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    Finally getting truly good. Cant wait to see the inevitable return of Iori, too.

    Though I dont get it. Why dont people just buy the Red Warrior-model? Sure, weīre always being told that these new opponents are just reeeeally strong, but so much of the strength comes from their gunpla.

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    They'd need to buy the model from a pro gunpla customiser, probably for a good amount of money. A model straight out of a store shelf would be no good against these guys. During the first season we already saw that it took a good amount of customising experience, innovation, and imagination to make a model that would stand a chance. Despite having built models since before he could run, Iori needed a couple of eureka moments to make one that was barely sufficient. Meijin and Aila used models built by crack teams of engineers. Mao had a whole school of gunpla builders' accumulated experience behind him. Nils is a fricking genius and nuclear/quantum physicist or whatever.

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    They could just go on the internet and download a manual for the perfect customization.

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    They could just go on the internet and download a manual for the perfect customization.
    You mean in the same way you could follow a perfect guide to building the strongest character in a PvP game, where in the end everyones still split on which is the most OP invincible and perfect build? Besides having a "perfect" customization that everyone else is using kinda goes against some parts of what makes these Gunpla unique. If you can build your very own mech and fight other mechs why would you want to follow a guide instead of making something personal? Besides if everyone builds the exact same customization it means whoever is the better builder will have the edge while if there's diversity you might have the edge even if you're not as great of a builder. An example would be China's Bearguy that despite being her first customized gunpla still beat a higher quality gunpla simply for being unique. And finally if everyone downloads and starts using the same customization a little while later there's bound to be people who start building counters for it.
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    Yeah. I imagine people actually do read a few good tutorials at some point when they first start to customise, unless they have some older friends or relatives who will teach the same stuff. However, that's just the beginning. Just like you can read some tutorials when you begin to use a whole new computer program (like 3D modelling). But following tutorials only takes you so far, plus, like fireheart said, it's not really your custom model if it's made following tutorials, not your own imagination. Naturally a custom models isn't everything, either, since you'd actually need to be able to use it in combat with 100% efficiency. I doubt Sekai is even close to that yet with Iori's gunpla.

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    Well, then youīre saying gunpla players care more about their machines being unique than them being strong. Which is unrealistic. And you could always take a Red Warrior-gunpla and start customizing that one yourself. Weīre talking about MASSIVE fundamental differences in strength between the various gunpla-models weīve seen so far! Why would you participate in a tournament, when your gunpla doesnt have anything special at all, while there are opponents that can absorb plavsky particles, or use them to use super attacks, or have extreme shields, or super speed, or, or, or? If I were to build a gunpla, Iīd take a look at the gunpla of the champion and try to incorporate at least equally amazing features to mine, so I have options in battle.

    I think we just have to admit that all of this is done for drama purposes, and thatīs alright, I guess. The newest opponent needs to have the stronger, cooler looking gunpla. Itīs a kidīs show after all.

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    Yeah, it's for drama, but on the other hand you also need lots of simple combat experience with various kinds of opponents to get anywhere near the top. The gunpla alone won't do it, the player plays an equal role. Well, that's how it ought to be realistically, just like athletes need countless hours of practice, but naturally we then have the shounen heroes who only need their shounen power to conquer everything.

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    Episode 12 - HS






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    Kind of a covenient episode with Yuuma and Fumina both encountering big mofos who pratically forced them to accept some insight and high level practice. That was some main character luck +10 stuff. But who was the girl Sekai found? Competition for Fumina? At least even the single-minded, hot-headed Sekai paused for a moment when he saw her.

    Stopping the fight was bullshit, as it would have been a jolly good thing to see, but I guess such fights are reserved for closer to the end of the show. Regardless Sekai being all happy finding seriously tough opponents was nice, and a nice contrast as well to Yuuma's loser attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Kind of a covenient episode with Yuuma and Fumina both encountering big mofos who pratically forced them to accept some insight and high level practice. That was some main character luck +10 stuff. But who was the girl Sekai found? Competition for Fumina? At least even the single-minded, hot-headed Sekai paused for a moment when he saw her.
    During Sekai's fight against the black, evil gundam the dude said that Sekai's techniques were similar to another person's on his team. So far Sekai's been the best at martial arts (besides the boxer), so he could meet someone more experienced there as well.

    I marathoned all of this just now and it's pretty fun. The transition between Try and the original series was tough but I'm over it now. I came into Try expecting Aila and Reiji to make babies. The lack thereof was sorely disappointing. At least Fumina makes up for most of it.

    As for the whole "why don't people copy other builds", I think secrecy and skill comes into it. People can figure out you're using Plavasky-absorbing paint, but you're not exactly going to tell them what it is. That goes for the "special abilities" that gundams have. Their base stats actually depend on how well they are built, which comes down to the time and technique put into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I came into Try expecting Aila and Reiji to make babies.
    When I saw the new girl, a thought visited my mind she could be some older version of Reiji & Aila's child, using fancy Aria technology, or that there would simply be a time difference between the worlds. But who knows. My thoughts are coloured by the fact I also really wanted to see Aila & Reiji again.

