Haven´t watched the new ep yet, but random question that came popping in my head:
What is "shin sekai yori" translated into english? "Shin Sekai" means "new world", but how do you translate the "yori" here? Afaik "yori" is used for making comparisons, like "otoko wa onna yori tsuyoi" ("men are stronger than women"). But I cannot make out how to translate this title. Anyone?
The ones using the guns also had the thick bamboo shields. The comment was meant to point out that the Robber Fly Alliance is using ancient human warfare technology, largely mirroring human history detail for detail. The implication is clear, Squealer/Yakomaru has captured a False Minoshiro.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I shouldn't even respond to this, but try reading the first post in the thread.
At the beginning of the ep, I was wondering if we were following a backstory to
another Saki from centuries ago before Queerats developed into what they are in the
Saki era we know of. Eventhough they were careful in showing us the year, Satoru
and other details.
I clearly would have liked such backstory, but the episode was a lot stronger for
many other reasons.
Adult Saki is hot, that's clear, but I find her not that mature for her age. Maybe
she's been working on the aging stuff and only ages at 1/4 or 1/3 of the pace of
other human beings. In the ep, she was more around 18-20 than 26 in my opinion, at
least on a mental level. But again, this is purely based on some expectation and
examples from the societies I live in, and not theirs that is clearly less advanced
and openminded.
Regarding the Queerats, my idea is that Humans have been played with bigtime.
They did not understand the battle they were offered to watch was for show and
something more sinister is in the works.
Of course, it's easier for us to know as Saki spoiled us into searching for what
can go wrong.
They are gradually outsmarting their Gods in strategy, tactics, war, science and numbers.
They only lack cantus, but numbers and war experience could have them beat humans after all.
To my knowledge, they were able to get rid of the monk, even if losing lots of their peers.
If they ever got their hands on a minoshiro, they probably now are devising long term strategies to overpower humans.
And maybe they are indeed using Mamoru and Maria in ways we do not know yet. Either their fiend form that can transform some of their peers into powerful beasts, and maybe others in smarter forms... After all, they have numbers, so they can experiment a lot.
Or as stated above, by controling one with the other.
Saki probably felt something strange, but never dared speak at her small level. Tomiko is growing old and her ear ending is not a problem for her. Maybe she's even wishing for something to happen at the end of her life, like what happened at the beginning as everything in between was so boring.
The decision to have Saki care for exospecies for so long is a smart one too. There she can learn the work position she should have some day as managing human communities... food/water/homes/quarrels etc and decisions to have some dead and save others.
But it only holds truth if humans survive. We think we know Saki is still living, but maybe we're only having her stroy told from a minoshiro...
I wanted to try a more detailed and better written answer, but that would take too long and I'd miss the right time to elaborate.
So I decided to throw ideas poping from the top of my head.
It clearly was a good episode for all the subtext anyone can find.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The end of monarchy and subjugating the queens might have been more of a political and societal development theme than a hint that humans would be put on the operation tables of queerat surgeons. During the interrogation in this episode the people present showed some surprise when Squealer talked about deposing queens and establishing democracy. But who knows, maybe the author watched the Planet of the Apes back in the day...
I won't believe queerats are outright coercing Maria (or Mamoru) to do anything until I see it with my own eyes. Not that Squealer wouldn't be able to stomach such a thing, but it's still probably a bit premature for them to risk so much.
I re-watched that scene.. it seems the ones doing the shooting were actually the Hornets (with both sides having shields).
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Okay, but why is "yori" translated with "from"? Should be "Shin Sekai Kara" then.
Anyway, watched the new ep.
I *HATE* Saki and all the humans. Seriously, I´m SO rooting for the queerrats ... both factions. I like Kiroumaru´s dignity and powerful appearance. And I love Yakomaru´s wit and intelligence.
Nothing the queerrats do is "evil". They´re trying to create their own society - which is perfectly fine in my book.
Let´s hope the queerrats somehow manage to cause an upset, putting "the gods" off their podestal and become the new dominant species of the planet. Saki watching the queerrats´ war is barbaric and nothing else. fuck her.
Nope, Saki is just undergoing the training required to be a human leader.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Karma Demons warp things unconsciously. Fiends kill things without limits.
