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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    the big twist is going to be that Nyanta looks EXACTLY like that irl!
    He's some cultured, good looking, 40-something master or bar owner.

    Length of hair will vary (but he will definitely have some), and facial hair is definite.

    edit: and no glasses.

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    I thought he was Shiroe's boss at whatever tech company he worked at and Akatsuki was a college student a year or two younger than Shiroe. Lastly, Henrietta's real name is Umeko and she's an accountant.

    Thus concluding the only real-world information we know.

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    I'm pretty sure that Shiroe said he was about to graduate from college so he's still in college and Akatsuki only said they're basically the same age. It's never specified if they're the same age or who's older from what I remember.
    You are here alone again
    In your sweet insanity
    All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
    Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
    When all the world turns away to leave you lonely

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    I remember that there was an episode where Shiroe explained why he (and most other people in the Tea Party) called Nyanta danchou, but I thought it was because he was like a boss/leader. I could well be wrong. A quick internet search didn't bring up anything useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireheart View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Shiroe said he was about to graduate from college so he's still in college and Akatsuki only said they're basically the same age. It's never specified if they're the same age or who's older from what I remember.
    You're right, he's a graduate student. Akatsuki didn't specify, but she's probably within a year or two.

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    Episode 17 - HS






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    I thought things were speeding up, but in the end there's no such development in sight, after all. A bit more fighting by the brats, and not overly exciting such to boot, but otherwise it was still politics and talks. I'm not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed this episode, as I have so far enjoyed all the politics of Shiroe & Co and the people of the land, but at the same time I'm missing some good action scenes with more mature players than the kids.

    Still, the princess saved a lot. She makes such a fine pair with Crusty, even though I've no idea if anything is going to develop between them. Her plan was certainly more proactive than I anticipated, and far more insightful than anything we have seen thus far from the nobles' side. But then again, she's the one who has had relaxed (sometimes too relaxed) discussions with an adventurer. The other nobles are only relying on their own speculation and hearsay when trying to judge the adventurers. With this kind of a conclusion it's actually quite funny Shiroe, Crusty, and Michitaka attended the meeting with such seriousness; after all, they knew well enough they could promise absolutely nothing. Their only power in Akiba is to enforce certain limitations, and that's it. They can't muster anybody. But I guess that's Shiroe being Shiroe, and if they had told the nobles that from the beginning, there would have been no meetings.

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    I don't recall seeing just how strong the adventurers are. Don't think I've seen them lifting heavy stuff or something. Michitaka clearly showed just how physically superior they are by hitting the table.

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    What are the Knights of Izumo again?

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    Just some NPCs who were really strong and protected the people of the land. They were around when this was still just a game.

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    Yeah they'd be like Elite status. You'd need a good party to take one down if it were a monster.

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    HS - Episode 18


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    Finally, time for some Crusty prowess show-off time. He's overtaken Nyanta as my overall favourite character since the latter doesn't do terribly much anymore.

    Valkyrie Battle Goddess = instant popularity win.

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    Meh. I'm not a fan of her outfit. At all. It's very 90s bad anime.

    I'm really hoping we get to see Maryelle fight soon, or Crusty's 2nd in command, or Henrietta. Maryelle is the only cleric and we've never seen her fight, and the other two are both bards and must have better skills than the worthless level 25 one we've been stuck watching.

    The politics and the dialogue are great for a while, but there hasn't been any good combat since the Rescue Serara Arc. The kids are amazingly dull to watch.

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    It's kind of funny the people of the land are indeed the real humans here. The adventurers are ex-players of a game. Even if they have, to a varying degree, accepted they are stuck in a full-immersion game now, they can't ever change that fact. So, the princess, a regular human, couldn't have foreseen her speech was perfect for players hungry for a quest.

    I hope the princess will be around to see some of the fighting as well, from close distance. Since they are players we are talking about, once they get down to it, it ought to be a real massacre with no inhibitions. Thus, Crusty's "Kill them all" was the best part of the ep for me. That's what players should be all about!

    I hope the next episodes will finally have their share of action, and not only by the kids, even if the preview was ominous in that respect (by only showing the kids).

