What can you expect from a monster movie? What kind of plot complexity can they deliver with the source material that they have? Eye candy is all I am expecting from this.
What can you expect from a monster movie? What kind of plot complexity can they deliver with the source material that they have? Eye candy is all I am expecting from this.
Peace.
I'm hoping for something more than a special effects mess like most disaster/giant monster movies coming out of Hollywood these days. I want an homage to the classic giant monster movies, something that harks back and makes us nostalgic. Otherwise it will just be another shitty movie rehash.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
A trailer is a trailer, but I liked how there seemed to be more desperation and mystery in this one. The 90's one was kind of too clinical and realistic. I'm somewhat contradicting myself here, though, since I'm almost always annoyed by monsters that don't give a damn about weapons that could penetrate a meter of solid steel and thus many more meters of flesh and bone, but I'm hoping there are some plausible explanations in this one or the script and direction otherwise make technological human efforts largely pointless.
I didn't especially mind the 90's movie, it was entertaining enough for what it was. It even had Jean Reno.
Btw there´s a scene where you can see part of another monster. And, well, may sound silly, but to me it looks like the arm of that monster from Cloverfield. Crossover?
Anyway, I´m curious how they´ll include a human side in the story, since even a nuke couldnt kill this version of Godzilla. Emmerich-Godzilla was rather week, a bunch of rockets took it down. But when a nuke fails, there´s not much left to try. Which, in turns, diminishes the role of humans even more.
I´d say a best case-scenario would conclude a bad end, basically have the whole movie be about Godzilla fighting that other monster, while the military explores option after option to kill these rampant beasts, but keeps failing. And at the end, they´re completely disillusioned and just watch the chaos and terror unfold. If it needs to end on a less apocalyptic note, they could make it a double-ko, where only these monsters were capable to kill their kind, leaving the humans shocked and too scared to celebrate. "We got lucky ...", and then the screen goes black. Bamm!
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
No, there's only the one monster. I think the scene you're talking about shows his tail, which is rather long.Originally Posted by MFauli
Also, they show plenty of human reaction to the devastation, just like in any disaster movie. Elizabeth Olsen as the doctor, Cranston as the "I told you so" scientist, and the soldier guy... we'll probably get to see it all from their perspectives. Hooray!
I think in the end it will be a virus or something small that kills Godzilla.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Haven't either of you two seen the original movie?
Godzilla was released by nuclear weapons, when it used to be appeased in ancient times by human sacrifices. After a number of attempts to destroy this creature essentially created by nuclear power, they resort to using another, even more horrific weapon to destroy it, the Oxygen Destroyer which destroyed all life in Tokyo Bay...but later turned out to cause the creation of the evolving mutant The Destoroyah, and the tactics used to defeat that ultimately rendered Tokyo an uninhabitable nuclear wasteland.
Godzilla is created by human vanity and irresponsibility, and the only way to stop that is to create something even worse. The lesson is that you can't really make up for your mistakes without the cost of even more life. Once you open the door to weapons of that terrifying magnitude, you can't go back.
For all of like what? Five minutes? Still one of my favorite movies though. I'm not ashamed to say that I still get teary-eyed at the end.
It's funny. I've seen some fans on tumblr complaining about the fact that, instead of being created by nuclear weapons, the U.S. was trying to use them to kill Godzilla. Apparently, they felt Legendary is distorting his origin and that the U.S. is trying to make it look like Godzilla is "not our fault" and that Edwards "missed the point of Godzilla entirely", etc. I kind of said what you have here but you hit the nail on the head. Fact of the matter is that this is the year 2014 and we KNOW that nuclear testing was and is bad. The message has already been received loud and clear and Edwards mentioned before that this movie was not going to center around that anyways. The point is that humanity messed up some how, some way, and Godzilla our penance.
Yeah. I'm eager to see how we released Godzilla if this time we were "testing" nuke to try and kill him. That part alone in the trailer sets it apart from the original. I also took the trailer that we were cooperating with the Japanese (and whoever else knew about it, French, Russians, whoever) by using the nukes.
Please don't let it be climate change. We don't need another The Happening.
Article from Empire Magazine in case anyone wants to read it.
I'll have to read it tomorrow. I have to get up early in the morning.
Yeah, but a long time ago and in a galaxy far far away. I'll have to see the original again instead of this new one.
