Yeah I get what you are saying. I'm not trying to shoot jabs at any of you guys, I just think these discussions are bound to happen when the story fumbles over itself to essentially crowd please. We all know that there are almost unwritten power levels in the series placed there to make certain match ups plausible. Hell the fact that orochimaru is present for this battle and up to speed on all the goings thanks to (what is essentially spectator mode) the cursed seal is really silly. Honestly I feel we all had a certain level of respect for the story prior to what is just poor character, plot and tone progression.
In regards to the "arguing", its hard to discern some things through text. It's really just toneless conversation. We interpret it as WE read it. I would like to be the first to say I don't mean any personal attacks. I just wanna talk about manga in my down time from work :-/