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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    You think the ghost isn't actually memories and the old personality being restored, but rather the new Banri trying to recreate the original one based on the bits and pieces he has been learning and even more so imagining? I'd consider that quite a stretch. Although psychologically speaking the more he tries to deny it and tell himself the old one doesn't matter, the more he's actually thinking about it, which might even restore genuine memories.
    I think Ghost-Banri actually possessed him for a sec.

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    So, the original Banri exists within the new one, safe and sound, but is locked in some kind of coma, while the new Banri without any memories is in control? But now that control is cracking?

    That's quite strange, indeed. But then again, I haven't studied medicine, so I wouldn't know if such things happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    So, the original Banri exists within the new one, safe and sound, but is locked in some kind of coma, while the new Banri without any memories is in control? But now that control is cracking?

    That's quite strange, indeed. But then again, I haven't studied medicine, so I wouldn't know if such things happen.
    Ghost-Banri got knocked out of Banri. He's currently hanging around Banri because that's where he gets his supply of essence. Right now he managed to re-control his body for a moment before being kicked back out again. He may or may not realise what is going on. Banri should have no idea what is going on and just suffers from lapses in memory. Ghost-Banri eventually should figure out what's happening and since he's watching Banri while he's "out", he'll know everything.

    That's my idea anyway. This isn't based on medical knowledge but more on weird-anime-plot inspiration.

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    Umm... Maybe, but for the moment I'd like to think this isn't that much of a fantasy story, but rather the ghost is just symbolic for the sake of the audience or it indeed represents old memories and feelings that are slowly returning to Banri (and is real in that sense). In other words either a dramaturgic device or a depiction of the real, suppressed original personality in the damaged brain, trying to heal itself. Or a bit of both, naturally.

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    I'm going with Kraco. Banri isn't a ghost, he's a "locked-in" personality. Like a coma in that he can't control the body, but gets all the sensory information, and has access to his own memories. The same way that Tada Banri is "locked out" of his old memories.

    Though I also agree with Buff that old Banri "possessed" the body for a minute there. Tada Banri thought he fell asleep, a pretty common reaction from the more recent realistic portrayals of DID.

    It's more like split personality stuff than it is recovering lost memories or anything supernatural. They've been separated for so long they they've become separate. Old Banri implied that if he 'drifts too far,' that is, loses his focus and concentration on the present sensory information, he'll disappear and be locked in permanently. He describes himself as the "spirit" of Tada Banri, which I take to mean "the intent" of Tada Banri, like "in the spirit of...". The persona of the past Banri.

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    So why the hell did Linda just ignore it like that?

    Also, was she really telling the truth about the "No"?
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    It's hard to tell because she is such a good liar, but I would wager that she actually would have answered "yes" to wuss Banri, judging solely from the flashback where she felt looked absolutely gutted after finding out he had heard every word. Maybe she really means the "no" toward the new Banri, who isn't nearly as needy or lacking in confidence.

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    I got totally caught up in the discussion about Banri and forgot about the scene with Oka and her natural enemy, a prideful and selfishly obsessive Koko. Perhaps Koko instinctually recognized that Oka uses her tears and true, less cheerful personality as weapons to ensnare the hearts of men.
    (As if Koko is any different...)
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    Episode 9 - HS






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    Well, this is getting interesting, even if not necessarily all positively in my opinion. Still, a really long chunk of the episode was about cheating and eternal faithfulness, which is pretty funny considering Banri's current situation. Of course the new Banri is as oblivious as always, but if the old Banri is indeed regaining the body back, he would have a splendid opportunity to prove to the whole world just how insensitive he is by running to Linda. Not that he really would have any best options available, though. He's not really responsible for the new Banri's deeds and interests, but they are still the same person. Since no memories seem to be leaking to the new Banri, it looks like a genuine split personality case. A bit unfair, though, with the old Banri seeing everything the new Banri does but not vice versa. On the other hand that leaves the old one no excuse to simply ignore the new Banri's life.