Reminds me of this clip from the Simpsons:Godzilla is created by human vanity and irresponsibility, and the only way to stop that is to create something even worse. The lesson is that you can't really make up for your mistakes without the cost of even more life. Once you open the door to weapons of that terrifying magnitude, you can't go back.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Try watching Gojira and get back to me on that one.What can you expect from a monster movie? What kind of plot complexity can they deliver with the source material that they have?
Facebook interview with Gareth Edwards
Photos from Godzilla Roadshow in Mexico
If anyone is interested.
My impression of the movie (obviously spoilers):
While I think this was a better movie than the previous Gozilla when evaluated the whole package, this still had its own weaknesses. Interestingly enough the greatest weakness was a natural flip side of the biggest strength this had compared to the old one. The good points were that this was a smooth movie from the beginning till the end and in my opinion managed to deal nicely with the fact humans were totally irrelevant in this (aside from providing radioactive material). That's not necessarily an easy feat. That meant the monsters got the center stage and they were jolly good. Very single-minded and following their animal objectives with no nonsense. They simply searched food and breeding opportunities like beasts should. I also quite liked the fact they weren't any product of random nuclear tests but something ancient and only surfaced now again because they suddenly had food available again. Their nuclear physiques worked well, from the EMP to the heat blast. All the action was a joy to watch, with the destruction splendid. The deaths of the two mutos were good, especially the bigger one's.
If I had to mention a couple of the weaknesses, aside from nitpicking details like the totally unnecessary parachuting only done to grant grand visuals (since they were actually so close to the piers they could carry the fricking megaton warhead there, so they could have just arrive by boat as well), I'd mention the lack of Jean Reno, that is, the lack of interesting characters at all. Since the humans were irrelevant, all the characters were more or less irrelevant as well. This also led to the fact there was no thrill in this movie. While watching the monsters fight each other was magnificient visually, it's not like I'd have had too much emotion invested in the match.
A good movie well worth watching.
Kraco, your review makes the movie sound nothing like what was presented in the trailers. While this is often true of trailers, are you sure you're talking about Godzilla 2014 and not Pacific Rim?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I’m still processing what I saw, but my initial impression is that it was a good movie. Not great, but good. There are a lot of things I’m nit-picking on, but the atomic breath gave me goosebumps (despite the fact that I got spoiled). I saw the tail start to glow blue and I had an immediate reaction of "oh s@#$!!". Sadly, even his breath wasn't that impressive. Looked better than the Showa series, but definitely not nearly as powerful as Heisei or Millennium.
Yeah, shifting the focus from Joe to Ford seemed like a wasted opportunity imo. I think I would have cared more if he had watched G crush the Muto. I think it would have given him closure. Him and Serizawa were the only human characters I really cared about and you didn't really see as much of them.
I know there are a lot of talks on the interwebs about how you didn't really see a lot of Godzilla even though it's his movie. In truth, I would say most Godzilla films featured the monsters maybe 40% of the time. So, it didn't really come as much of a surprise to me. These films are really about how humans cope with monsters changing their world. They are the narrators and spectators (and eventually the solution) of the story. But ultimately, they are not what draw people into the movie theater.
I think Pacific Rim was more like the trailers than this movie. When I watched a Godzilla 3D trailer, it showed so much of the final parts of the movie and some other similar glimpses that I got an impression this would be a very chaotic and desperate movie where the humanity, and the audience, doesn't know much of the time what's going on, only that something terrible and monstrous is out there, and they have to do what they can mostly blind and by guesswork. However, that was very much not the case. While humanity was more or less powerless, there was hardly any despair, terror, or chaos for most of the movie. Although thankfully there was destruction at the very least. Despite the material and lives lost, this was a very smooth sail for humans. Those tracking the monsters knew most of the time where they were and they were hardly ever at a loss about what to do next. Their plans didn't really work out, well, ever, but that was given considering this was Godzilla's show.
It may look like I'm criticizing this heavily, but that's not altogether correct. While I was somewhat betrayed by my expectations, that's my own fault, and this movie was still very entertaining by its own right.
A valid point that I didn't think of. In fact, I think that's the thing that's been bothering me this entire time more than anything else. Which I find funny since at the end of the movie, people regard G as a sort of Hero, but they have no idea what from. Really, they should have seen him as much of a threat as the Mutos as he helped cause a lot of that destruction too.
I thought the movie was bad, 2/10
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I guess it tried to stick to the original, maybe too much for today's audience. The only thing I liked about it is how they tried to get a hit on the previous adaptation by having Gojira smash through a suspension bridge AND take missile hits like it was nothing.
Peace.
Not even for the atomic breath?
Apparently they've already decided to do a sequel.
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