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    With how broadly this anime tries to create the rules of a new world, I´m kinda disappointed by the lack of topics such as sex or crime. You´d think that with so many different players, there´d be some with certain urges. Also, there should be some who act like criminals, and not necessarily because they´re evil per se, but because they don´t want to accept this new situation as "real" instead of the game they knew it as.

    I´d also really like to know two things:

    1.) Monsters do respawn just like the adventurers, and if I recall correctly, it is really the very same monsters that were killed. Killing monsters seems fine for inarticulate dinosaurs and such, but what about intelligent, talk-capable monsters? I feel like it´s highly unfair to just continue killing those, instead of approaching them to figure out a peaceful solution. Really, since they also respawn, they´re not that different from the adventurers.

    2.) Was it established what it takes to kill a NPC? Since the princess is about to follow onto the battlegrounds, I was wondering just how dangerous that would be. Do NPCs have a health bar and can be healed, or are they one-hit characters that behave like real human beings in the real world? Since the People from the Land do have soldiers that can fight monsters, I´d reckon they also have a health bar, but I can´t remember ever having seen one.

    The princess´ new outfit is gorgeous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    1.) Monsters do respawn just like the adventurers, and if I recall correctly, it is really the very same monsters that were killed. Killing monsters seems fine for inarticulate dinosaurs and such, but what about intelligent, talk-capable monsters? I feel like it´s highly unfair to just continue killing those, instead of approaching them to figure out a peaceful solution. Really, since they also respawn, they´re not that different from the adventurers.
    From the mage's explanation episode, and our discussion here, it seems that the vast overwhelming majority of monsters are an existence similar to adventurers that have been killed far too many times.

    The monsters are part of a world-alteration curse. Their spirits revive again and again and again, but their minds are long past eroded, far beyond the worst of the memory-loss the adventurers experience. The difference is that the monsters never had one, while an adventurer's mind used isolated from that erosion by being in the world we know...though now it is here.

    In short, there are no intelligent respawning monsters. They barely register above animals in terms of intelligence.

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    That´s the assumption for now, I guess, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    2.) Was it established what it takes to kill a NPC? Since the princess is about to follow onto the battlegrounds, I was wondering just how dangerous that would be. Do NPCs have a health bar and can be healed, or are they one-hit characters that behave like real human beings in the real world? Since the People from the Land do have soldiers that can fight monsters, I´d reckon they also have a health bar, but I can´t remember ever having seen one.
    Yeah, they have been shown to have a health bar a number of times. If you want to check, watch for example ep 11 and jump to 9:14.

    It's probably dangerous for the princess because she was assigned a personal guard of 12 players, when the actual strike force was 96. So, she got bloody 10% of the available manpower as her personal safety detail. In addition to that, apparently being lazy and cowardly doesn't level one up much, as Shiroe adviced the merchant guild dude to find equipment requiring less than level 4. So, I'd say her HP is on the low side as well.

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    Has it been established that NPCs can level up? Do they have levels? If so, is their level equal in meaning to the level of adventurers? If so, why are the People of the Land generally so weak? Something doesn´t add up here.

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    I don't know why the game / world would have different systems for different types of characters. That would be making things overly complicated. Players have levels and monsters have totally comparable levels (obviously). I don't really see why NPCs wouldn't have similar levels since we do know they can kick ass: Izumo knights were said to have been as tough as expensive old boots. When Crusty was amusing himself by fighting the knights back at the castle, he said they were good (even though he was obviously lying when he said he had to make an effort to beat them).

    Regular NPCs, aside from some exceptions and obviously villains, aren't generally that tough in games. They are just people living ordinary lives, not adventurers who wander the wilds every day seeking monsters or scoundrels to beat. It wouldn't make any sense for them to be tough. Back when Elder Tale was just a game, there were thousands upon thousands of players taking care of every problem, and occasionally the named knights appeared as well. The NPCs didn't need to do anything to level up.

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    They don't quite follow the traditional class rules either. The mage obviously was more powerful and versatile with magic than any adventurer. He was bringing up illusionary screens and infographics without even an incantation. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who cast the world-class magic that caused The Apocalypse, dragging adventurer's psyche into this world.

    Perhaps Lenessia is more capable individually than we are led to believe...for a Level 4 equivalent. They are foreshadowing heavily that she will be attacked or separated from her guards.

    I'm still of the mind that this isn't a game anymore, but that they've transcended dimensions to this parallel world.

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