not saying it's ok that he acts out and gets violent. I'm just saying I understand why he does. There's too much flopping and diving in this sport that it's ruining the game.
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    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    England is out too. (edit: with a loss or tie with Costa Rica this weekend)

    What I'm saying is, if you jump into the air with your legs dangling, another guy who also jumps will crash into you, possibly headbutting, slamming your torso, or taking your legs out from under you. If you jump with you legs pulled up and flailing, the other guy who jumps at you will pay the price by eating foot or knee.

    I'm not saying it's ok that he acts out and gets violent. I'm just saying I understand why he does. There's too much flopping and diving in this sport that it's ruining the game.
    I dont understand your point here. I mean that what that guy does is against the rules of football (soccer) and is considered "violent" game. Its not about if it makes sense or not. Its as if you say that its perfectly normal that in basketball you can tackle people down so they dont dunk or run with the ball without bouncing it cause it makes sense to go faster. Anyways this is a sport. No need for "preemptive strikes" (this has become something cultural in the nation since we know when).

    I think that you mix up dirty game with foul/violent game. Its true that sometimes the line between them is thin but in general there is consensus about what falls inside each category. Anyway its true that there is a lot of diving that should be reason for a warning or some yellow cards. Sadly the directives of all big clubs and football organizations dont go that way cause usually the ones that "fool" the referee and get the prize from "cheating" are the top teams/players. Its like the financial crisis. If you, small fish, steal 100k$ you go to jail. If you, mister too big to fail, steal billions you get a bonus.

    Sadly its how the world works and I aint seeing it change just to make sports more "fair".
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    I think some rules don't make sense, and others don't address problems correctly. I see personally that if you jump for the ball, you leave yourself open to injury from other players jumping at you "going for the ball". So defending yourself by raising your legs is smart, plus it can help you get more air (how Michael Jordan used to jump so high and maintain so much air time). Your basketball analogy doesn't really work, as that sort of contact is blatant and not a part of the game. But in soccer, jumping for the ball, slide tackling, and clipping are common occurrences while going for the ball.

    Some of what Pepe does is obviously foul and violent, like kicking that first guy repeatedly in the video. Dirty is more subjective, as you said, it skirts the line of what's allowed and what's not.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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