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    I sure hope the Dragon Princess continues to harass him instead of falling for the merchant or something. While I'm not terribly fond of her, I do like seeing that sparky, fire-breathing effect.

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    Now that lady knight has been defeated, the dragon princess will become new love rival for Maou. So I think she will be hounding Yuusha for a while fear not.

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    My guess is that Maou is extremely powerful, just by being able to keep former Maou's spirit traped in their tooms.
    And perhaps her power is so strong that it destroys everything in such a scale she'd rather not use her powers at all. I would even guess that her powers come at the price of losing her reason, transforming her in a real demon of destruction.

    Why that guess?
    Because we've never seen her use any powers. The mind sharing power in the first episode was it seems coming from a device.
    Also because she's so clever that being very powerful and clever at the same time, would be far too much for any story. Even if by some plot twist she's so gifted she decides to actually change the world without doing it through sheer power.

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    Isn't she a hundred years old? If there's magic she could have learned, surely she would have learned some, if only to kill time... Obviously she's keen on studying, seeing how much she knows and furthermore can even adapt, so it's not just book knowledge. Magic should be no different, including combat magic.

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    Now I really want to see what Maou does with the demon kings. (and it pisses me off more that I don't think they'll actually show it).

    Does she battle them and beat them into submission for a while, or does she siphon away their power into herself while trying to maintain reason to walk out as herself again?

    Perhaps the most interesting question (at least for myself), is whether the previous demon kings were all angry mofos, and whether Maou herself will become another power that could destroy the world when she inevitably dies? I doubt the story would cover this part at all.

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    I would look to the OP. I'll bet they'll show the aftermath, if not the ceremony itself. They've shown everything else so far.

    I'm most curious about why the mage has three personalities, or so it seems.

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    Episode 9 - HS





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    This episode revived my hope that this show might yet turn out to be worth some of the hype. The trading in this show has been vastly inferior to Spice & Wolf, the military side has been... well, let's say it has left much to be desired, if I wanted to avoid the word pitiful. However, this ep had such a nice long scene of a speech that I felt like I was watching one of Chihayafuru's matches on the edge of my chair. I guess you can't have too many of those in a show, but this was sorely needed. Even the scene of Older Sister Maid crying and lamenting her own powerlessness contributed greatly in retrospect, even though I paid it little attention when it happened. However, clearly the most impressive aspect of it was how she borrowed Head Maid's insects and mixed it with her own grim experiences, hopes, wishes, fears, and desires. A single speech and she changed the whole country, possibly the whole continent. I'm so satisfied with this episode that I wouldn't change anything in it.

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    From the beginning, hero's plan was flawed from the fact the girl would be dead long before they departed the city...
    So the stones and even the will to behead her were no surprises.

    I guess we'll now have a war between central countries and winter contry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    From the beginning, hero's plan was flawed from the fact the girl would be dead long before they departed the city...
    So the stones and even the will to behead her were no surprises.
    I'm not so sure. I think the messenger only wanted her to stoned and beheaded right then and there after she had converted all the people. Otherwise I think they intended to drag her to the capital alive, like he said earlier, and then torture her and whatnot. Hero's original plan, agfer all, didn't include any world changing speeches.

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I guess we'll now have a war between central countries and winter contry?
    Who knows. It's pretty clear the church is nothing but a tool for the central countries, so despite all speak of heretics, this ended up as nothing but a failed political move. I guess a war is a possibility, but let's not forget the central countries in fact aren't in a habit of warring; they like to extort the poorer countries to do the fighting in their stead. They would need to get down from their high horses to be able to fight seriously against the battle scarred nations.

    Maybe we will see a protestant reformation first, a war later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    I guess we'll now have a war between central countries and winter contry?
    I wouldn't be so sure about that. The church has a wide influence, but the central nations are nations in their own right as well. Given that there's one successful "rebellion" by the Winter Country, the other ones might take the opportunity (or at least consider it) to rid themselves of the Church's influence.

    You've also got the merchant reorgainising things back home as well, so there may well be less bloodshed than expected.