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    Episode 13 - HS




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    Now we are talking! This show is getting good. The fools who don't take their opponents seriously are getting what their deserved and the others are revving up to over 9000. Though I'm not certain how they are going to rebuild the gunpla to survive a technique the master builder Iori's model couldn't take. But maybe the materials have developed since the time years ago when Iori built Burning Gundam.

    I'm a little disappointed the new girl had absolutely nothing to do with Reiji and Aila. I don't know why she had a design like that when she was a total unrelated stranger, after all. Feels like trolling. But then again, it would have been quite hard to make her related with only a 7 years interval between the shows. At least I can keep hoping we might see Reiji, Aila & a cute little daughter appear before the end...

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    Though I'm not certain how they are going to rebuild the gunpla to survive a technique the master builder Iori's model couldn't take. But maybe the materials have developed since the time years ago when Iori built Burning Gundam.
    I agree. However, what this means is that somehow Sekai's been able to go over the limit of gunpla when no other person has been shown to before. Even the Shia was able to tune Build Burning better than what Iori did.

    I loved the whole sun rising and arms burning thing.


    I'm a little disappointed the new girl had absolutely nothing to do with Reiji and Aila. I don't know why she had a design like that when she was a total unrelated stranger, after all. Feels like trolling. But then again, it would have been quite hard to make her related with only a 7 years interval between the shows. At least I can keep hoping we might see Reiji, Aila & a cute little daughter appear before the end...
    Shia is their daugher spiritually. Or just a cute little Aila who didn't grow up starving.

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    Episode 14 - HS



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    That Lucas fellow is weird. He looks quite big and buff, almost like a jock, but then he opened his mouth and has a voice of a little boy, by a female voice actor. What the hell? The Wilfrid+Shia pair is enough Europe for me (surely they have a dad or mom from Europe, or something) if that's how it's going to be. Also, surely Nemesis wasn't his real last name?

    It's not easy for Fumina: Sekai seems to be a girl magnet, so she'll be soon defaulting on a jealous mode, and will get nothing productive done. Sekai is kind of dense and cares for nothing but martial arts and gunpla, but on the other hand Fumina does have a killer body, so if she can get over the idea of dating a younger man, she should push things forward a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Also, surely Nemesis wasn't his real last name?
    I think it's the grandchild of the owner of Team Nemesis or whatever they were called, the one Aila told to start playing gunpla himself if he want to win.

    Edit: I don't really remember but I think Aila proved herself to the owner of Team Nemesis by beating their ace with a Jeagan which explains the childish sentiment in picking it
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireheart View Post
    I think it's the grandchild of the owner of Team Nemesis or whatever they were called, the one Aila told to start playing gunpla himself if he want to win.

    Edit: I don't really remember but I think Aila proved herself to the owner of Team Nemesis by beating their ace with a Jeagan which explains the childish sentiment in picking it
    It would appear so. It was this post that reminded me of that kid. I wonder if he has a gunpla similar to Ailas'.

    Also, Fuminos' jealous faces are the biggest draw of the show for me and I sincerely hope they never stop. Keep being dense Sekai.

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    Is this a good story? I'm thinking of starting from season one if it is. I avoided this because it seemed to be for kids. Is it?
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    I quite like it. It's more like a sports anime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Is this a good story? I'm thinking of starting from season one if it is. I avoided this because it seemed to be for kids. Is it?
    I was originally thinking the same, but once I started watching the season one as it aired, it was genuinely good, no two ways about it. Unfortunately the second season seems to be weaker, but if you watch the first first (and obviously you would), then it's enough to keep you watching the second as well. It's not like there wouldn't be anything good about this second, it just feels so much smaller and insignificant in comparison, at least so far.

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    absolutely disagree.

    im enjoying season 2 much, much more than season 1. The first season had a few good battles, but most of them ended too quickly and/or in a too constructed/artificial manner. Season 2 has yet to have a single weak battle. I guess what some people ciriticize s2 for is the lack of the supernatural elements from s1. But outside of that, itīs one big improvement.

    Generally speaking, though, GBF doesnt feature a complex, overly original story. Itīs in the presentation and setting. If those appeal to you, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    im enjoying season 2 much, much more than season 1. The first season had a few good battles, but most of them ended too quickly and/or in a too constructed/artificial manner. Season 2 has yet to have a single weak battle. I guess what some people ciriticize s2 for is the lack of the supernatural elements from s1. But outside of that, itīs one big improvement.
    Lack of supernatural? The whole game system is purely supernatural. The first season seemed to have some quantum space communication a la most Gundam shows, but this time we already have Sekai somehow linking his own body to the game, so it's not that different and nothing says he won't be talking via telepathy either before the end.

    My problem is that the battles before the last few eps were unexciting. I couldn't give a damn about them, and there were no promising opponents being foreshadowed or anything. The first season had a different feeling being international and quite soon we were already looking at real mofos from all over the world, and the main characters themselves were preparing to fight them from the very beginning. Now we watched the MCs getting ready to fight another club from the same school, the neighbouring school, the schools from the same city, the schools from neighbouring cities... Blah. It's like trying to get excited over watching local sports teams of some foreign country playing against each other. Who could care less when you'd really be interested in the world championship?

    I admit I wouldn't mind if the meaningful fights, when they finally arrive for this season, would indeed end in a proper manner instead of the kinds we saw too often in the season one. But the settings for the fights in the first season were better.

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