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    That sounds interesting, but I think a better tact would also be to improve the power and weapons of the jaegers. I'm talking some Gundam style beam sabers, huge shields, giant laser rifles, and wrist-mounted gatling guns.


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    Saw it this weekend on Blu-Ray. I have to say, it's an excellent movie. I am surprised it did poorly in North America. I am glad it did good around the world. I hope Blu-Ray sales are way high for this movie. It deserves a sequel. The lead and Mako do not need to be romantically linked. They should just remain as friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    The lead and Mako do not need to be romantically linked. They should just remain as friends.
    This. I liked how they did not kiss at the end.
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    Sadly I think that just points to how unattractive Mako is to the general viewing public that they didn't bother with a romance (which probably made the movie better). I wonder if a hotter female costar would have led to better sales but resulted in a weaker movie for the true fans.

    Considering the subject matter and cast, it's not much surprise it didn't do so well in the US. Outside of the side characters like Dr. Geiszler, all the main characters are foreign actors.


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    I personally did not like Mako's looks or acting (excluding loli Mako), but that is not the reason I want a non-romantic development. A little deviation from the cliche is always welcome.
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    Loli Mako was unbearably cute and awesome. I thought Mako's acting was perfect for the role. I watch a lot of sports with foreign stars and the interviews they give are exactly like Mako's interactions with the other characters... awkward but real.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Considering the subject matter and cast, it's not much surprise it didn't do so well in the US. Outside of the side characters like Dr. Geiszler, all the main characters are foreign actors.
    What part of Ron Perlman isn't American? "Hannibal Chau" is a joke, he's a Jewish mobster from NYC selling alien organs to idiots who'll buy them.

    So is Clifton Collins (Gonzalez) Jr., the technician guy in the fancy shirt. Looks kinda Maori, but he's a latino actor from the US.

    Oh yeah, and so is Max Martini, the Aussie father.

    Three characters (Idris Elba, Charlie Hunnam, and Rinko Kikuchi), four if you count Charlie Day, do not an action movie make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post

    Three characters (Idris Elba, Charlie Hunnam, and Rinko Kikuchi), four if you count Charlie Day, do not an action movie make.
    Idris Elba makes any movie. He's fucking Idris Elba. It would be cool if he gets to be the next Bond.

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    The top three cast members are foreigners, and none of them are A-listers. I think it worked better for the movie, but the lack of drawing power was evident. A bigger name might have drawn more viewers but it would have distracted from the core concepts of the movie. It's like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt in pretty much any of their movies.

    Hannibal Chau is definitely a side character.

    @Carnage: he's a fine actor, but not a big Hollywood draw. I can't think of any leading roles he's had in a successful movie.


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    They really shouldn't have chosen one of the lead characters to be portrayed by an actress who can't speak a engrish.

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    You can't have a giant robot movie without some yellow flavor, especially if you want success in international (SE Asia) markets. I'm especially pleased they chose a Japanese actress to play a Japanese character and not a Korean or Chinese actress.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    You can't have a giant robot movie without some yellow flavor, especially if you want success in international (SE Asia) markets. I'm especially pleased they chose a Japanese actress to play a Japanese character and not a Korean or Chinese actress.
    That's a good point. Though I was a bit confused in the beginning because it seemed like they introduced her as "welcoming" Riley (or w.e the main character's name is) to the area, like she's from there (hong kong). But then she spoke Japanese. So I thought they f**ked up on the language. But I guess it's just an international base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lelouch View Post
    That's a good point. Though I was a bit confused in the beginning because it seemed like they introduced her as "welcoming" Riley (or w.e the main character's name is) to the area, like she's from there (hong kong). But then she spoke Japanese. So I thought they f**ked up on the language. But I guess it's just an international base.
    Yeah Hong Kong is an international kind of place, even now in real life, so it makes a good setting for the movie, plus the harbor is a good staging area on the mainland.

    One thing I didn't like about the Transformer movies was the lack of ode to the originators (Japanese). I don't recall a single yellow face or slanted eye in the whole movie.


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    Actually, I find Rinko, the actress who plays Mako, as very attractive. I just don't think they should be romantically linked in any way. It's a movie about diving and joining minds/consciences. They know everything about each other from that. A love story in a movie based on Giant Mechs fighting alien invasion would be totally wrong for a movie of this calibre.

    Personally, if there is a sequel, they definitely need to redo the mechs to make them more slim and have quick reactions and focus on improving the hydraulics for better force in physical attacks in close combat. They had like 4 different Mech versions since the start and they were all pretty much the same. Also maybe have them be solo pilot-able. How many years or decades ahead are they and they treat any technology as what we have today...

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    What? That's not how technology works, you don't just decomission something because it's a few years old, the F-16 are still being used and they are 40 years old now; shit is expensive/time consuming to build, best you can do is slowly upgrade it over time, like how they actually upgraded Gipsy Danger.
    Also Cherno was built in 2015, that's only 2 years from now, we don't even have the tech to build anything like it now or anywhere in the forseeable future (ever).

    Saying "today's tech" for a movie about giant mechs is pretty silly either way, but even so Striker's tech was way beyond any of the others which is kinda surprising since it's only 4 years older than Cherno.

    They tried to keep it as realistic as possible, that is ofcourse as realistic a movie about giant mechs fighting giant monsters can be.
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    True some technology lasts because of budget or because they satisfy their niche, but even old soldiers like the A-10 Warthog are regularly decommissioned because they become obsolete.

    I see lots of room for improvement in the jaegars, some of them retro like we saw in the movie. Moving back to nuclear powered energy supplies makes them a dual threat as a sentry as well as a walking nuke. The designers need to watch some Gundam and implement some of those weapon systems.


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    Ask anyone but the Air Fo-, I mean Chair Force how obsolete A-10s are. Nothing, and I mean nothing else can provide the level of support that the A-10 filled for forces on the ground. The Army wants them if the Air Force ditches them all.

    Everyone but the upper echelons of the AF loves the A-10:
    - It can take off on any POS runway, even the ones covered in rocks and sand.
    - It rips apart armor.
    - It takes hits (titanium bathtub).
    - It flies SLOW. That means it can really blast the shit out of something with its cannons.

    The people who don't love the A-10:
    - Believe in the romantic myth of air-to-air combat. That doesn't really happen, because missiles blow up all their runways.


    Very few people believe them to be obsolete who do actual fighting.

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    Count me in the group that loves the A-10 and would hate to see it decommissioned. My point wasn't to bash the A-10, but to show that even the most honored and venerable stalwarts of the battlefield can and will be discarded as the battlefield changes in the eyes of the military leadership and the purse-minders in Washington. I think that's what's happening with the A-10. Large scale ground warfare just isn't as common, particularly with tanks and armored vehicles that require the A-10's capabilities to fight. So it will be phased out, same as older model jaegers.


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    You guys, they don't make the old models of A-10 anymore. Every time they make a new model (with new avionics, radar, and cannon tech), they upgrade the oldest of the A-10s in use.

    Guess what the old models are called. Decommissioned.
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    Yeah but as a line they are still in service, right? The A-10 as a ground support platform I mean. Eventually though, as mentioned in the article, the entire fleet of A-10s will be decommissioned from service with the USAF.

    If the army does pick them up, as Ryllharu mentioned, they could get another 30 years of service out of them. I'm surprised the Marines don't take them. They still fly some old helos and use Vietnam era M-16s.


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