That's great news.
That'll teach those people at KyoAni for trying something different. They should just go back to making a new copy of K-On every season if they want to do well. More importantly, no studio should try to do anything new ever and should just stick to making moe since that's the only thing that'll sell.
This is something we should all celebrate.
I take it you like Free! then?
Peace.
Nope, i hate it. That doesn't mean that i would prefer the alternative. It didn't fail because it was bad, it failed because it's a sport anime.
It's just mean that only something amazing like Giant Killing have a chance of actually selling well. Anything average will probably not see the light of day. Overall, it's just bad for anime in general when sales encourages studios to not innovate.
Last edited by Dark Dragon; Tue, 07-09-2013 at 08:53 PM.
I haven't seen Free! yet, but from what I've been exposed to, I do hope that it is at least somewhat successful. Anime lately has been criticised for not engaging a wide enough audience like it used to (quite true, really), and it'd be great to start reversing this trend.
(Assuming it is a moe-for-girls show)
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I actually watched it, and it was horrible. I watch some bishounen shows if they are actually good, but this was just bad. This had less (if any) comedy than the usual moe show too, and that is saying something.
I am all for studios trying to produce new stuff, but Free! is not it. Moe for girls (bishounen) shows are also nothing new, and has several entries each season. What KyoAni did is simply change the gender of their target audience, but it is still moe focused. Better bishounen shows actually make the male characters seem a bit more realistic, and not cookie cutter. I am no expert at this genre, but Kuroshitsuji, Hakuoki, and Saiunkoku Monogatari are much better than this. I think the key difference is those shows actually tried to tell a story, and not just moefy its audience.
I think they should find something more serious that requires great direction and animation and produce that (FMP).
It may also be possible for them to do Utsuro no Hako, Zero no Maria, considering they managed Haruhi and Hyouka.
Why not a war story, like Madan no Ou to Vanadis?
Yeah, Free! is such a great change.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Tue, 07-09-2013 at 09:09 PM.
Peace.
I understand what you're saying.
The important thing here isn't the quality of Free!. It's been proven time and time again that the quality of something doesn't often correlate to sales.
What i'm seeing is that a fairly successful studio (KyoAni) creating an anime from a fairly popular genre (sport) with a fairly popular niche (boy love) and still can't produce any sort of decent sales number. That just seems very troubling for even less popular genre and less known studio.
This kind of numbers just give less incentive for studios to try something different.
It was kinda a miracle KyoAni even did Tamako Market (an original work) after they got burned so many times on Munto. I suspect they only made it because being moe slice of life, it was a safe bet with the staff mostly being from K-ON or Lucky Star (usually both).
They can do action series fine. Munto wasn't a hit, but was well done, and so were the action sequences of Chuunibyou (fantasy action) and obviously FMP:TSR.
They'll just never take the financial risk again.
I actually think a moe focused show, regardless of the target gender, doing badly is a good thing.
It might actually shock the studio to do something other than moe.
Peace.
I think I heard at some point that the episode budget for Free! is the same as Cowboy Bebop's.
The homo undertone and the absolute focus on drawing muscles for proper female masturbation material is there. You can hate it, you can love it. It doesn't change that it feels bland nonetheless and that the main OCD driven character has less comedy output than Death the Kid.
This season has been full of potential, but there is a SERIOUS quality issue.
SNK, Gargantia, Free! and others are suffering from a ridiculousy large quality production issues.
Making Moe is like making a certain type of car, if you fail miserably you might want to change segments, or next time you stay in your field but you make a product that actually isn't worse than smallpox.
Okay, so I watched episode 2 of Free! and it wasn't so bad. If you can look past the overwhelming fanservice and the annoying kid with the condescending painfully forced effeminate voice, there were some funny bits and a decent slice of life aspect. It really is K-ON for fujoshi.
Peace.