    This will leave Linda in an equally tight spot. I'm sure she wouldn't particularly enjoy robbing Kouko's man, especially when she's reminded of such antics every time she sees her brother. But if old Banri comes back, he won't love Kouko, so it would be a pretty empty affair in the long run. Kouko wasn't living her strongest moments when Banri pushed her into their relationship proclaiming his love, so maybe we will get a jolly nice boat ending if the old Banri comes back and drops Kouko like a rock to chase Linda once again. Honestly, every flashback we get of the old Banri makes him look more and more capable of performing the vilest of things all the while wearing the innocent smile of a child.

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    I don't like where this is going. Like I said earlier, shit's going to get hella messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I don't like where this is going. Like I said earlier, shit's going to get hella messy.
    Quick, someone call Yuki!

    I'm not too happy with past-Banri regaining control, even if it is temporary, but I guess he wasn't quite as much of a pussy as I thought he was. He had some good lines back then too, so we can sort of see where Banri gets it from.

    Koko doesn't deserve this heartache though. She's not sick at all, that's for sure. I don't get why he wouldn't go visit her though. Phone calls aren't enough when your girlfriend tells you she is helplessly anxious...unless they are a complete psychopath with major trust issues, but Koko isn't that kind, she's the stalker type. She was probably awake and heard everything on the balcony, when she was stopped from sneaking outside for some alone time with Banri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    She was probably awake and heard everything on the balcony, when she was stopped from sneaking outside for some alone time with Banri.
    Yep, that is definitely what happened.

    The shitty part about all this is that old-Banri doesn't give a shit about Kouko. She also has no emtional support. Linda has the rocker-senpai to cheer her up. Banri is the cheer-up person for Kouko. Mitsuru could listen, but she'd have to be really desperate before she resorts to him.

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    Messy isn't even a strong enough word, shit's about to hit the fan in a very big way.

    Kraco's right, interesting. Very interesting.

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    I for one like this development. A ghost banri trying to act normal as he tries to figure out if his control is permanent, and if it is okay to steal his life back sh ould be great comedy and drama.
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    HS - Episode 10, 11

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    I'm glad the development didn't turn out as serious and convoluted as what episode 09 suggested. I was relieved when Kouko showed up to in episode 10. The atmosphere just feels so light with her around.

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    An admitted stalker, who knows how irritating she is. Interesting to say the least.

    Is Banri going to cheat? It is no longer a matter of ghost takeovers. It seems the two (or at least the emotions) are merging into one.
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    I feel like the past few episodes haven't really build anything between Banri and Kouko. More like the opposite, even when they are together, they are drifting apart because Banri keeps thinking about Linda so much. Contrary to that, Banri and Linda seem now closer than they ever were, including the time when Banri hadn't yet lost his memories. Back then Linda clearly wasn't actively interested in Banri, or hadn't realised her feelings in other words, but after she lost Banri, it suddenly hit her what she had lost. Now she can't keep herself in check, despite some superficial efforts.

    Considering all that, nothing fancy even needs to happen between those two to make a big difference. A seemingly little step and Banri can't think of anything else anymore, seeing how he struggles even now. He's a dude with little mental fortitude and willpower. The kind of solidity we saw in the beginning of the show was forged by the harsh experience of losing his memories, forcing him to build a wall around himself. Even though he isn't concretely regaining his memories yet, it seems to me like his behavior is getting closer to what it was before the accident. That must be due to his isolation and self-proclaimed special status disappearing. When he keeps socializing with people, getting new friends and experiences, becoming just another student among others, he's not anymore a special case of emptiness but a regular person again, most of the time.

    Is he going to cheat? I reckon he already has, more or less. At the end of the day he hasn't yet got that far with Kouko, so relatively speaking he doesn't need to do anything much to get farther with Linda. The fact he's not a man enough to speak to Kouko tells something about him as well, even if he could use some fancy excuses to explain it later, if he cowardly chooses to.

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    Linda likes Kouko, Kouko likes Linda. Why not have both girls?

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    Kouko does not really like Linda. She's not fond of any girl that is overly friendly with Banri. Kouko tolerates Linda.

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    It still amuses me every time Kouko calls Oka Miss Ultrasonic.

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    Miss Ultrasonic's first line and greeting in this episode made me cringe due to pain in my eardrums.

    Her nickname is apt.
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