MF just hates anyone that's against Eren. Even though Eren's supporters are clearly terrible.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Gabi still sucks though.
MF just hates anyone that's against Eren. Even though Eren's supporters are clearly terrible.
Gabi still sucks though.
Eren's supporters are radical and act like assholes, but Eren's overall direction is not wrong. He's just chosen a side to save and has the balls/insight to know that this would be the only way forward. I guess he also hates being oppressed so it's easy for him to stomp on everyone else if that's what he sees as just. Everyone else who thought Eren was "going too far" or was "making too much collateral damage" has nothing to say when they're reminded that the world were going to wipe them out.
Everyone else is hesitant, but ultimately aren't willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the world.
Gabi's interesting but she's also an "Eren". Difference is that she's currently powerless. She no longer wants to flatten Paradise Island, but given Eren's ultimatum now, it'll be interesting to see how far she'll go to stop him.
Armin thinking about leveraging Gabi was something I hadn't considered. He's more level headed than we think even if he lashed out.
It wasn't a bad move though. Mikasa will have to think for herself this time.
I don't get why Annie's dad decided to get himself killed. His flashback of wanting to see his daughter come back alive does not explain it at all. He knows that an Eldian acting out of line doesn't make a Marley listen.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Eren is Light. Doing questionable things for the right cause. Historians will call him a villain, but those who understand will applaud him.
He thought his daughter was long dead, was my assumption. He didn't have anything to lose.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
What a complete and utter misunderstanding of that character.
Light is basically Dexter. "I'm a psychopath who doesn't actually care about right and wrong. But if I only focus my psychopathy on so-called "bad" people, I'll get tons of support!"
Eren is probably slightly less bad, because he actually does think he's doing the right thing. But anyone who's willing to sacrifice as many good people as it takes to get all the bad people is not in the right.
Right back at ya.
Saying Light didn't actually care about making the world a better place is showing your lack of understanding of his character. I'm not surprised, however, because most people fail to properly empathize with Light.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I'm confident you're wrong. Light only cared about himself. Murdering criminals was just a way for him to foster adulation and worship.
But, short of asking the author himself, there's no way to prove it.
episode 83:
Fuck Annie and Reiner, "saving the world" my ass, they're murderous assholes and deserve death :/
And I reeeeeally hate how this is shaping up to make Eren the big, final villain. Ugh.
Pls, anime, surprise me and let Eren win.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Annie stuffing her face with pie was pretty enjoyable. Really going for the moe gap there.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Dude...he's going to muder millions of people. He's absolutely the villain now. And yes, Annie and Reiner ARE murderous assholes and deserve death. But so is Eren, times about a million. And stopping him absolutely qualifies as saving the world.
How is Eren a villain? There were 2 options:
- Eldians die
- everyone but Eldians dies
Protecting your people from being eradicated doesn't make you the villain when the other side could have just stopped attacking you.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
100% bullshit.
He has enormous power now. He has countless options. He's just convinced himself(and you, apparently) he only has 2.
I want to remind everyone that the Zeke option is still available.
But also, it doesn't solve the fundamental problem right now. Remember that Titans are powerful, and Marley was okay with keeping Paradise Island in check while it dominated elsewhere. There was always the risk of "Rumbling", but that hasn't happened for many 100 years by now. I don't know if top brass at Marley truly believe that that was still going to happen without provocation.
The reason Marley has launched some new offensives in the past few years is because Anti-titan tech was coming along and Marley's one military advantage was going to be lost, and fuck do some of those minorities hate Marley for what they've done in the past few decades - but not nearly as much as they hate Eldians.
So, Marley needs the Founding Titan in order to have full control over the titans and finalise their world dominance while Titans are still relevant.
The whole world-meeting that Eren crashed was rallying everyone together based on their hatred and fear, but Marley's original plan was to take the Founding Titan for its own gains.
Now, with that in mind, sterilizing everyone doesn't actually satisfy Marley. While Eldians will die out eventually and the world will not suffer, the remaining Eldians alive are still a "military threat/bomb" as is whoever holds the Founding Titan.
In summary, sterilizing Eldians will ensure this tragedy will not affect any future Eldians, but those alive are still very much going to suffer.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Can't Eren see the future with his powers? Then clearly he is going to win no matter what. Whatever that win entails is unknown, but his will will get done.
Peace.
He can only see the memories of every Attack Titan user.
If he doesn't have a memory of winning, then he doesn't.
Since he is an Attack Titan user, then he has seen all his possible futures. It would be ridiculous for him to choose a path where he doesn't get what he wants. Naturally, there are limitations because of unchangeable circumstances, but he would've chosen the best future for his goals among what are available. In that sense, he is definitely going to win. What that win looks like remains to be seen, but he certainly chose it.
Peace.
Afaik the attack titan can see the future of all the future attack titan bearers. If Eren is the last one to bear the attack titan, he can't see farther than his present. Which leaves open whether he sees nothing because he fails or because he concludes that whole thing.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I also think you're greatly overestimating the amount of control he has over what memories he sees. They just showed us with his trip with Zeke how hit-and-miss the process is. And there's absolutely zero indication that he can actually sift through possible futures like Dr. Strange.
Unless there is no path where he wins.
If someone slips in and kills him while he's convening with the Coordinate or whatever, all he might know is "My memories stop here."
Agreed. We don't even know if he can see he can actually see his own future memories, or only those of other Attack Titans.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Tue, 03-01-2022 at 02:05 AM.
Btw was it confirmed whether Mikasa's affection for Eren was all a lie only or not?
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
It was not confirmed.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Connie got two good laughs this episode. The first from hygiene time with mommy titan, and the second as he finally dunked on Annie's gap-moe. You can tell he's not an only child. At first, I was afraid Armin's plan was to kill the titan and remove Connie's motive to feed Falco. I wouldn't count out the cruelty, but thankfully his self-sacrifice gambit got his point across instead (I forgot he was the colossal, lol).
It is funny that Annie remains the same s1 character, not aging, and has to look (even more) up to everyone else that has grown up as she speaks. Her role to play is unclear, and her alliance uneasy, at best.
For the record, them just 'finding' her eating pie is a giant, glaring coincidence, but it doesn't matter more than any other serendipity in AoT.
Eyrun is more or less genocidal now, and there have been no convincing arguments in support of his plan outside of a few people directly benefiting from it, so I suspect he still knows something else hidden from us that may change the game one more time. That's my hunch, or else he may have to kill the friends he's trying to protect to carry out his rumbling. How long after the wall titans reach shore until he takes the top of the leaderboard in human kills from Bertholt and Reiner?
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