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    Are you seriously questioning the importance of precision in naval travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Are you seriously questioning the importance of precision in naval travel?
    I was questioning 2 things:

    1) the fact that precision wasn't available to them via maps and star-charts to a reasonable degree already.
    2) the fact that if something like that was needed, that the Alliance wouldn't have built it already. It's called an investment, and unlike crops (that we're assuming came from Demon world), it should have been easily possible.

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    Man, Bill, you are insulting all the inventors out there. Sure, it looks very simple once you hold it in your hands, but it's not quite as simple before you have even imagined it. Anyway, like has been said, the compass was just a small treat to get their attention. And it managed to do that just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Man, Bill, you are insulting all the inventors out there. Sure, it looks very simple once you hold it in your hands, but it's not quite as simple before you have even imagined it. Anyway, like has been said, the compass was just a small treat to get their attention. And it managed to do that just fine.
    Holy shit, is this common sense? It's been so long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I never quite understood the whole compass thing. The unique thing about it seemed to be the fact that it always stayed horizontal (so we're assume that the world already has compasses). How hard is it to keep a compass flat? In fact, it's the first time I've even seen a compass that bothers to stay level.

    Even then, can't you float the compass in some water?
    As Ark mentioned, actually pretty damn hard. You don't want the needle to hit the casing, because if it bends, twists, or breaks, you're screwed. In heavy seas, it's really important that the needle isn't subject to impacts or inertia spinning it all about.

    And you absolutely have, if you have ever been on any boat, or been in a car or RV that has also has one attached to the dash for some reason.
    220px-Flush_mount_compass.jpg
    This is the next logical step, modernized. You float your gimbaled compass in water. Invented like 300 years after the gimballed compass in our reality. Keeping the water in there is hard because stuff breaks, the high seas are rough on equipment, even today. The water also slows the needle down, so it doesn't twirl around as fast when jostled, and stays on North more steadily.

    It's a pretty huge breakthrough in their world, just like it was in ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Man, Bill, you are insulting all the inventors out there. Sure, it looks very simple once you hold it in your hands, but it's not quite as simple before you have even imagined it. Anyway, like has been said, the compass was just a small treat to get their attention. And it managed to do that just fine
    If we assume Wiki articles to be credible, the gimbal was first described in 280-220BC, while Medieval Europe started to flourish due to technological and agricultural advances in 1000AD. I had expected something like this to be around already if it was really required.

    I wasn't aware about how fragile compasses were though (as Ryll pointed out), so I have to admit that I must have thought the task was simpler than it actually is.

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    Stick to the medicine Buff. Leave navigation and getting position to surveyors and navigators.
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    Episode 5:

    There's no fucking focus anywhere, the story's just jumping around randomly and from what i can tell there hasn't been any significant development anywhere.

    The hero can teleport anywhere, why doesn't he just drop by for a visit? Why does everything have to be so godamn complicated with these people?

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    I get where you're coming from Ark, the story jumps around so much I'm finding it hard to get caught up in what little narrative there is between the main characters. Fortunately the fake history lessons and political/economic stuff is holding my interest, and works well on the broader time scale they're showing, however the flip side of it is that the spent developing that is spend developing the 'romance' side of the series ends up feeling wasted.

    But what I find even more frustrating is that I don't understand why I should root for the demon king x hero romance. They don't seem like they need to be lovers for any reason other than fantasy stories with a main hero and heroine have to involve romance between them. They could just as easily be two friends/companions/'bros' who have a similar dream and complementary skills that could aid in the realization of that dream who are helping each other out in the pursuit of their common goal. The assumption that there needs to be romance, particularly passion and/or intimacy in their relationship feels rather tacked on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura View Post
    But what I find even more frustrating is that I don't understand why I should root for the demon king x hero romance. They don't seem like they need to be lovers for any reason other than fantasy stories with a main hero and heroine have to involve romance between them. They could just as easily be two friends/companions/'bros' who have a similar dream and complementary skills that could aid in the realization of that dream who are helping each other out in the pursuit of their common goal. The assumption that there needs to be romance, particularly passion and/or intimacy in their relationship feels rather tacked on.
    Considering very little has happened romantically ever since the first episode, it does feel a bit tacked on. Although the initial reason for it still exist: Maou stopped Hero's sword by seducing the young man inexperienced with women. If that element hadn't existed, I reckon the author would have needed considerably more time and effort to explain why Hero would ever agree to work with Maou, and especially trust her (or him, as Maou could have been male as well, if no romance was to be expected). Making him fall in love with her solved that all very quickly indeed. Too bad it feels stupid and unnatural he would go out of his way to avoid the one person he supposedly loves so much that he was ready to throw away his previous life for her ideal and plans.

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    For me, the only unrealistic part of their relationship is the fact that Maou was 100% bluster when she seduced him, and that they are both shy still. They haven't even gone beyond touching hands in a year. She might be older than he is (by possibly even a century...), which makes it harder to believe that they are both that naive and shy about the love they are supposed to share for each other.

    You can see why the head maid is getting frustrated with the two of them.

    I feel it would be much stronger if the romance was more one-sided. One could argue that it already is with the Maou keeping body pillows and going crazy while Yuusha is content to write letters picture diary entries (but come on, you can admit that was funny) to her in her own office. But I mean more substantially.

    Now, had she seduced him with her body all the way after a bottle of "juice" that first episode, then maybe I could understand the way this series is.

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    As long as I can see more of my blonde goddess in this show I'll keep watching, no matter what




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    Look at the fine structure of those collarbones!

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    Nah, it's all about the freckles. Not enough freckles in anime if you ask me.

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    THe collar bones and freckles are nice but I'm in primarily for the over the shoulder braid, though the voice helps plenty.

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    I am consistently underwhelmed by these light novel to manga to anime adaptation.

    It's really annoying when they leave out important details which change the interpretation of certain scenes completely.

    I don't know why a garbage studio like Arms got this and Hagure Yuusha, but the animation for both have manage to be subpar. The animation took a noticeable nose dive in this episode and it wasn't the first time either. I am also starting to feel like the episodic pacing nature of anime hurts more than help because it's really disrupting the flow of the story.

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    This whole show has been underwhelming. Period. Six episodes in and there's still nothing remarkable at all, quite the contrary, it feels like every episode is wasting potential.

    I'd like to learn what prevents the human armies from reoccupying the gate city now that the island is again under their control and demons killed or driven away. You'd think that'd be the first thing to do, considering they have now tasted the sweetness of victory and how they in general enjoyed oppressing the demons. Or was the island enough and they will now cease funding to the armies?

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    This whole show has been underwhelming. Period.
    nawww

    its actually one of the few shows I enjoy watching this season. I hope to see hero fighting soon though and then its all fine by me

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    My favourite part this episode was hearing Lelouch's voice again.

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    My favourite part was when the geezer stopped Maou, even though I guessed correctly what he was after the moment it happened, and it never crossed my mind he might have done it because she's a demon.

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