After some time, I'd place some money on that cultist head priest. She seems to have a cunning smile.
She might not be the one to infect/poison Kugel, but as the highest ranked human around, maybe striker transfered control to her when Kugel died.
That would be a more down to Earth idea.
As for the way Kugel died, either killed or not, the only result is that it served her purpose of getting her hand on Striker and reinforce the cult's tyranny (and her position)
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
That's actually supported by how, relatively, much screen time she had and also the close shots showing that cunning smile. Not to mention much of the authority indeed seemed to rest on her. If she belonged to some human faction that had an access to old knowledge, unlike Gargantia, it would be far more plausible. Thus, she would know all about what happened between Evolvers and the rest and how a chunk of humans escaped to the depths of space.Originally Posted by David75
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R.I.P. Chamber
/solute
At first I agreed with Striker's assessment that Chamber's malfunctioned by the end, but now I'm not sure of what classes as "malfunctioning" and what classes as intelligence/interpretation. It's probably the best way for Chamber to go though, because if Ledo dies later on without killing Chamber with him, Chamber also runs the risk of misinterpretation in the future. It's an inherent defect of his kind, unless he's been "raised" so well by Ledo that Ledo's values are maintained and no future human contact can "logic" their way into him.
"Stairway to Heaven".. damn that's a good name. I can't think of anything better for such a launcher.
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Yeah, I reckon Chamber as an AI had as much developmental potential as Striker, which means also as big risks. His decision was no doubt an outcome of the time they spent on Earth, even though in the past it always seemed like Chamber was a big conservative. However, in light of this decision, it's clear Chamber was learning just as much as Ledo was. Chamber also agreed with Ledo's earlier assessment that Alliance's thinking and values have no place on Earth. So, he reevaluated Ledo's position and came to the conclusion that Ledo now has the mindset to be something else than an Alliance soldier. Too bad he couldn't find a way to do the same for himself. For me this was a sad end with Chamber gone... Even though you probably are correct and Chamber himself didn't want to risk becoming another Striker.
A pretty good and solid show, but it didn't turn out awesomely memorable or otherwise exceptional. Especially this last arc felt sort of stock writing compared to the beginning when everything was fresh and also the conclusion of the whalesquid arc.
Chamber confirmed for best character of this 2013 season.
Ending reminded me of the Iron Giant.
Episode 14 OVA - Nubles-C.U.T.E
I was somewhat divided between wanting to see Ledo & Amy as a couple after the series or something within the series with Chamber still alive. That naturally also meant whatever it ended up being, I wouldn't be unhappy.
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As expected, it was the Ledo & Chamber combo of ultimate ignorance and far-fetched assumptions that granted this ova the comedy. "Did the ghosts escape too?" was the perfect closing remark to this incident.
I guess this ova was like the show itself in a miniature form: An entertaining watch but not anything memorable.
[UTW-Vivid] Gargantia Ova 2
Was pretty interesting to see Kugel's side of the story.
Just watched the 13 episodes of the series, and quite enjoyed it. I thought the very beginning was very unappealing and boring, but once the setting changed it became interesting. In particular episode 2 was great. The rest was OK, a bit disjointed, but it had some interesting portions. It would've been nice if the series was about 24 episodes long, as it is there wasn't much time to really identify with any one character, not much screen time to be had except for Ledo and Chamber.
In all it it was very much worth watching.
Will see about watching the two OVAs tonight.
I found the opposite, that the build-up was better than the outcome. Expectations came to play perhaps.
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Very beginning = first 5 minutes or so of the series.
I wanted this to stay more slice of life instead of delving too much into serious stuff. Seeing Ledo adapt to life on Earth was the most interesting part for me. All the drama about splitting the fleet and that blonde dude was just trite.
I did like the squid human revelation though.
Peace.
Personally didn't care much for the slice of life aspects, though I enjoyed the aspect of Ledo adapting to Earth as you did. I just didn't care much for it as slice of life of it, but I indeed wanted to see more about life on Earth and get involved a bit into a more political drama meeting other fleets, etc. seeing more of the world. As it was, the setting felt very small instead of expansive.
In any case, watched the two OVAS, episodes 14 and 15.
Didn't care much for episode 14, but I really enjoyed episode 15 with Kugel's story on Earth. It was interesting to see how in the very beginning he's actually that much more ethical and moral than Ledo, even how he embraced since early on how his Alliance's methods don't apply on Earth, and how certainly events altered in his thinking in a complete 180.
Meguru Kouro, Haruka OVA - 01 - Vivid
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A rather excellent ova, as far as Gargantia goes. This felt better than some of the latter eps of the show. The plot was quite solid so far, and I was never bored despite the length of 50 mins. Of course Chamber only in flashbacks was very sad, but it couldn't be helped. At least those flashbacks were good. Amy and Ledo seem quite official now.
The one thing I didn't like appeared right at the end, with the revelation the girl is actually a Machine Caliber pilot and has the unit in perfect condition. It feels so wrong that somebody else has a mecha and Ledo is without Chamber. It's naturally a part of the story, but it still feels so wrong. How much more is he going to miss Chamber when he sees somebody else fly a Machine Caliber? Although hers looked different, like an old model?
There weren't always two squirrels, were there?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
They got the other one from Kugel's fleet. Actually I'm surprised there aren't already 10 squirrels, if you know what I mean.
There will be soon. You saw how they ran off together.
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That Machine Caliber seems to be an old model with buggy software. My guess is Striker found it while their fleet was salvaging some ruins.
And for some reason, I think the memento communicator Ledo keeps on himself at all times will play a key role sometime down the line.
Like it still keeps most, if not all, of chambers routines/AI and will be able to hack into that older mech thanks to the buggy software it has.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Hmm... You might be right, indeed, about the girl. I was thinking the new girl was also an accidental exile from space like Ledo and Kugel, only flying an old model, but thinking about it, she's too young and too ignorant, even if some of it was acted. So, yeah, the girl likely isn't a real pilot like Ledo. Somehow she is qualified to communicate with the machine caliber, though. The mecha is still from space, however, since it's speaking the space human language Ledo only knew originally. This mecha apparently is too stupid to speak the Earthling language, even if it can understand it. I guess it got to Earth the same way Ledo, Chamber, Kugel, and Striker did, only much earlier at some point. The pilot might have died in the process or simply died of old age later.
I don't think it's buggy, though, like you said. Nor do I think Striker (or Kugel) necessarily found it. In fact it could be they never knew of its existence. Even now the girl is keeping it hidden. She might have kept it powered down the whole time Kugel/Striker was in power. Now she was gauging Ledo to see if he's similar to Kugel or a decent human. In any case she obviously needs him to live, considering she was the first one to dive to save him. No idea what her fancy plan might be. It's possible the old mecha might be possible to upgrade somewhat with the cockpit from Chamber+the communicator.
Maybe she can't fly the mecha even if she wanted. That would please me. Considering its poor communication skills, it might have less fancy automation as well.
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