I like the short fights. I'm tired of fights dragging out just for the sake of it. The efficiency is very refreshing. It feels like they are fighting to win, not fighting to fight.
I like the short fights. I'm tired of fights dragging out just for the sake of it. The efficiency is very refreshing. It feels like they are fighting to win, not fighting to fight.
Peace.
I meant overall story, not asking about any characters but as most mentioned so far this arc has been lackluster which is a shame because I felt the first couple of episodes were pretty good. Perhaps a better question is if this is a fair indicator of how the rest of the show is going to be and if it's an adaptation that you're satisfied with.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
While we're at Tatsuya I gave this a chance since you talked about Kazuma from Kaze no Stigma but so far Tatsuya has been pretty boring and lacking in the parts that made Kazuma an amusing character. I wouldn't call Tatsuya badass though, his personality is too lacking to be badass. He's also only faced off against lvl -100 int pawns, the only exception would probably be the vice president but he was still a really low level threat (with no real indicator of how strong he was and he was underestimating Tatsuya). On the other hand Kazuma fought against the strongest spellcaster within the Kannagi within the first two episodes where both had a chance to show off some of their skills, it gave more of an indicator of how strong Kazuma was.
This on the other hand I liked
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
I cannot really say much to avoid spoilers but I guess you can expect more of the same formula, but in larger scales and different settings. It is a light novel after all, and like any (Mondaiji, Baccano, Durara) follow a certain pattern in exposition, climax and conclusion.
It certainly isn't a story with many twists. The mystery about their world and politics are slowly revealed as the story goes along, while the focus is still of course school related. I would say that the Enrollment arc is the weakest arc. It really is a story that gets better and darker as it goes. I just hope that the anime reaches far enough.
What you can look forward to is more information on why characters behave the way they do, and how vast the world of magic is, with many powerhouses all over the place.
Ryll's complaint is valid (except the HOW part, but I cannot elaborate), and is the usual criticism against this story. If you don't mind something like an OOOP protagonist, then keep on riding.
EDIT: About the Vice President, it was explicitly stated that he has never lost since he entered the school. I'm pretty sure that line was said just to indicate how strong he was.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sun, 05-11-2014 at 08:04 AM.
Peace.
Although being strong among students of a high school doesn't really mean all that much, unless a good chunk of the students had a history like Tatsuya and assuming the beginning of the first episode was of any indication of his past. Based on how the vice president was utterly arrogantly and naively looking down on Tatsuya, it's 100% certain he had no real combat experience outside of practice matches. Such people don't compare to battle scarred veterans, no matter how good stats they might have on paper. Tatsuya is further aided by his missing emotions since that ought to mean he wouldn't consider any particular fight insignificant purely based on feelings of superiority.
They're not "short fights" when the entertaining part is over in 30 seconds and then we get a 3 minute lecture on the specifics of the quantum wave mechanics and oscillations of how they did it so quickly (Tatsuya just about every time) or their ancestral history of why they're so much better (Erika).
Show, don't tell dammit! Cornerstone of good fiction!
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I want to like this show, but the sterility of it all is really cutting into my enjoyment.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Sun, 05-11-2014 at 08:58 AM.
@Kraco - Leo, a 2nd division student, was beating up the terrorists quite easily. I'm sure the Vice President is stronger than him. I think you are having trouble about students being able to fight better than veterans. But that's the thing, the people in that school are raised to be fighters. Part of their curriculum is combat. They likely train or fight outside of school as well, especially if you are a from a famous family. They are very far from what you would expect a normal student in RL or other fiction. Tatsuya may be a super special case, but all the students are special. Some of them are better than others (Erika), but that does not mean the weaker ones cannot fight off a gun toting mercenary. They are the elites after all, as said in the first episode.
@Ryll - The problem with what you are demanding from the show is that it cannot be done. Most of the magic will always happen back end, and the explanations (if we even get them) will always be after. They won't be chattering around explaining themselves during combat like the usual shounen series. Some moves may be flashy, but most will simply be effective, and that is what I like about the combat. It is practical.
Peace.
But that doesn't say anything about how strong he is because we don't know what kind of combat level the school has or how many fights he's gone through. Sure Leo stood up to terrorists but that's show afterwards and doesn't indicate anything at the time of Tatsuyas battle with the vice president and as Kraco says there's no indication of what kind of combat experiences they have. Back to Kaze no Stigma, you find out a lot about the Kannagi before Kazuma fights his dad giving a more proper idea of what kind of powerhouse he's facing.
And fighting off these terrorists doesn't say much either because they seem about as smart or even worse than the course 1 students we saw in the second episode and the only ones that are doing it efficiently are the main characters and their friends. Anyway I'll give it until the end of the next arc and see how it turns out.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
The story is getting so bad it's no wonder nobody bothers to make a post:
Episode 7 - HS
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I can't believe some episodes ago I was telling this might be the best show for me this season. Man, how mistaken I was. This story is as wasted as SAO if not more. The perfect example of that was how the idiotic terrorists were still camping at the factory, as opposed to what I was hoping for a couple of posts ago. This story's progress has been planned with a ruler: It couldn't be much more linear and predictable. So much wasted potential and animation budget...
All the same problems that SAO has in terms of narrative and characters, plus it is boring as fuck to watch thanks to the, "we have to explain everything" presentation style. Mahouka's cast just fire off some nondescript magic then explain why their opponents' didn't work on them.
There's no tension in the story at all. You always know the Tatsuya/Miyuki/etc. will win with basically no effort. At least the characters in SAO have to fight hard and yell a lot to win (often by narrow margin) or employ a programmer's ghost to win.