    There was a rather lengthy finishing segment after the ED this time (in case anyone missed it). The ominous monologue suggests that Maou has attempted to "save the world with the hero" many times in the past, most likely through various incarnations. Her speech gives the impression that she's an undying motherly spirit who wishes for world peace, but her presence somehow causes destruction (whether it be her demonic nationality that forces humans to fight demons, or her demonic powers which tears up the land and causes disasters upon the earth).

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    Tomatsu Haruka, you are now my favorite VA. That was one hell of performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I guess a war is a possibility, but let's not forget the central countries in fact aren't in a habit of warring; they like to extort the poorer countries to do the fighting in their stead. They would need to get down from their high horses to be able to fight seriously against the battle scarred nations.

    Maybe we will see a protestant reformation first, a war later...
    Not only are they out of practice, they are terrible at fighting. The military of the central nations is stuffed with the sons of nobles, used to only the cushiest of guard duty. When faced with the prospect of combat, they tend to desert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    There was a rather lengthy finishing segment after the ED this time (in case anyone missed it). The ominous monologue suggests that Maou has attempted to "save the world with the hero" many times in the past, most likely through various incarnations. Her speech gives the impression that she's an undying motherly spirit who wishes for world peace, but her presence somehow causes destruction (whether it be her demonic nationality that forces humans to fight demons, or her demonic powers which tears up the land and causes disasters upon the earth).
    That wasn't Maou. That was the Spirit of Light herself. She was lamenting that her existence is what led to the world being torn asunder. Her name used for Crusades, her name used to begin the war between humans and the demons in the first place. She sees the birth and death of everyone on all sides, and it hurts her. She feels pain from the death of each one. It pains her to see them using her as a reason to kill each other, when her true desire is the protection and well being of all.

    The segment was included to make it clear that coming conflict is not a religious war. It is a political one. The Central Church is misusing the Spirit of Light's name to enact their own will on the people. Lady Knight's view of the Spirit is the correct one, she wants peace and prosperity.

    The flashbacks of Maou were a bit misleading. Or perhaps she is influencing Maou a bit, allowing her to override the will of destruction from the preceding demon lords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    The segment was included to make it clear that coming conflict is not a religious war. It is a political one. The Central Church is misusing the Spirit of Light's name to enact their own will on the people. Lady Knight's view of the Spirit is the correct one, she wants peace and prosperity.
    For now I'm more willing to believe the Central Church is no Vatican, but rather it's deeply under the influence of the politics of the central nations. Or alternatively the politics of the nations and the church are one and the same. They simply tried to use religion to get rid of Crimson Scholar because using foreign politics directly would have backfired far more readily considering the new king isn't anymore bowing down so deeply in front of them and the political/economic dependency is lessening fast anyway. With the widening gap in politics and economics, religion was the one fully shared thing they thought they could easily rely on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Tomatsu Haruka, you are now my favorite VA. That was one hell of performance.

    Not only are they out of practice, they are terrible at fighting. The military of the central nations is stuffed with the sons of nobles, used to only the cushiest of guard duty. When faced with the prospect of combat, they tend to desert.

    That wasn't Maou. That was the Spirit of Light herself. She was lamenting that her existence is what led to the world being torn asunder. Her name used for Crusades, her name used to begin the war between humans and the demons in the first place. She sees the birth and death of everyone on all sides, and it hurts her. She feels pain from the death of each one. It pains her to see them using her as a reason to kill each other, when her true desire is the protection and well being of all.

    The segment was included to make it clear that coming conflict is not a religious war. It is a political one. The Central Church is misusing the Spirit of Light's name to enact their own will on the people. Lady Knight's view of the Spirit is the correct one, she wants peace and prosperity.

    The flashbacks of Maou were a bit misleading. Or perhaps she is influencing Maou a bit, allowing her to override the will of destruction from the preceding demon lords.
    But if the Spirit is talking instead of Maou, then what business does she have with stroking black hair, wishing for world peace with him and also wondering what she'd say when she meets "him" again?

    I think it's definitely Maou speaking - or at least the existence that we know as Maou. That line of thinking lead to my reincarnation theory. Combining the two together.. perhaps Maou is the living incarnation of the Spirit of Light?