This reminded me of a very good point. The queerats were bred to be the humble servants of mankind. The democracy thing clearly shows that they've evolved out of that docile mentality. If we're evaluating them as living things it may be unethical to cull them based on their will for dominance and survival, but from the human perspective they're not defective products that no longer serve their purpose - Like an AI that has gained self awareness and desires self-preservation.
Remember the Clone Trooper's commentary about Jedis?
If they can be tricked, they can be killed.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Too bad a single human can wipe out a colony. If the naked mole rats pose any threat, it is due to their ability to make use of cantus, like how they manipulated Saki and Satoru in the past, and now Mamoru and Maria.
@Mfauli - Yori is also "from" in Japanese. It is the noun form of the word yoru, which means "to come from." Learn more of the language before complaining.
Peace.
This is getting really good, only show I'm watching this season. I'm afraid to stumble into spoilers, does anyone know how much material this show has to work with? Would make my day if it has many many books.
According to Wiki, this story originates from just one novel.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It isn't a light novel, but an actual novel, right?
Peace.
That's what I think, so it shouldn't be lacking content.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
So with less than aproximately 100 queerats, they were able to:
Kill many humans
Kill somebody the equivalent grade of a general
Kill somebody equivalent to a ministry of war
Evaluate the power of the main weapon humans have : Shisui.
For the latter, I guess his power probably is at max the one of a Fiend/KD... or he wouldn't be sane himself.
And for some reason, I think queerats already know how to deal with Fiends/KDs...
Also, they confirmed for themselves humans suck at the art of war...
Regarding bones and DNA, we have to remember Mamoru is a great artist, he probably has the skills needed to create very good bones and dental copies. For DNA, I guess that since he's about to go KD, his powers skyrocketed and he was able to apply all his knowledge to the molecular level. I think this is all Mamoru's doing as we do not know much of Maria's specifics as we only saw her using cantus to jump/fly.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
It was indeed a successful strike for the queerats, considering a single fight. Though what happens next will decide the result of the whole war. If Mamoru and/or Maria is defending the colony and have become fiends, then the extermination team might be wiped out. A karma demon wouldn't be overly convenient since they eventually destroy everything around them. But a fiend might be manageable for queerats. Besides, I think people from the village would have spotted the effects of a karma demon. Such a thing would need to be kept far away from the colonies and especially human villages.
HELL YEAH!
That was my reaction over the course of most of this episode´s length.
I really have to ask: Am I the only one that feels that the queerrats are the good guys here, while the humans are the villains? Or is it an intentional plot element?
Never did I think "oh those damn queerrats, hopefully the humans can defend themselves". Instead, I saw arrogance and coldheartedness on the human side of things. Tomiko daring to speak about "living beings" at the end of the episode, when all she cares about is her own species, made me rage.
Go, Yakomaru, make this world yours!
:>
I'm all for the humans. I can't really fault the queerats for wanting to attack humans in order to rid themselves of constant mortal threat, but I do hope they lose. Humans are prettier. They never seemed to kill queerats on the basis of "just because they could" either, so I see them as nice bosses who were simply genetically superior.
Are Fiends actually more powerful than their non-Fiend counterparts, or do they simply have their Death Feedback removed? Full bets on Mamoru being the Fiend backing up Squealer. I wonder if Mamoru and Maria actually never left the village and promised to help the queerats instead?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
As far as the humans are concerned, I don't want to see Satouru die, that's about it. I really do dislike the arrogance of a lot of the humans. It seems like our main characters are the only ones with any empathy with the queerats even if they're pretty bad themselves. I'm kiiiiiiiiiiiind of rooting for the rats. Besides, Yakomaru is just too damned entertaining not to be rooting for him. It'd be like watching the Dark Knight and not rooting for the joker. Hogwash!
And um...Kimomaru is totally in on all this. That smirk he displayed last week totally gave him away. I suspect both he and Yakomaru leveraged the favors done for group 1 in the past to enlist Mamoru and Maria, combine with some brain washing by way of sympathizing with their plight. Furthermore...I'm entirely convinced that the skeletons Saki and Satoru returned to the village were human skeletons. I think Yakomaru, by that time, had already seen or taken part of the murder of a cantus user. The remains are probably from said user. This was already a great episode, I can't wait to see what comes next. Crafty rats...
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
I thought that was just bloodlust..
During this episode while Shisui was standing on his tower, I was wondering the entire time whether queerats had invented/re-discovered sniper rifles yet. He just seemed way too good a target.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