At least Suzaku showed up at the end of the episode. It's hilarious he's voiced by Kirito's VA.
I sincerely doubt I'll be able to make it through 26 episodes. Such a waste of budget and timeslot indeed.
All I can say is that it gets better. Enrollment really is the most boring arc. Suzaku is being propped up as a formidable antagonist.
EDIT: I actually think they are skipping a ton of explanation, or leaving it to speculation, like how Tatsuya is able to sense enemies through walls and attack them from different rooms, and how he managed to destroy the guns instantly considering he has low magic ability.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sun, 05-18-2014 at 10:42 PM.
Peace.
mind showing examples? Isn't it pretty common in anime to do it like they do it here?Show, don't tell dammit! Cornerstone of good fiction!
- something happens that deals a heavy blow to someone
-"What..what happened? I see, he did **** while I was ***ing around. Damnit!"
the other way they do it is:
- something happens in a splitt-second
- character A and B talk with each other mentally while doing it, the scene takes 1-2 minutes instead of 1-2 seconds
I'm actually happy with how they do it in this show, because the fights turn out to be fluent that way and are not getting interrupted by chatter/explanations from bystanders.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 05-19-2014 at 01:46 AM.
You mean the guns designed by the mysterious genius engineer who nobody knows the name or appearance of?
I don't think that means he broke the information block specifically, but perhaps as expected of someone like Tatsuya, rather than as expected of Yotsuba.
It better be, because that's my biggest complaint this episode. We've had explanations about ninjutsu and multivariable calculations, but wall-hacks should be part of a different skill-set all together.
Overall I'm liking this. There's no tension, which is true. If you're watching for tension then you'll be disappointed. If you're a bit like Miyuki and you want to watch Tatsuya overwhelm then you're in for some fun.
I'm a really big fan of the see-through uniforms. They combine the best of two worlds: figure-enhancing tight dresses and elegant gowns that flow with the wind.
Girl-wise, Watanabe Mari all the way.
Incest-wise, keep it up. If this is going to be a show where romance gets nowhere (for the most part), then at least let the reason be incest-taboo rather than a dumb-as-shit protagonist.
Talking about lacking common sense in the previous posts, did you guys really think that the first episode would mention some world war regarding magic and not go back to cover his history?
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Last edited by Buffalobiian; Wed, 05-21-2014 at 07:27 PM. Reason: name fix
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
LOL.
I dunno, Tatsuya's reaction and Kokonoe's demeanor seem to show Kokonoe with the upper hand, which would not make sense if he gave up and gave reverence to Tatsuya's personal information control.
Tatsuya saved the dude frozen by Miyuki in her anger. He said that those terrorists (the stupid trash that they are) are not worth staining her hands for. Katsuto prevented the sword dude from killing a soldier as well. It seems odd because both potential killers easily mutilated their enemies without hesitation, which suggests battle experience. They also seemed ready to kill if they were not stopped. Which is it? Or is it because the situation was not serious enough to warrant it, and Tatsuya/Katsuto thought that way as well and halted their companions?
I am wondering about what kind of ethics these high schoolers with deadly weapons possess.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Wed, 05-21-2014 at 09:33 AM.
Peace.
I thought that the frozen guys escaped death because of the non-lethal tuning that Tatsuya did on her CAD a while ago.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It was only those two: A loose cannon whose (very strong) magic only has an on/off switch and whenever her brother is involved, it only has an on state. The other is a swinging happy swordsman. Miyuki aside, since she needs no explanations, I think the dude simply prepped himself, pumped himself up, for this raid and was thus pulling no punches when the enemy was ready to kill as well. Perhaps a bit of bloodlust. I guess he's a real swordsman.
Tatsuya shot one last time even after all enemies were neutralized, then Miyuki thanks him when she sees the frozen dude alive. The last shot must have been used to save that dude.
Katsuto was extremely calm in the situation though. He looks like he has more than enough battle experience, since he dealt with bullets like they were nothing and even had the leeway to stop the swordsman from excessive violence.
Peace.
Interesting. I thought he shot to capture some extra guy whom he hid from the police, and I assumed we'd get an explanation for it next episode (like what normally happens).
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
That's what I thought too, until the scene with the frozen dude getting dragged out on a stretcher. The shooting scene was also delivered quite differently from the other shots, as if to show it was special.
Peace.
Episode 8 (1080p) - HS
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Considering mankind's ancient dream of flying it seems beyond exceedingly unlikely that nobody had devised a method to do it before this high schooler did it in his basement on his free time. After all, the internal combustion engine was barely invented when the Wrights were already building their shaky plane. And of course people had been reaching the air with various methods even earlier. So, now we are supposed to believe that despite how advanced magic looks in the world of this show, nobody had seriously tried to solve flying? The only example we got were some half-assed folks (I refuse to call the researchers) who didn't get even the basics of the theory correct. Yeah, right. It feels like the author doesn't bother spending 5 seconds evaluating just how plausible his ideas are or rather are not.
Mmmm so if I've understood it correctly flying magic wasn't possible because of interference, similar to when they were talking about it not being possible to use two CADs at the same time or rather you can't cast more than one magic at the time because the first one interfere with the second one. That kinda makes magic feel pretty limited if you can't switch magic on the go, or rather it's not very good at adapting to sudden changes in the situation unless you can override the first magic which seems to be up to ten times.
So what I don't get is if flying only requires a set of magic like acceleration etc this should be possible if you keep casting the same thing over and over but change some of the finer points like how much. I mean Tatsuya did cast three of the same magic at different strengths with the loop system without any interference hence I don't get why there is any interference in the first place.
And flying so won't make hitting balls of light easier if everyone else have to jump.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
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