1st Series Movie Remake Trailer
Note: Thread comments may contain comparisons between the movie version of Nanoha and the original run, along with other Nanoha material. Readers should assume spoilers regarding the Nanoha universe in general.
1st Series Movie Remake Trailer
Note: Thread comments may contain comparisons between the movie version of Nanoha and the original run, along with other Nanoha material. Readers should assume spoilers regarding the Nanoha universe in general.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Thu, 03-21-2013 at 06:05 AM. Reason: Added note.
Heh, the whole movie looks like the climax of StrikerS when Nanoha blasts Vivio full force. Awesome. Nanoha's barrier jacket has mega man bracers though. It looks like they are going to put a bit more emphasis on the Fate/Prescia interaction too.
I'm also going to steal this from a related youtube video comment:
"I want to be...your friend."
The most terrifying words ever spoken in anime.
Raising Heart now has a trigger as well. I thought that was added until the cartridge system.
Doesn't look bad. The beginning of the glorious story of child labour and friendship beams.
Awesome battles. I'm not sure but did this have more detail on Fate's past and back story than the first season did? It feels really fleshed out. That's about all there is to the movie.
Starlight Breaker always sends chills down my spine.
Peace.
The one and only thing that bothered me about this movie was that Nanoha's magical girl learning process was much easier in this movie and consequently, I'd say, her initial power difference with Fate looked much smaller. Even the time when she did lose was almost made to look like she didn't even try to put up a fight at all.
Fate was fully trained already when this story began, Nanoha hardly knew what a mage is. While Nanoha is the ace of aces, this still made Fate look unnecessarily weak. And made me even pity Teana of the future who was trying to convince herself that genetics isn't the only thing making a great mage.
I'm happy the number of henshin scenes was kept to minimum. And that Chrono didn't get one.
If I recall correctly there was some talk about the studio changing the device voices. I'm happy that didn't happen so that I could retain my old C&C vibes from them.
Fate still clobbered Nanoha the entire time. The only time Nanoha was able to get the upper hand was when in the final part of the final battle after she was able to withstand Fate's barrage. For the most part, Fate looked like she was schooling Nanoha. Fate also said that she was going easy on Nanoha the first few encounters.
Fate didn't look weak to me at all. She looked awesome when she dodged the boomerang shot without looking by simply tilting her head. Even Raising Heart told Nanoha that Fate is more advanced than her during the final battle. The only reason Nanoha won is because Starlight Breaker is such an imbalanced and absolutely awesome move. It doesn't even require the user to use (a lot of) their own magic so you can use it even when almost empty. It truly is the best finisher.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Wed, 12-01-2010 at 03:14 AM.
Peace.
I'm not referring to the last encounter at all because that was supposed to be the point where Nanoha already kicks more ass than Fate. I'm actually happy that fight looked as good as did. But in the first fight, like I said, it looked like Nanoha just tried to stay unharmed to talk to Fate. In the second fight Fate was hardly in any better condition than Nanoha but apparently had more willpower to go and seize the jewel (no wonder since she actually needed it for something, unlike Nanoha who was collecting them for a ferret not knowing what is even going to happen to them afterwards). After that even Chrono seemed to kick Fate's ass.
Well, I'm a hopeless Fate fan so there's really nothing you can say to convince me, haha.
Heh, I figured it would have something to do with Fate or a comparison about her, and when you said I might not notice it, I was convinced it was about Fate. I'm as much of a Nanoha fan as you are a Fate fan.
Nanoha was always remarkable not because of her rapid development (which in the original series TSAB crew also comment on when she created Starlight Breaker), but solely because of her absurd power. She's a beast of a magical girl. Even now in all the spinoffs, her capacity is only matched by Hayate. She isn't jokingly/lovingly nicknamed "The White Devil" because she's supposed to be weaker than most. Yuuno commented with amazement that she was a bombardment type when she shot the monsters. Their kind must be pretty rare on his planet, and probably indicates just how much power Nanoha has right from the start.
To be fair, Nanoha also developed her skills quite rapidly in the original series. She taught herself beam attacks by the second episode, met Fate on the fourth, and was a peer by the time they clashed in the city. That was shown by the clash of their devices in both the movie and the series. Fate wins in both, but it displays that Nanoha is already close behind. Nanoha trained in the park and by episode eleven, was blasting away with the best. She outclasses everyone quickly, she always has.
In the movie, she has the added advantage of Raising Heart being a bit smarter than it was in the first season, and image training during class instead of only after school. They made her device more like the tweaking it got from the TSAB in A's through StrikerS. Raising Heart was a bit simpler in the original.
I'm not so certain that some of the most powerful mages being born on Earth is a coincidence.
Woot! Finally I know somewhat of the story of the first season. I always thought the idea of the Nanoha franchise sounded cool but couldn't motivate myself through the early episodes of season 1 and shelved it before Fate was even introduced. Watching a 2 hour movie was right up my alley though and I think it was awesome. I did feel like I was missing a bit of the training grind but a montage and some imagination is enough to deal with that. She really did give Fate a massive friendship beam to the face though and that was probably my favorite part of the whole movie. Honorable mention goes to Precia's absurd sexy villain outfit that she apparently started wearing for no reason. I look forward to the season 2 movie but now that I'm past the initial training stages I think I'll give the TV version another shot.
There is only one lingering thing that bothers me about the movie.
