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    shenanigan aside, that's how you use a sword and board.

    Godfrey's VA sounds like Gai from Naruto.

    Laughing Coffin strikes again... Should be interesting to see if we get a retaliatory of some sort from the head guy seeing as Kirito gets to walk away again.

    Asuna flashes a little T&A and Kirito wants to get hitched. Wow...
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    I guess there's no way in SAO to keep a record of what happened between Kirito and the 2 other guys and also when Asuna appeared.
    There's no way for an outsider to know precisely what happened when Sachi and her comrades died.

    Also it seems Kirito and Asuna will be out of the guild for some time.

    Wouldn't people think they are in fact evil PKs? Especially if some people spread the right rumors at the right time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitokiri View Post
    Laughing Coffin strikes again... Should be interesting to see if we get a retaliatory of some sort from the head guy seeing as Kirito gets to walk away again.
    I doubt this incident really changed much for Laughing Coffin. The head honcho must have been just using the loser guy, Asuna's stalker, and in the end I wouldn't be so sure Laughing Coffin even expected Kirito to fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitokiri View Post
    Asuna flashes a little T&A and Kirito wants to get hitched. Wow...
    If anything, Asuna herself has been wanting that for a longer time now. Kirito just took responsibility after the night, like they often say in anime.

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I guess there's no way in SAO to keep a record of what happened between Kirito and the 2 other guys and also when Asuna appeared.
    There's no way for an outsider to know precisely what happened when Sachi and her comrades died.

    Also it seems Kirito and Asuna will be out of the guild for some time.

    Wouldn't people think they are in fact evil PKs? Especially if some people spread the right rumors at the right time?
    Considering the guild is held in high regard and Asuna is famous in a positive way, I doubt those rumours would amount to anything much. Kirito the lone wolf is of course the weak link, but even he was accepted into the guild in a flashy and popular manner, so most people should ignore plain rumours without any solid evidence backing them.

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    Kirito's red thingy, Asuna's orange, 2 guild members dead. With well crafted storytelling you can really start something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Kirito's red thingy, Asuna's orange, 2 guild members dead. With well crafted storytelling you can really start something.
    You don't get orange or red by attacking an already orange player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    You don't get orange or red by attacking an already orange player.
    I do not think it has been said in the anime yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Kirito's red thingy, Asuna's orange, 2 guild members dead. With well crafted storytelling you can really start something.
    Sure, but will it really matter? If they are ever confronted, all they would need to say is that it was self-defense. Only petty and jealous people or individuals that already had a grudge against them would actually take the lies to heart. And you can't live your life worrying about such people. Kirito and Asuna both are famous already, so they can't avoid having small-minded people hate them in any case.

    Plus I'm not sure the high-profile PK guild would bother with such a slow and roundabout way with no particular solid outcome. Using the loser stalker to poison Kirito was much more fitting, and quite a decent plot all in all, although I was a bit surprised Kirito swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. But then again, he's a loner so maybe he can judge people neither in good nor bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I do not think it has been said in the anime yet?
    The orange guild leader said something to that effect.

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    Thanks, I seem to miss a lot of details these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    I've recently started reading it and didn't even know that chapter existed until now. So the translators deemed the authors own chapter too explicit and just removed/deleted it? Seems so wrong but whatever.

    I love the premise but hate that it goes so fast.. could be a huge epic story of this if it went through floors a bit more slowly and really built the world instead of this "suddenly more than half the game is cleared" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek View Post
    I've recently started reading it and didn't even know that chapter existed until now. So the translators deemed the authors own chapter too explicit and just removed/deleted it? Seems so wrong but whatever.
    The translators want to avoid people having the awkward realization that they are reading a fanfiction-level piece about fucking underage girls in the Matrix, and not some GREAT NOVEL.

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    If the sentence in Archie's pic is truly a direct translation from the novel, I have to say most of the h-doujins I have read have had better writing. But yeah, I'm understanding better and better why Y hasn't been much praising the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If the sentence in Archie's pic is truly a direct translation from the novel, I have to say most of the h-doujins I have read have had better writing. But yeah, I'm understanding better and better why Y hasn't been much praising the source.
    Word for word.

