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    Double episode this week. 12 and 13 are out!

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    HS - Episode 12, 13

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    ROARRR!!!

    At least they explained why Ippo got punched the first two times he used the Dempsey. Both times I was raging "wtf? Wasn't he training so that it wouldn't happen? What gives?"

    I'm trying to imagine Sawamura coming back as a recurring character without his killing intent and starvation? Perhaps he'll even go vegetarian? I have no idea what to make of him after you take away the most defining aspects. Takamura's up next, right? I'm ready.

    That said, it's been aaaages since I've seen Miyata fight.

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    Damn, had teary eyes towards the end and was cheering for Sawamura. As much as he was built up as this super unfair, super brutal boxer, he never used any too cruel tricks as he did in one of his previous fights (the one Ippo and co. watched on tape). When it counted, he was using his magnificent boxing skilled, his natural talent.
    He´s kinda the Gaara of this anime. Such a poor guy, having been turned into a brutal street fighter by societal circumstances. At the end, I was thinking about how he could win, yet still grow a change of mind. Well, it didn´t happen.

    What I had really wished for, though, was one last standing up of his, after Ippo´s super dempsey roll-combo. Should have been kinda like Rock Lee, when he got up again whilst being unconcious. Hm.

    On another note, I wonder if it´s even possible to show an Ippo-fight that doesn´t end with him being totally beaten up. Guess that wouldn´t be exciting. Still lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    At least they explained why Ippo got punched the first two times he used the Dempsey. Both times I was raging "wtf? Wasn't he training so that it wouldn't happen? What gives?"
    This, though Im still angry that he didnt use it instantly. He couldnt have known for sure to live through those successful counters. Ugh,

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    The explanation was clear.
    His anti-anti-dempsey roll needed real fight tuning. And the first 2 times, the tuning was far from perfect, but allowed him to escape most of the damage.

    Then, in his beaten up state, à la Rocky, he was still able to time correctly first try the anti-anti-anti-dempsey roll............

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    When it counted, he was using his magnificent boxing skilled, his natural talent.
    You missed the parts where he elbowed Ippo's back and tried to trip him up again then, as well as clinching him when things got tough (Clinching's a weird one thing. It's legal and Ippo's done it in the past as well).

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    On another note, I wonder if it´s even possible to show an Ippo-fight that doesn´t end with him being totally beaten up. Guess that wouldn´t be exciting. Still lol
    There was a Thai fighter some time ago. It was he who first tried to counter the Dempsey. It was the first match that had Ippo declare his victory before he actually won. Ippo then broke out the Dempsey and smashed him. The coach reprimanded him for his carelessness because despite it looking like an easy victory, the counter only missed because Ippo tapped the Thai's chin earlier.

    That was an "all or nothing" type of match where Ippo came out unscathed.

    As an infighter though, I don't think you can make a match seem interesting/tense without seeing him being pounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I'm trying to imagine Sawamura coming back as a recurring character without his killing intent and starvation? Perhaps he'll even go vegetarian? I have no idea what to make of him after you take away the most defining aspects.
    He'll just do the exact same thing every other character does, hang out in the audience during Ippo's matches and make commentary.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Damn, had teary eyes towards the end and was cheering for Sawamura. As much as he was built up as this super unfair, super brutal boxer, he never used any too cruel tricks as he did in one of his previous fights (the one Ippo and co. watched on tape). When it counted, he was using his magnificent boxing skilled, his natural talent.
    Oh bullshit! He spent the entire match cheating, and you want to give him a pass because there were a couple rounds where he DIDN'T cheat? Fuck off.

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    Again, in that videotape-fight, it almost looked like Sawamura killed his opponent with his gruesome cheating-attack. He never did anything like that during his fight with Ippo. The most brutal thing he did was the elbow into Ippo´s back, but that didn´t really feel that impactful. Really, from how things had been hyped up, I expected Sawamura to go all-out-Mike-Tyson on Ippo. Instead, he gave us some real superb boxing with his bullet-fast, yet also strong punches and his pinpoint-accurate counter-style. Ippo didn´t struggle because of any tricks, he struggled because of the honest-to-god boxing skills of his opponent.

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    ugh, 90% of this episode felt like filler.

    but im curious what ippo does about his fighting style. shorten his career or coming up with a new technique?

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    HS - Episode 14


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    He'll definitely need a new technique. He's young too, so he's got the time and everything to learn one. There's no point retiring early from injury like that. At the very least, he needs to try learning something new. The Dempsey can be his fallback technique for when he really needs it. He just needs to appreciate its long term effects and really see it as a last-line attack.

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    Sooooooo boring.


    I will say one thing though, every time this series makes it seem like it's about to introduce some sort of of real life drama to Ippo's life that I'm going to hate, it gets neatly resolved immediately in a positive manner.

