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    Normal humans aren't really supposed to be anywhere near magi
    if thats the case, what does Alladin have to fear
    I believe the stronger, more experienced mages are able to deal with them rather well, its probably more of a problem with how many spells the "normal" mages are able to cast before they run out of magoi

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    if thats the case, what does Alladin have to fear
    He had to fear running out of magoi. Not to mention he's still a beginner, which means he's vulnerable. Even a tiger is vulnerable as a cub.

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    I thought they have an unlimited amount of magoi, because the rukh always love them or something like that and he can use not just his own, but everyones

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    I thought they have an unlimited amount of magoi, because the rukh always love them or something like that and he can use not just his own, but everyones
    Aladdin's external magoi source is blocked at the moment, so he has to worry running out the same as anybody. But unlike anybody, he's not risking his life. If shit seems to get too near the fan, all he needs to do is to remove the gem and he has got nearly unlimited magoi, especially now when he's used to a limited amount and wouldn't be wasting it anymore.

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    The downside is that everyone will know he is a magi, in very bad place for that to happen, especially now that we've been getting hints the magicians destroyed the previous world.

    The only worse place would be in front of the Kou Empress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    I thought they have an unlimited amount of magoi, because the rukh always love them or something like that and he can use not just his own, but everyones
    Dafuck do you think the red stone's for, bling bling? You need to pay more attention, not sure how you missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    The downside is that everyone will know he is a magi, in very bad place for that to happen, especially now that we've been getting hints the magicians destroyed the previous world.

    The only worse place would be in front of the Kou Empress.
    Yeah, but it's still better than dying. I'm also not certain Magnostadt would do anything immediately. They can't be fools and should know that if they react suddenly, Aladdin would flee. Since Aladdin came in hiding his real identity, Magnostadt's rulers should realise he's not a free magi served on a platter. If the geezer noticed something now, he should play it safe and just observe Aladdin for a while. That is, if he's wise.

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    And since Titus has a stone as well and isn't a Magi, we know that just having a stone won't immediately mark Aladdin as a Magi. The Master probably noticed them, but now has to figure out exactly what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Dafuck do you think the red stone's for, bling bling? You need to pay more attention, not sure how you missed that.
    who said I missed that

    kraco said no human can stand up to a magi and that its not just because of their unlimited amount of magoi
    yet he has to hide he is a magi with the help of that stone...because if they find out, they'll kill him
    so all I'm saying is that they can kill him with or without the stone and that the only difference between them is *indeed* - the amount of magoi available.

    what else would it be?
    the show made clear that Alladin has to master spellweaving just like everyone else
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    Are the stones identical? Alladin's seems to have a polyhedron cut, whereas Titus' seem to be round/ovaloïd.
    So the difference might really be that Alladin's is to block external rukh, when Titus' serves as a ruhk antenna, the emitter being Sheherazade as proviously hypothesed.

    Regarding the Geezer, it seems he's affected by that black power which serves as manipulation medium for Al-Thamen.
    Maybe being a great mage he can control it somehow. But I wonder where he really stands, when his underling was very enjoying the idea of proposing a deathmatch between Titus and Alladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    yet he has to hide he is a magi with the help of that stone...because if they find out, they'll kill him
    so all I'm saying is that they can kill him with or without the stone and that the only difference between them is *indeed* - the amount of magoi available.
    I rewatched, jumping, a bunch of the early eps of the season, but I didn't find a scene where they would have suggested Magnostadt would harm Aladdin if they found out he's a magi. My logic tells me they would very earnestly try to win him over and use him, instead, since magi are the most powerful sorcerers and that country is a magocracy. Do you remember where/when they said that, since you are saying they would kill him if found out?

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    the show made clear that Alladin has to master spellweaving just like everyone else
    Of course. He's no match for the likes of Judal, who can use magic in a more versatile manner. What I've been saying is that being a magi not only allows him a far larger supply of magoi but it also speeds up his learning of magic related studies in general. As easygoing a fellow as he is, not any bookworm, and despite knowing relatively little of magic before going to the academy, he already competed for the position of the best student of the class.

    In any case I really hope Magnostadt isn't any vassal of Al Thamen. That would be pitiful for the most academically advanced country in the region.

