Great fight so far. Itachi never seizes to amaze me. Seems like Naruto is in deep shit, though..
Awesome stuff. I was curious to know what that crow was all about. Didn't expect this.
So Nagato used his Allmighty Push on Amaterasu, huh? It's funny how everyone just throws their techniques around. Makes them seem ordinairy and powerless like Naruto's Sharingan.
Can't wait to see what else Itachi's got in store for us.
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FUCKING AMAZING!!
Couple of nagging questions I had got answered in this episode.
First being that I was originally annoyed that Shisui's eyes had a unique power without being Mangekyou. Turns out Shisui DID have the Mangekyou. Also weird that he's apparently not dead. If Shisui is alive, how did Itachi get his Mangekyou?
Second was "Can Nagato use all his Rinnegan powers without having a bunch of Pains?" Apparently, the answer is yes, cause he used at least 4 of them in this episode.
The last question obviously was "What was the deal with that crow?" and the answer was more awesome than I ever could have imagined. Itachi put a Mangekyou inside Naruto to brainwash his own brother if he ever used his eyes on Naruto? And instead it ends up doing something even more awesome, accidentally making Itachi a real character in this series again, hopefully.
The question I have now is, can Kabuto simply release Itachi now that he's no longer under his control, or is Itachi free to just do whatever he wants now?
So now, Naruto is in possession of an awesome Mangekyou eye that can't do anything for 10 years. Obviously, he needs to give that shit to Kakashi so he can get himself an EMS and stop going blind!
I do feel like it's a slight plot hole that both of Shisui's eyes do the exact same thing. Every other Mangekyou user has had different powers in each eye.
So Pain absorbs a bunch of Tailed Beast chakra and it fixes his body. Why didn't he do that back when he was still alive? He had access to tons of Jinchuuriki.
I sure hope he can't. Not because I'd be a fan of any resurrected characters (though Itachi is a close call), but because so far the bloody resurrection haxor technique has shown too few flaws compared to the benefits. It'd be about the time for Kabuto to start looking behind his shoulder. Since he's an Oro copycat, he should be just as afraid and envious of sharingan as Oro was.
i am not understanding this 10 year thing. i thought the crow was used to free itachi. and now that power/crow/eye is gone. or are you saying the eye is freed up now and can go to whoever basically. but whats this 10 year thing?So now, Naruto is in possession of an awesome Mangekyou eye that can't do anything for 10 years
Shisui's Mangekyou power (Kotoamatsukami) is only usable once every 10 years unless the user also has the 1st Hokage's cells(which lowers the reuse time to, like, a day).
This was stated before by Danzou. And now restated by Itachi.
I was just saying how, since the Mangekyou power is unusable for the next 10 years, fixing Kakashi's eyesight is the best use that eye has now. Unless you're going to give it to someone who has the 1st's Cells, like Yamato.
On a completely unrelated note, Shusui's Mangekyou is the first one they've shown that's 4 sided instead of 3.
I'm guessing that for whatever reason, zombie eyes are no good for transplanting. Otherwise Kabuto would have just taken Zombie Itachi's eyes.
The thing I'm hoping happens now that Itachi is free is, if he doesn't have to sacrifice himself to defeat Nagato, then I want him to come into contact with Sasuke, and tell him what an R-tard he is.
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Lol. Than Sasuke would be like "whatever man, you're dead anyway".
I wonder if that eye would work on a living person, being Edo Tensei-fied. I'm guessing the eye would work assuming living and resurrected bodyparts go together and as long as he keeps the jutsu active. It'd prolly take up alot of chakra though and when it runs out, he'd have sacrificed his own for naught.I'm guessing that for whatever reason, zombie eyes are no good for transplanting. Otherwise Kabuto would have just taken Zombie Itachi's eyes.
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Well sure. Having an immortal Hokage probably has all sorts of advantages.
I mean the non-Zombie version of Itachi. He had tremendous skill, wisdom and the ability to give everything for his convictions. If he had lived on I'm sure he would have eclipsed Madara for all his accomplishments, or at least be an equal.
All true, but the one thing he seems to be missing is leadership qualities.
And I kind of call the wisdom part into question. Yeah, he has a lot of tricky plots going, but the goal of those plots was to get Sasuke to grow up a certain way, and due to the overly complicated and duplicitous nature of those plots, he's managed to achieve the exact opposite of what he intended.
Fair point. I would say it is something he could overcome and develop from though. Itachi from a young age was made to do things and live a life that was not only incredibly difficult emotionally but twisted. He was what, same age as Naruto and co are now perhapse a year or two older, when he had to slaughter his entire clan? How many people his age have had to do something like that yet not lose their mind? He was shunted in to the world of Anbu, grew up during a ninja war, endure the attack of the Kyuubi and then became an S-Rank criminal on the orders of the village hierarchy; he never got time to stablise himself and think in a stress free environment and despite all this he never showed even a fraction of the emo tendencies every other character that age has show.
Yes that's the ninja world and Madara and his brother spent their entire lives in constant battle, but it was still within the social norms of their particular clan. I mean in terms of horror only Sasuke actually could say comes close, having seen your parents slaughtered by your older brother and then mocked by him. But then he has become totally screwed up.
And you could make a similar argument about Sandaime with Orochimaru; yet no one would be better than him to be Hokage when he was around and when Tobirama died first and then Minato.
Thanks to a guy called Madara, that is. Otherwise, he did pretty damn well all these years I'd say.Originally Posted by DE
And he even put the crow in as a safeguard for when his plan does fail. He used the eye on himself this episode, but I don't think anybody can really plan on coming back from the dead.
As for leadership, I'm not sure how that could have turned out. The Uchiha were dead on taking over the village, so it's no wonder they dislike a Hokage-serving ANBU like Itachi. I would say that due to his skill and intelligence he would have been revered as a Hokage (much like Kakashi would have been), even if he wasn't as charismatic as Naruto.
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I don't.
If Itachi's end goal was to have Sasuke live a happy fulfilled life as a respected member of the Hidden Leaf, then Phase 1 of his plan: Instill into him a lifelong all-consuming hatred, was a retarded way to start.
I realize the thinking behind it was "I'll take all of Sasuke's hatred onto myself so he doesn't have to hate anyone else." But the problem with taking an 8-year old and making vengeance his entire existence is that, once he's obtained that vengeance, he doesn't know how to be anything else.
Itachi said it himself. "Sasuke is still naive. He can easily be died any color." Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time trying to manipulate and deceive his brother into turning out the way he wanted, his little brother wouldn't have been so easy for Madara to manipulate.
And his final fail-safe measure is "I'll just fucking mind control him into being the way I want." which doesn't even end up getting used on the right person.
But how else could he have done it?Originally Posted by DE
You don't exactly tell an 8-year-old that:
1) Yes, I killed every Uchiha but don't hate me, because
2) The Hokage ordered it to be done since we're all rebellious as shit.
The original fail-proof plan was to kill everybody including Sasuke. If Itachi failed at something, it was that he failed to kill his brother, leaving a seed of hatred to grow into a national threat. (said threat wasn't forseen because no one should have known about it)
Judging from Itachi's reactions this episode, Madara was lying when he said Itachi didn't carry out the task alone. Itachi was carrying out the task alone, which was why he didn't expect Madara to know anything about him. (He even safeguarded against that by having Sasuke launch Amaterasu at Madara when Madara tried to do something to him. In the end, we never found out how Madara escaped death from that)
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