There was that one scene where Nanoha said she "understood now" and what she wanted to talk to Fate about, and it flashed to her crying on the couch, and crying in her bedroom. But there was another bed with two wreaths over it. It's a pain to find, but it is around the 59-60 minute mark.
They never explained it, I don't remember it from the original series, and I don't see any connection to it. This isn't Triangle Heart 3, all of her family is alive and well (Kyouya, Miyuki, her mother and father).
I wonder if the movie canon has Nanoha once having a second sister...
Stranger still, it looks like the cellphone on the nightstand (59:50) is the same one she is using now, so it probably wasn't a twin, but an older sister.
edit: I also liked the small touches from the original series, like Nanoha being slightly horrified that Lindy puts sugar and milk into her green tea when they first meet aboard the TSAB ship. Or the part where she's shocked that Yuuno is not really a ferret.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Wed, 12-01-2010 at 06:56 PM. Reason: added timestamps and more
Any possible romantic development (even hints of it) between Yuuno and Nanoha was almost thrown away in the movie. This seemed lathered with yuri vibes, more so than the series (IIRC), not that I mind.
Peace.
I might wait for a better release, or I can watch my Limited Edition BD that came with posters, calendars, cells and whatnot.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Since it was made all but official in Strikers, I guess they adjusted even the past a little.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Though the real reason might have been the far more unromantic lack of time. Nanoha and Fate's relationship was the most important focus of this period, everything else needed to give in a little. I'm satisfied they did find some minutes for her mundane friends, though, making her look just as normal a kid as she was (aside from the huge latent potential).
Finally watched. Awesome from beginning to end. I loved the expansion of Fate's past, but I'm also a little dissapointed we didn't dwell on that scene from Nanoha's past.
Okay, watched.
Too right. Starlight Breaker is simply NOT FAIR!!
I thought that was a nice addition (adding "training mode" to the original "voice command only" Raising Heart") to speed up Nanoha's training 9along with the image training) so it didn't seem like she magically got stronger in such a small amount of time.
I think I remember that from the original series, but I can't say for sure. I'm very good at fabricating my own memories.
I noticed they changed Nanoha's ribbon from pink to white in this one (her school uniform one). Didn't really matter either way though. I had a bit more fun noticing what was different between the two tellings than what was the same, like the new attacks they gave Fate. (Zeus-style bolt/beam FTW!! That so should have wasted Nanoha more)edit: I also liked the small touches from the original series, like Nanoha being slightly horrified that Lindy puts sugar and milk into her green tea when they first meet aboard the TSAB ship. Or the part where she's shocked that Yuuno is not really a ferret.
My main issue with the movie was how exactly did Alicia die? The building was completely intact, and even the kittendog(apparently it's a kitten) survived - so she got done in by looking at it? Even Precia herself survived, and she was right where it happened.
I'm looking forward to the next movie editions, though I'm curious to see how StrikerS will get executed. There's a ton of characters in there, so they'll be hard pressed to please all their fans in such a short movie length.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Fri, 12-17-2010 at 04:48 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Radiation. Some sort of magical radiation no doubt considering the location. Apparently harmful to mainly humans, maybe only humans with magical capabilities. Precia herself was a powerful mage and there might have been additional shieldings in place as well, explaining her survival. Or she just teleported out in time.
I don't really consider that an issue at all. I have handled enough radioactive material myself to accept such plot elements...
Never underestimate the White Devil. Never. Nanoha can take the punishment, and she will always overpower Fate. Nanoha is a bombardment type. Bombardment types are not glass canons like in every other series; they're the howitzers. They're both Aerial Mages, they both have a huge magical output (Nanoha moreso), but Nanoha is stronger at long range blasts.Too right. Starlight Breaker is simply NOT FAIR!!
I noticed they changed Nanoha's ribbon from pink to white in this one (her school uniform one). Didn't really matter either way though. I had a bit more fun noticing what was different between the two tellings than what was the same, like the new attacks they gave Fate. (Zeus-style bolt/beam FTW!! That so should have wasted Nanoha more)
Fate isn't the type of mage who can compete with Nanoha's type. She can destroy Nanoha in close combat, but when she tries to go for the longer range, long casting time finishers, she just can't compete.
Like Raising Heart said, they beat Fate with superior tactics. Nanoha, Raising Heart and Yuuno knew Nanoha's strengths, and developed them fiercely. Fate didn't fight the way she beat Nanoha earlier. She should have closed in and pressed her hard. She fought poorly, and Nanoha capitalized on it. Everyone in the franchise underestimates how much output Nanoha can produce and her range.
Earth-born mages are just better. Probably because they are so rare.
Looked like an unspecified kind of radiation (Neutron, hawking, who knows) to me. They were working on a reactor. There wasn't a scratch on the cat, nor was there any on Alicia. More importantly, there was no damage to the buildings. The rescue team was wearing hazmat suits. It looked like a magical explosion, but that's not necessarily the case.My main issue with the movie was how exactly did Alicia die? The building was completely intact, and even the kittendog(apparently it's a kitten) survived - so she got done in by looking at it? Even Precia herself survived, and she was right where it happened.
Precia and the rest of the researchers no doubt had a shielded area or safe room in the facility for that kind of emergency. Any facility of that kind should have one.
edit: spent so long on the first part that Kraco beat me to the second part!
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