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    Alladin's Magnostadt tentacle rape scene is shown right before or after he has to use Bork

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    Episode 14 - HS






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    The darkness in Magnostadt is already getting pretty deep. Titus will have something profound to report back, alright. Considering all those people are living underground, without the sky and sun, practically imprisoned and in spiritual desolation except for the cheapest of material things, I'd assume all the rukh the magicians are sucking from there can't be of the golden variety. Perhaps they use the dark rukh to build the weapons we have seen before.

    I reckon Aladdin's learning days are nearing their end, even if they manage to escape the fifth district unnoticed.

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    Not too surprised that they call them Ideology classes, when they're brainwashing classes. I can't imagine that most of the magician students are truly as cold-hearted as those we saw in the 5th district. No matter how much you pamper a student, not everyone can be so callous.

    I'm also surprised the old man said the country was worse when Dunya's family ruled. We didn't get to see much of it, but there's just no way. Worse for the entitled 1/3 perhaps.

    Titus is so girly though. No wonder Aladdin was so confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I'm also surprised the old man said the country was worse when Dunya's family ruled. We didn't get to see much of it, but there's just no way. Worse for the entitled 1/3 perhaps.
    I guess there were lots of slaves, serfs, and general poverty and famine under the previous rule. Little else could explain how the current situation could be an improvement.

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    What's the difference between being a serf/slave and when you're locked in a hole, drained of life energy until they just throw you to the bottom of the pit?

    You occasionally get to see the sun as a serf or slave.

    It's a good thing Morg didn't tag along. She'd have been put down there, and then murder ever magician patrol that came down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    What's the difference between being a serf/slave and when you're locked in a hole, drained of life energy until they just throw you to the bottom of the pit?

    You occasionally get to see the sun as a serf or slave.
    I'd assume they are happy they aren't forced to work from morning till the evening every day of the week. Probably they are now getting good food as well if they get even booze, after all. I guess they aren't randomly sold off, raped, or manhandled otherwise, either. Although they are unceremoniously thrown into the pit if they get too weak, which is surely a detail that should dampen their spirits more.

    However, this all only applies to the old generation that knew worse suffering. For anybody brought in as a kid or born there, the place should be like the hell itself. I don't really see Magnostadt being able to maintain this system as it's now for too long, regardless of Aladdin's intervention. Sooner or later the administration would need to chain the people much more harshly to curb uprisings, sabotage, attacks against the mage patrols, and such.

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    @Kraco: I think the magicians have an overwhelming power advantage over the 5th district residents. That's particularly true for the nasty, combat-trained. This makes me wonder how Meirs takes all this in. She hasn't been shown to be have an evil aura like the other teachers (nor does she dress like them), but I have no doubt she knows about this place.

    @Ryll: Ruhk is different from Magoi right? I only remember seeing dark Ruhk. The only "dark magoi" I remember seeing is Kassim's inside Alibaba, and that could have been drawn that way by the studio for illustration purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    @Kraco: I think the magicians have an overwhelming power advantage over the 5th district residents.
    Sure they do. But currently the minority is exploiting the majority with considerable ease. All they do is send in the food and wine, and those occasional patrols for who knows what reasons, maybe only for disease control and to limit the food used by those who can't produce rukh. However, if the citizens of the 5th district turn restless, the magicians will need to dedicate a significant amount of troops to control them around the clock, plus keep repairing the damage caused to avoid the quantity of rukh collected dropping.

    It's like pumping oil from a pleasant desert field far away from people and any delicate nature compared to going to a challenging sea location requiring expensive equipment and risking exceedingly costly environmental catastrophes. But like with oil, it's only a matter of time for Magnostadt before things get complicated. It would have happened eventually without Aladdin, but with him probably sooner.

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    So, I have a sneaking suspicion that Titus isn't a real person and is some kind of magical construct created by Shaharazad. What with him seeming to have no experience of seemingly normal things, and the way she said this mission is the reason for his existence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    @Ryll: Ruhk is different from Magoi right? I only remember seeing dark Ruhk. The only "dark magoi" I remember seeing is Kassim's inside Alibaba, and that could have been drawn that way by the studio for illustration purposes only.
    As far as I can tell, the Ruhk are the butterflies that represent, like, people's spirits or something like that.

    Magoi is mana.

    Rukh seem to be made of Magoi, or they carry it at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    What's the difference between being a serf/slave and when you're locked in a hole, drained of life energy until they just throw you to the bottom of the pit?

    You occasionally get to see the sun as a serf or slave.
    You say that, but there are countless people that would kill to be in a situation like that.

    Free food and water, and all they have to do is live underground? The real world is full of places where living is way worse than that.
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