Alright, fair enough.Originally Posted by Edort4
I just don't understand what "right to free speech" has to do with anything.
This is not a free speech environment. We have to abide by the rules the mods decide on here.
Technically, your constitutional right to free speech should mean you can talk about the manga in anime threads. But I don't see you getting up on a soapbox about that.
But dont rules say you can talk about previews? Am I missing something? Rules are there to abide or not? Im getting confused.
I think the "no preview discussion team" want to change the rules because that thinking should be above the you can "discuss anything inside the episode" thinking team. If they are both equal and have to abid to the rules there is no place for any discussion. Same weight ideas = Status quo = no change.
@darth I doubt thats how rules are set nor in a private forum with owner and moderators nor in the real world. But call me naive. Im done for this topic.
Last edited by Edort4; Sat, 03-01-2014 at 05:37 PM.
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
Yes. The point is, I don't like that rule. I want them to change it. So I make a thread so I can discuss changing it. People will read it. If they agree, they'll support it, if they don't, they'll argue against it. Mods read the arguments and decide if they want to change the rule or not.
That's how rules get set in the first place.
The rest of us are fine with that rule. Really...it's only you.
A. You apparently didn't read everyone in this thread
and B. I'm not psychic, so I wouldn't know that until making the thread and having a couple really huge pieces of shit respond to a discussion with "this is fucking stupid you stupid fucking retard". Cause you know, that's how they make arguments against things they disagree with.
Random thought, the manga actually spoils next chapters events every now and then, so if you want the full experience you should see the previews. :P
Last edited by UChessmaster; Sat, 03-01-2014 at 08:20 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
No one has called you a retard yet...except you yourself just now. I've called you a whiner, and since this is about in-episode previews being "spoilers" (can't stress this fact enough as it gets repeatedly drowned out), yes, you are one, for reasons previously detailed.
I guess this is how "rational" people act. They make a request, get denied by both admins, and then they throw a hissy fit until the rules get changed.
Well, that makes calling us fucking stupid totally okay then.
And they BOTH said I was free to continue discussing it, even though they wouldn't change their minds.
So I did.
If you don't like it, nothing is forcing you to keep reading.
Dial down the snark, it's making you overreach; discussion thread means discussion of any and all content of which the thread was created for, and episode previews (I still can't believe this) are part of that content.
Even though you flatter me by mirroring my sentence usage, please don't put words in my mouth. I've never said a preview has to be discussed, just that it's insane to not want it to; you don't have the right to not know, only the right to not participate.It's insanely irrational and egotistical to insist that, in an discussion about things that happened in the current episode, that the preview(which is a collection of things that happen in the NEXT episode) has to be discussed as well.
Nobody had called you fucking stupid either, all this irrational discussion has got you hallucinating.
Funny coming from the first person in this thread to actually respond venomously to it.
They really aren't. They're commercials for the next episode that happen to air right at the end of the current episode. They put them after the credits for a reason.
A simple Ctrl-F will show that you're wrong.
Edited. Delete pls. Changed my mind.
Last edited by Edort4; Sun, 03-02-2014 at 07:21 PM.
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
(A) I'm the only person to use the term "fucking stupid" and it clearly refers to the concept that an episode preview is a spoiler (comparing it to saying the OP/ED is a spoiler in that same way), not an individual. The reasoning, not a person. But hey, egotism. I called you a whiner only...which ya are.
(B) Previews are not always at the end of the credits. They're quite frequently in the middle of the ED, so they're most certainly not commercials that just "happen to air right after." They are part of the episode. I can't believe how many times we have to reiterate this.
edit:
Since you'll just refuse to believe me, some examples:
- Suisei no Gargantia
- Magi Season 1
Last edited by Ryllharu; Sun, 03-02-2014 at 07:57 PM.
Fuel for the fire: "Spoilers May Not Be That Bad".
Maybe more emphasis on the journey, less on the destination?
(still not planning on implementing spoiler tags)
That's a lot of discussion for what is essentially a completely bullshit concept.
Bottom line, I've experienced things with spoilers, and without them. I've always enjoyed my experiences without spoilers more.
And the amount of increased enjoyment I've received watching something unspoiled exceeds the enjoyment I've ever received from discussing an episode preview.
They can try and psych 101 their way to saying that spoilers are somehow enhancing my experience about things, but I know my own feelings about things.
If being spoiled somehow enhances the way you experience something, that's great. You can be spoiled without also spoiling me. The reverse is not the case in this instance. By discussing it in the episode discussion, you're forcing your choice upon me. Taking my choice whether to be spoiled or not away from me. Whereas my decision to not be spoiled, in no way prevents you from spoiling yourself.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Mon, 03-03-2014 at 12:58 AM.
You know, the anime studios and the TV stations depend on the viewers, that is, customers. They are professionals in the business. If previews were as catastrophic as you said, they wouldn't exist in the first place. They aren't meant to spoil, they are meant to make you look forward to the next episode, to be excited. Unfortunately especially in filler hell anime or poorly written ones the previews tend to be better than the actual episodes, but then again, nobody would complain about the previews in such shows.
The point is that they are "catastrophic" for some people, and not others.
That's why they're after the credits. So people who want to watch them can, and for people who don't, it's REALLY easy for them to stop watching before the preview starts up. The viewer has a choice.
A choice that is apparently taken away from anyone that decides to participate in a GotWoot discussion thread. Avoiding the preview is easy in the episode. It's impossible on the forum if any person decides they don't want it to be possible.
So if I want to avoid being spoiled, my choice is no longer "watch the preview, or don't". Its, "be a part of the GotWoot forums, or don't".
And if the mods approve of that, maybe there's a reason why this place is half-dead(besides the obvious "Forum dedicated to a fansub group that no longer does fansubs")
EDIT: Hah, I just got the most entertaining rep comment for this post.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Mon, 03-03-2014 at 09:00 AM.
I'm pretty sure people who would discuss previews can be easily convinced to add a "From preview" warning text then whiting them out if you just ask nicely.
Worked for me at least.
Peace.
I think this thread has pretty much proven that there's no way in hell that's the case. In fact, some folks here have been such assholes about it I wouldn't put it past them to do the opposite out of spite.
I appreciate that you're willing to do that though.
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