I'm not sure what's so weird about it, it seemed pretty logical to me. And they explained the concept behind all of it so not sure what mechanics where unexplained.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I'm not sure what's so weird about it, it seemed pretty logical to me. And they explained the concept behind all of it so not sure what mechanics where unexplained.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
The mechanic that wasn't explained was "How does the magic identify the killer?"
The flow of events is as follows:
-Magic identifies killer is of Genesis Clan
-Clan investigation has nay
-Must be Exodus!!
To give an analogy, the situation's like:
-Investigation says killer is a painter
-Search into the Brotherhood of painters identifies no killers.
-Therefore, it must be a photographer!!
What was the reasoning/mechanism behind the identification/narrowing down of the initial suspect? Why is that reasoning/identification suddenly invalidated now by Lead 2?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Mm if I've understood it correctly, killing another person goes against the worlds logic and is taboo and if someone does this the Tree of Genesis "blacklists" the person in question. The clan upholds the logic of the world so they can find these people but if a person in the clan does kill someone they can undergo a ritual to be forgiven and thus when someone searches for the killer no one will be found as the Tree of Genesis has forgiven the culprit. True they could have wondered if something went wrong with the magic but we're talking about the self proclaimed most powerful magician in the world so they wouldn't just doubt the results. Since they didn't find someone who's conducted the ritual they just created a theory around Exodus since a Mage of Exodus wouldn't get caught in it's web.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
But why conclude that the mage was of the Genesis clan, only to find that they're not OF the clan?
By saying that the Exodus mage is responsible is telling us to completely disregard the fact that their tracking magic said the culprit was of the Genesis clan.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
That's actually the point.
The tree of genesis maintains the logic of the world, the tree of exodus defies the logic of the world.
No sacrifices necessary for the latter.
Hakase explained it earlier on.
Well who says that there is only one mage of Exodus?
I'm assuming by "Mage of Exodus", they're saying something like "Princess/Prince of Exodus" and not just a random mage of the opposite fraction.
The princess was born to protect the Tree of Genesis, and that's their reasoning for the existence of a Mage of Exodus. The clan's just randomly been around. I'm going to guess that they've never met an Exodus clan in all these generations.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I still think Aika is the Princess of Exodus and this guy is just a mage. Exodus defies logic. The dead stay dead. Unless that logic is defied I guess.
It would follow that both the Mage of Exodus was involved as well as someone being present from the Kusaribe clan. By the rest of the Kusaribes not detecting anything, they could conclude that something was interfering, that is, the Mage of Exodus. That Hakase detected a Kusaribe clan member is that much more significant, because she is magnitudes stronger than the rest of them are. Someone from the Kusaribe was present, but not directly involved.
In fact, this might support Arch's postulation that Aika was the Mage of Exodus before her death by suicide.
Either that, or Hanemura Megumu is lying about both his disposition for violence and destruction and everything else we've seen. I severely doubt he is that phenomenal an actor. He appears to be a genuinely nice guy who realized he had the power around the same time Aika was killed.
If Genesis is logic and Exodus lack of logic, then trying to deduce whether Hanemura is the prince of Exodus is futile. If he seemed like one, he might not be one, because it would be a logical outcome. It makes sense Genesis would try to control events (sensibly) to further its own agenda, but Exodus would rather cause confusion to drive its needs in a roundabout way, just like Samon and what's-his-name were blathering.
Still, it has been nice to think Aika was the agent of Exodus. She surely was enjoying confusing Mahiro and Yoshino.
Ah. I'll have to take my words back, it was explained after all.
edit: Reading back, I see fireheart said it too. I missed it somehow.
edit2: (well, he said everything BUT that the tracking came up clean, so I'm not completely at fault)
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
No it's not telling us to disregard the first suspects, the only thing the magic found was that whoever killed Aika was not "blacklisted" by the Tree of Genesis, this doesn't really mean it has to be someone from the clan but Hakase is from the clan and knows that the members can undergo the ritual. As the conversation with Samon showed the clan normally conducts checks as they usually punishes the clan members if they have killed someone.
That's the important part from what I gathered, that no one got caught in her web. By default that means she'd suspect someone from her clan and not the Mage of Exodus as they have never encountered such a person or even suspected that such a mage could exists. The only reason they came to that conclusion that the Mage of Exodus could exist is because no one was caught in the web and wasn't from the clan as the only other person who could do that is a Mage of Exodus. At least that's how I interpreted it.
Edit: Nevermind should refresh more often, I didn't really catch on that you didn't notice that the trace didn't give any results, ohh well.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
There was hardly anything novel in it, but I liked the scene of Jun making Hakaze realise she has fallen for Yoshino, especially since she had to ultimately admit it and didn't keep denying it like so many characters in anime/manga. Too bad she probably won't be finding out any time soon Yoshino's girlfriend is long dead. Although who knows, but since that is the one big known but unspoken secret in the show, I'd expect it to last still for a while. If Hakaze finds out, Mahiro would find out as well, I guess.
Do you really think she's really dead Kraco?
I'm not so sure. I thought Yoshino was always contacting her perhaps.
Now that the Mage of Exodus has a cellphone girlfriend of his own, the most immediate theories are:
1) Yoshino's and Mage's girlfriends are Aika for real. She's double-timing to orchestrate something.
2) Yoshino and Mage were actually dating each other via long distance. They're somehow seeing Aika's picture instead of each others'.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I thought he's just reading old mails and staring at her pretty picture. Has he got any new mails from his girlfriend ever since Aika, supposedly if you so insist, died?
But yeah, I really think, at the moment, that Aika is dead. With this series being as it is, I have no idea whether that will ever allow Yoshino and Hakaze to become a couple, though, if Aika indeed is dead.
LMAO! Make this happen, please.
There's definitely something there though, how they're deceptively not showing his girlfriend. But she has to be real in some manner seeing as his friend when the mage made his first appearance also acknowledged her existence.
I don't like how they're dragging along these tiny plot developments, what i really want to know is what Aika's true role is in all of this. I'll be severely disappointed if she doesn't turn out to be an evil mastermind with some evil purpose and an evil smirk.
He already knew, it's just her identity that he was unaware of.
I have no idea what to think of you thinking of number 2.
Peace.
I laughed when Mahiro got called out to be a sis-con.
For some reason I always thought Hakaze was the same age as Mahiro and Yoshino, considering Jun is a college student and older than Hakaze. Maybe she's only a year or two older than them I guess?
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