    I kept thinking "Oh, this guy's quitting, which means his mom's not going to have the help she needs, which means Ippo is going to have some crappy conflict between helping his mother and training or something." But nope. Resolved in 2 minutes. Awesome.

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    There's something about the improved Dempsey Ippo needs to realize:
    He's got incredible speed*timing*control*power*stamina.
    He's just too incredible to be true. But he doesn't know yet. Being able to master all of those 5 traits to those heights in a single attack means he's strong in each of these separately.
    It just means that when he realizes this, he'll be able to improve all of the weapons he can use, when and for what purpose.

    As of yet, his fights are:
    Ippo takes a pounding, quite a hard one, but he can take it (nothing on the brain MRI...)
    His body learns of the speed/control/timing of his oponent.
    He starts landing heavy body/liver blows. Not that many. But with his incredible power, it really takes a toll on his opponent who slowly loses either speed or control. Most of the time both.
    Combat drags on, Ippo slowly takes the edge thanks to his incredible stamina and the fact that his qualities remain strong even after taking a beating and a long fight.
    Then comes the Dempsey becomes effectives and he usually wins.


    With his qualities, he really could do something with the beginning of his fights.

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    I find it unlikely that those two would have become national champions with such huge weaknesses.

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    And I found it very frustrating to so both of them lose. Yeah yeah, it was a tie, but still. Those guys´ victoy-loss-record must be shit for a boxer, sigh.

    Hoping that Takamura at least wins. He´s been presented as the aggressive one for this fight, which usually means he´ll lose. Hope that doesn´t happen. Cut down that prince charming, Takamura!!

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    HS Episode 17
    HS Episode 18

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    Those punches! Feels like I just watched DBZ. :3 (Not an insult)

    I was looking down on the guy after I thought his pride took priority over his daughter's life, but then we learn that half the pay was enough to heal her anyway. That took away the emotional conflict, but also reduced the fight so a normal display of outboxing goodness, albeit an enjoyable one.

    Animation-wise, the short hooks didn't even look like they'd be in range of Miyata's face, but instead just hitting the gloves in front of them.

    The bit at the end where nobody realised Ippo was watching was pretty funny. "What? Who the fuck are y-.. HELL YEAH!!"

    What's with Maria's eyes though? Her pupils are twice the size of anyone else's and it's creepy. They'd fit right in in any of Matsumoto Leiji's works, but not here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    What's with Maria's eyes though? Her pupils are twice the size of anyone else's and it's creepy. They'd fit right in in any of Matsumoto Leiji's works, but not here.
    I know right! She had like, no white in her eyes at all! Like an alien.

    I guess "anime slanted Thaiwanese eyes" aren't compatible with "anime huge childlike pupils".

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    Damn, this new trailer for Super Smash Bros 4 for Wii U/3DS is so awesome. It feels so much like Ippo when watching Little Mac´s reveal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV82qq30Cfk

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    Now they just need to add King Hippo as Mac's rival.



    Then Eggplant Wizard as Pit's rival.

    And Simon Belmont as a guest character.

    Captain N reunion baby!

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    They´d need to add Captain N first and foremost :P

    @episode 19:

    I loved the end of this episode. The Golden Eagle might look unshaken and confident to the audience and his opponent, but he´s actually losing his composure and is just as scared as the challenger. That is something that I oh so often wish to see more of when watching any kind of show, anime or playing a game: The villain is always portrayed as perfectly cool, relaxed and perfect in skill. But that is bullcrap. Even when you´re Madara, Itachi, Hisoka, Crollo, Freezer or whoever, even when you´re super powerful, you are not invincible. You have to make proper use of your abilities, and if you fail to pay attention to the hero´s actions even for only a split second, you´re dead.
    But we rarely get to witness that sort of pressure. Because we take it for granted that villains are perfect, always.

    But damn, detached retina. I´m on my way to become an optician and that´s not funny. One "wrong" hit and Takamura could easily go blind on his right eye. Though Miyata is an asshole for waiting until minutes before the start of the fight to mention this to Ippo. Why not mention it right after getting suspicious?

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    HS - Episode 19



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    Maybe he's only come to the conclusion now after thinking about it for so long? Unlike you, he's not becoming an optician. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    They´d need to add Captain N first and foremost
    What...no. That would make it lame. It's only cool getting the real game characters together. You don't actually take anything original from that awful show.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    But we rarely get to witness that sort of pressure. Because we take it for granted that villains are perfect, always.
    That's exactly it.

    Eagle knows his plan will work, but it has to be executed flawlessly. And while he's great, he has to be perfect at every second, because one slip-up and it's gonna cost him.

    And the pressure of maintaining that perfection is costing him mentally.

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