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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    It's just dysfunctional codependency, the whole point of this show seems to be how badly adjusted the two siblings are for the real world but how perfect they are for this one.

    My sides left the goddamn stratosphere when Steph went "wryyyyy"
    This, also in most events with her 'visions'.
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    Episode 3 - HS






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    Quite a nice episode otherwise, but it's a bit troublesome Sora was panicking so early in the story. I'd have preferred more subdued worrying as this clearly is nothing but the first step for them, of a really long and high flight of stairs. It's not bad they had to improvise and make rash decisions, or that Shiro was momentarily defeated by an incompatible opponent, but showing such panic is showing the limit of their skills. Unless they display remarkable breaching of their limits due to this complete environment change from games to fantasy reality, it wouldn't be good writing. Of course the other alternative is that Sora is actually panicking all the time when playing and then winning like a drunken boxer acting on instincts alone, but I'm not sure I'd prefer that over the kind of melodramatic twisted genius impression he has been giving so far.

    The elf seems so friendly and sympathetic that I have to wonder what's the truth behind this all.

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    Fantastic episode. Sora´s motivational speech to the soldiers, promising free banging of girls, was the best I´ve seen in anime for quite a while. Super lol. Really great stuff.

    Im not too worried about him losing his cool in this fight. It´s him getting accustomed to this world and its magic components.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    It's kinda pathetic (for her) that the two of them are still having Steph wear the bedsheet dress. She's such a loser. It's fortunate that Crammy came along. Steph would have been the worst ruler ever. She's honest, naïve, and worst of all...trusting. They make her a very good person, but that doesn't get one far in this world obviously.

    Regarding their skills and panicking, I'd say it is fair at this point. Sora made the impassioned argument that Steph and Crammy are both underestimating human power...but it doesn't change that Sora and Shiro are humans too, and can't sense magic at all. They know she's cheating, and they also know they can't prove it. They're pretty good at detecting and defeating cheaters on even ground (in the arena combat game they were being cheated against, in the card game, probably by the bandits, etc.) but it is hard for them to protect themselves from cheating or counter-cheat when they have no idea exactly how it is happening or what the opponent is capable of.

    With card games, they can safely assume people will be swapping cards. Sora is good enough that he can palm cards like the greatest of close-up magicians. It didn't matter how she was cheating before, he could probably beat her at card swapping.

    Where they falter is when their opponent is using magic in unusual ways. They don't know what the elf girl can do, so they can't really prepare for it. Sora only figured out one possibility during the chess/RTS game, but had no way to prepare himself for the piece brainwashing method. It is basically like their opponent is reprogramming the game in the middle of a match. That's not something Sora or anyone really could handle without losing it a little bit. Also recall that they're not really used to playing others face to face. We saw Sora freaking out about how close the arena video game was, especially after Shiro abandoned him to nap. I suspect he's always like this when the game is close.

    Shiro can win any game that requires strategy, but only when the rules aren't constantly shifting. When her pieces stopped taking her orders, she replotted her best moves instantly, but over time she simply became discouraged. Her wavering confidence created a feedback loop to the point where she couldn't get them to even respond, resulting in adorable tears.
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    the show could have ended with episode 4 and I'd still say it was a good one, let's hope they won't ruin it!

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    really exciting setup for a story. although i thought he was mentioning "we´re weak" a tadbit too often, lol.

    Loving this anime, though my 2 complaints remain: The rushed story-telling (it´s rather obvious that the author didnt mean for this story to be rich and full of world building) and the annoying, otaku-pandering little sister-relationship. See, I am an otaku, but shit like this makes this anime un-recommendable to friends of mine who are not hardcore-anime followers :/

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    Are you ashamed of being an otaku?

    This reminds me of the siblings in this show. They are badass in their game world, but completely useless in RL due to shame and fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Are you ashamed of being an otaku?

    This reminds me of the siblings in this show. They are badass in their game world, but completely useless in RL due to shame and fear.
    Badass? Sora said like 100 times during the speech they are weak. That was the strange part of that speech. It's like he had some single, limited description of weakness in his mind, and funnily enough it was the wrong definition, the outdated definition, made obsolete by the world obeying only games anymore. So, anybody who can win games is strong, even if it was a brain in a jar with no muscles. If you are weak, you lose games. So, what's the point of declaring you are weak? But it seems like he managed to majorly arouse the folks even with the faulty speech, so all is well when the end is well.

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    That the weak can only survive by playing smart. He told them to make sure their enemies always underestimate them, to confuse them, to mislead them, to start a game with a rules advantage, etc.

    The weaker survive by being smarter, adapting. The strong survive by playing to their strengths. While he said the commandments made the other races weak, he meant that they couldn't take advantage of their particular abilities and got smart too, like the humans once had been when they dominated.