    When Maou met Hero, she said she was waiting for him. That sense of "destiny" would make more sense if it's some sort of tradition or role that's been handed down to her (or she knows intuitively) due to her reincarnated, spiritual nature.


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    Apparently the next episode will convince us that this show is about more than just useless flesh.

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    Well the Maou was waiting for the Hero because that's what always happened. The Hero sets out to kill the Demon King and considering the power of a Hero they would always make it pretty far. She just wanted to walk a different path from all the other demons kings ( as far as I know )

    But I found it intriguing that the Spirit of Light was green and that it slowly zoomed out to show the sun in the demon world. So would that mean that the Spirit is their Sun?

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    HorribleSubs:
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    The war spiced things up greatly and made these last 3 episodes the best in the series (aside from the slave speech I suppose.. along with the Woman Knight fanservice parts). The action speaks for itself, while the economy side was also carried a sense of purpose and tension thanks to the urgency sparked by the war. Ironically, but perhaps not surprisingly these happened while Maou was incapacitated. The main problems were solved by humans utilising their knowledge, be it economic manipulation or arts of war. It feels a lot more real.

    <3 younger Maou, Head Maid and dragon princess even more now (Them horns!!! :3) I rather approve of the Merchant/Dragon Princess pairing. They're both snappy and smart enough that one side doesn't eat the other up (like what would have happened if Hero was paired instead).

    Talking about Hero.. WTF?! Teleportation was a useful secondary skill, but Wide Area Thunderbolt? Plasma Annihilator? That guy's more OP than I thought. He doesn't even need his sword skills. The world's lucky he was born a Hero and not a Demon King. Maou's also lucky Hero decided to visit the Demon Lair in person instead of blasting it from afar.

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    I agree with Buff.
    Also, I think I fell in love with Soldier, he is like vanilla ice cream, simple but adorable.

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    There are only two things I'm really left wondering. First, what the hell is up with Mage? She has split personalities, or maybe even three people in one body, and she describes herself as a backup. Backup to whom? Hero, Maou, or Light Spirit? The second is what kind of demon Maou really is, or if she is a demon at all. Head Maid is pretty obvious, she's some kind of necromancer. But Maou doesn't really seem to have any powers at all, and it isn't clear that the powers she does possess (long life, red aura attacks) are anything but inherited from the demon lord grave. I'm starting to wonder if she actually started out as human (as the OP somewhat seems to hint at).

    I did enjoy that there are people on the Demon side who are as greedy and shady as the Central Nations. Furthermore, the church itself is distinctly evil, they want the Light Spirit dead, while using her name to advance their political ambitions.

    But the series needed way more Dragon Princess. She's too good of a character to only get three or four short appearances in the series.

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    Terrible, terrible show. No direction or focus, cliché characters ( i don't care if that was the point ) with dull visuals and audio all together for one hell of a deuce.

    The premise was interesting, as were some of the details involving the development of a world in the middle ages but the execution was lacking.

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    Everything that happened so far should have taken twice as many eps, and then there should have been a second season. This was jumping from one place to another like some overly long trailer instead of the real thing.

    Even though it's kind of beside the point since they were trying to reform the world through peaceful means, trade (mutual dependency for greater prosperity), and general development for greater quality of life, it's still true Hero is way too OP. With such a character the only choice left is to either keep him away (like he was now in the demon realm) or force the story to follow non-fighting solutions even when they would appear unlikely. That's clearly careless character designing considering this is a story where potential for wars is so huge (because the nations have been solving pretty much every problem with warring so far).

    All in all, lots of wasted potential with some good individual scenes, or even eps.

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    Even though it's kind of beside the point since they were trying to reform the world through peaceful means, trade (mutual dependency for greater prosperity), and general development for greater quality of life, it's still true Hero is way too OP. With such a character the only choice left is to either keep him away (like he was now in the demon realm) or force the story to follow non-fighting solutions even when they would appear unlikely. That's clearly careless character designing considering this is a story where potential for wars is so huge (because the nations have been solving pretty much every problem with warring so far).
    That was kind of the point though, a lvl 100 Hero's power doesn't amount to much when striving for the peace they wanted.

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