Sales so far:
>74,073 *9 Shingeki no Kyojin (spring)
65,465 *3 Utapri 2000% (spring)
33,547 *24 Love Live (winter)
20,492 *4 OreImo (spring)
18,066 *3 Railgun S (spring)
15,031 *4 Hataraku Yaoi-sama! (spring)
13,567 *5 Yahari (spring)
12,384 *3 BroCon (summer)
*9,878 *3 DAL (spring)
*9,371 *3 Haganai (winter)
>*9,307 *2 Gargantia (spring)
*8,906 *3 Karneval (spring)
*8,295 *2 Kakumeiki Valvrave (spring)
*8,095 *2 Vividred (winter)
*7,562 *3 OreShura (winter)
*7,238 *2 Hetalia The Beautiful World (winter)
*6,645 *2 Puchimas! -Petit iDOLM@STER- (winter)
>*6,438 *2 Danganronpa (summer)
*5,787 *2 Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko (spring)
>*5,375 *3 Servant x Service (summer)
*5,072 *3 Nyaruko-san W (spring)
*5,031 *2 Amnesia (winter)
*4,676 *2 Tamako Market (winter)
*4,323 *2 Azazel-san. Z (spring)
*4,281 *1 Courtesy of Zettai Karen Children -The Unlimited- Hyoubu Kyousuke (winter)
*4,249 *2 Yama no Susume (winter)
*4,007 *2 Muromi-san (spring)
*3,960 *1 Devil Survivor 2 (spring)
*3,874 *2 Majestic Prince (spring)
*3,726 *2 Minami-ke Tadaima (winter)
*3,261 *1 Chihayafuru 2 (winter)
*2,981 *2 AKB0048 Next Stage (winter)
*2,905 *2 Hakkenden (winter)
*2,813 *3 Yuyushiki (spring)
*2,773 *2 GJ-bu (winter)
*2,710 *1 Maoyuu (winter)
*2,499 *1 Senran Kagura (winter)
*2,321 *1 Inaba (winter)
*2,018 *1 D.C.III (winter)
*1,915 *1 RDG (spring)
*1,910 *1 gdgdFairies (winter)
*1,708 *1 Sasami-san (winter)
*1,838 *2 Mondaiji (winter)
*1,827 *1 Aiura (spring)
*1,824 *1 Senyuu. (winter)
*1,739 *1 Rozen Maiden (Summer)
*1,596 *1 Samurai Bride (spring)
*1,549 *1 Kotoura-san (winter)
*1,403 *1 Photokano (spring)
**,954 *1 Wooser no Sono Higurashi (winter)
**,880 *1 Boku no Imouto wa Oosaka Okan
>**,809 *1 Genshiken
**,715 *1 Ai Mai Mii (winter)
**,696 *1 Hayate no Gotoku! Cuties (spring)
**,404 *1 Aku no Hana (spring)
**,401 *1 Mushibugyou (spring)
**,346 *1 Crime Edge (spring)
**,339 *1 Mangirl! (winter)
**,*** ** Arata Kangatari (spring)
**,*** *0 Leviathan (spring)
It's too bad Mushibugyo is all the way down there. It is typical shounen with bad art, but it is better than some of the slice of life stuff above it.
Peace.
I'm obvious annoyed by Mondaiji doing so badly. Although Hataraku doing so well is an even bigger outrage. I have a long time ago given up trying to understand why Oreimo excels in sales. If nothing else, these sales figures do remind me that the Japanese truly is alien culture to me, no matter how much anime/manga I consume or how much random RL news I read from there.
Mondaiji girls are too strong and independent for them to be liked by the Japanese.
Peace.
No Hunter X Hunter?
They sold some Aku no Hana, really?
Maybe there's some hope.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
There really isn't, it's well below the Manabi line.Originally Posted by David75
Well, for such a project and the horrible rotoscopy idea, of course they would'nt sell much.
But they still managed to not get last position.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
***,*69位 ★ (**2,831 pt) [*,*61予約] Nozaki-kun
***,*71位 ○ (**2,724 pt) [*,**3予約] 【Amazon ltd】 Kuroshitsuji
***,102位 ★ (**4,081 pt) [*,*21予約] Free! Eternal Summer
***,107位 ★ (**2,001 pt) [*,*58予約] Barakamon
***,138位 ★ (**1,388 pt) [*,*31予約] Jinsei
***,143位 ★ (**1,613 pt) [*,**1予約] 【Amazon ltd】 Kuroshitsuji
***,150位 ★ (**1,627 pt) [*,*14予約] Bakumatsu Rock
***,172位 ★ (**4,891 pt) [*,172予約] 【Amazon ltd】 Persona 4 GA
***,178位 ★ (**3,020 pt) [*,117予約] 【Amazon ltd】 Aldnoah.zero
***,179位 ★ (**5,495 pt) [*,*39予約] 【Amazon ltd】 SAO II
***,259位 ○ (**2,215 pt) [*,*10予約] Nozaki-kun
***,285位 ○ (**2,903 pt) [*,**7予約] Free! Eternal Summer
***,319位 ★ (**1,170 pt) [*,*26予約] Hanayamata
***,353位 ★ (***,968 pt) [*,*25予約] Rokujouma
***,355位 ★ (***,*29 pt) [*,**0予約] Akame ga Kill
***,361位 ★ (**1,156 pt) [*,*23予約] Locodol
***,389位 ★ (**1,157 pt) [*,*30予約] Sabagebu
***,398位 ○ (**1,200 pt) [*,**2予約] Bakumatsu Rock
***,402位 ★ (**1,524 pt) [*,*32予約] Tokyo Ghoul
***,426位 ○ (***,917 pt) [*,**9予約] Barakamon
***,472位 ★ (**1,965 pt) [*,*13予約] 2wei
***,477位 ★ (**1,792 pt) [*,*54予約] Yama no Susume 2
***,782位 ○ (**1,573 pt) [*,*16予約] 【Amazon ltd】 Persona 4 GA
***,874位 ○ (***,*89 pt) [*,**0予約] Ao Haru Ride
***,924位 ★ (***,582 pt) [*,**0予約] Rail Wars!
***,953位 ★ (***,*57 pt) [*,**0予約] Ao Haru Ride
***,978位 ○ (**1,083 pt) [*,**6予約] Tokyo Ghoul
Special mention:
***,*40位 ★ (*24,918 pt) [*,*85予約] Hanamonogatari
***,558位 ○ (**2,725 pt) [*,**6予約] Hanamonogatari
Akame ga flop
Jinsei's actually good? I'll have to check it out now.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
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