    The other races have learned to play to their strengths. Elves cheat with magic that humans can't detect, beastmen probably play games of strength, and so on. The other races have gotten used to this, and the old patterns have returned, humans just didn't realize it. Now humans are weakest again, it is time for them to play smart again.

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    I moved a bunch of offtopic posts to a new thread, thus the sudden reduction of posts in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I moved a bunch of offtopic posts to a new thread, thus the sudden reduction of posts in this one.
    Thank you. I also suggest temp bans for derailing faggots.

    All the episodes so far have been a setup for what's to come, i for one have high expectations.

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    Steph clearly is an exhibitionist. Not even close to an appropriate reaction to be basically being stripped naked in public. However, she´s gotten pretty hot, gotta admit that.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Episode 6 - HS






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    Looks like even the Japanese knees weren't spared...

    This was actually quite an interesting and intelligent plot. Realistically speaking since Shiro & Sora knew to expect an empty-headed academic would go for a game like this, they had quite good chances from the beginning. Jibril went into the game so sure of her victory that she failed to form any strategy of her own and allowed Shiro & Sora to set the pace freely, and so they did putting their superior scientific knowledge to good use. Jibril could have beaten them with her knowledge of magic, but since she allowed the opponent to set the pace, she had no chances.

    In the end Jibril wasn't so big of a gamer, only a very strong if stiff academic. I also can't help but wonder if she really, deep down, possesses any will to win no matter what, like Shiro & Sora do. After all, she was ecstatic after getting beaten and actually happy to become a servant of a strong player.

    Jibril is also so sexy that I'm sure she will enjoy having a master of touch-type H-games as her new lord. That proving they aren't from the same world scene was pretty funny. Naturally the huge letdown included.

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    It was her pride that really did her in, she thought she was smarter than Sora and Shiro, and played at a non-magic user's level. That said, I took them calling her magic circuits as putting an end to her ability to call/cast external magic.

    I would even say it was only by luck that Sora and Shiro managed to win, because they really had no idea physics worked the same way it does in their world that it does on Earth. That is until you recognize that when he called the H-bomb and it went off, it proved many things, not just what they said in the episode. It proved they could use words their opponent didn't know, could call things from their world and not in this one, and that molecules and atoms make up this world instead of something else like sprites or aether. The physics of both worlds matched. They still kind of gambled that the planet had a mantle and core. It could have been made of cake or cheese!

    It really was the perfect opening move.

    Steph whining about being killed was funny. They're pretty mean to her and she's cursed to be in love with Sora.

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    It wasn't only a lucky guess. Didn't Jibril test Sora and declared he has no magic (spirits) in him? So, he knew he was still in a human body, not some magical avatar body. That told him physics and matter had to have a considerable similarity to Earth, otherwise his human body would have failed long ago. Although the fact the electronics they brought with them still working proves it just as fine, considering they rely on physics quite heavily as well and might be harder for a local god to replace with a magic based replicate, considering this world has nothing comparable, unlike Imanity bodies.

    You might call it luck, but for these two luck really is nothing but a skill among other skills, just like in any rpg with a full skill set. So, among their other plans and strategy they counted it in naturally. I recall him saying in the previous episode that pure luck doesn't even exist, which reflects nicely their attitude of luck being a factor to be manipulated and used against their opponents.

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    Even if it was luck, it wasn't dumb luck. They knew the risks and gambled. It wasn't like they did not consider the possibilities at all.
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    I´m sorry, I cant talk about the actual plot of this episode.

    Did we just witness a non-h-anime where the hero made a girl cum? Wow. Also, I have no idea what it was with those non-nipples, when he wished away all girls clothes. But I liked it.

    Ive gotta say, this is great. I hate forced pervertness in most anime, but it makes so much sense in this one. After all, the hero IS a hentai-loving, shut-in otaku freak. Although he seems to suffer at least a bit from typical "hero gayness", as I like to introduce for a term. I mean, if I were him, I´d have banged Steph a long time ago, and wouldn´t have hated it so much when this hot angel-like girl rubbed her body against mine. Come on, guy, take an opportunity when it occurs!

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    He removed the vagina and nipples of all the girls in the game then stripped them, making the nude scene completely presentable on TV.
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    Yeah, but when did he remove vaginas and nipples? I cant seem to find that scene. Also, wtf, I´d freak out if someone removed my genitals :/

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    The scenes were pretty obvious. The dog was shouting like crazy, and Shiro even gave a look of confirmation to her brother when it happened.

    In CR, it was right after the horse (uma), 11:27 for manko (vagina), and right after they got to the beach (bi-chi), 11:56 for chikubi (nipples).
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