    Glop glop glop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If the sentence in Archie's pic is truly a direct translation from the novel, I have to say most of the h-doujins I have read have had better writing. But yeah, I'm understanding better and better why Y hasn't been much praising the source.
    I read the first "novel" just to be able to talk shit to people coming into this thread huffing and puffing about how all the flaws are the result of a bad adaptation. The prose in the baka-tsuki translation is something that would get you beat up when the bullies were reading it out of your notebook in grade school. I think in equal measure the absolute worthlessness of the novels is due to them being the author's first longform work ever and the awful, direct transliteration done.

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    To be fair, it wasn't written under Reki's name, but another pen name used by the writer. It was supposedly only posted on the 18+ section of the author's website and was never published in Dengeki Bunko.

    I have read that specific chapter and it was written very very badly, just like the line in question suggests. I found it hilarious at first, but then had to stop reading because it was so horrible. However, the writing style is quite different from the rest of SAO, so either it did not go through the usual editing process, or it was written by another person.

    I am not saying SAO has good writing though. It is very amateurish even for a light novel.
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    We do have a comparison thread for everybody who wishes to make further comparisons between the anime and the LN, so I'll ask that further discussion here be more relevant to the anime.

    So Asuna was allowed to leave the front lines with someone for an unspecified amount of time, but wasn't allowed to follow a guy to fight on the front lines. Blood Knights seem more possessive than anything else.

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    Was Asuna in any real danger when the idiot guy tried to slash her? Her HP must be full, and I doubt a single attack (it wasn't even a skill), even if taken full on, will even get her HP to the red zone. Kirito must have known this as well, yet proceeded to kill the stalker. Kirito's HP was full as well due to the healing crystal. This seems to suggest that rather than actually trying to save Asuna from death, he decided that the guy deserves to die. It wasn't self-defense or protection. It was punishment.

    Don't get me wrong, the guy deserved it. I'm glad Kirito killed the bastard.
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    As you said, the two weren't in any real danger if you thought about it. The whole chopping hand thing was for effect I think.. in order to give us the impression of needing to kill Kuradeel. (all the reason why Kirito should have remained handicapped IMO)

    Then again, with someone like Kuradeel you might not know. Poisoned blades should be something he (and the game engine) should be capable of.

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    I find it a testament to how soured I am on this series that even though it (nearly) gave me something I find sorely lacking in anime, namely teenagers who are developing feelings for one another getting to the awkward but determined sexual stage in their relationship rather than hovering indefinitely just beyond it to appease delicate sensibilities, but the execution was so lame and full of holes I couldn't really get into it.

    Usually I can suspend my disbelief and let myself get into the mindset the author/creator wants me to be in even if I know the things happening wouldn't or shouldn't make sense in reality, but SAO seems especially determined to come off as forced as possible whenever any major 'emotional' developments come along and I just can't stop seeing it.

    Item the first: The guy who died escorting Kirito and Kuradeel was given enough characterization to make him seem somewhat likable, but then when he was killed, rather brutally even, no one cared about him after or was affected by his death in the least. I can see how it might have been overshadowed in Kirito and Asuna's mind due to their focus on the feelings of nearly dying/nearly losing their love interests however this still bugged me. If you're going to do the whole kill a red shirt thing to show how serious things are, you shouldn't bother trying to make people like them or even notice them as an individual rather than a plot device and then treat their death as meaningless and not have any character acknowledge or be affected by it.

    Item the second: Kirito just had what should have been a rather traumatic near death experience, and it should have been rather novel to him since he was completely helpless the whole time and stared death in the face without the benefit of adrenaline fueled tunnel vision to distract him, but of course he's fine b/c he's an anime hero not some whiny Shinji, but I couldn't make myself 'shut up and enjoy it' because the author has spent too much time bouncing the characters back and forth, and rather jarringly at that, between normal human mode and fantasy hero mode. So after very nearly dying Kirito just wants to have a nice dinner with Asuna because real badasses aren't affected by their emotions except to put on a show for girls that they do in fact have softer sides.

    One thing that I did 'like', in the sense that I was able to keep my disbelief suspended anyway, was much of Asuna's behavior. I don't find this particularly surprising since she is so blatantly written to be the idealized female companion for a gamer nerd with a hero complex but I can accept judging her based on the role she has been assigned and admit that she is good in it.
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    Bottling up everything inside so that in comes back with a vengeance is quite possible too. I don't know if that will happen here, but psychology can also be like that. Especially in teenage males still dreaming of being the ultimate hero.

    Now it's entirely possible they wanted to keep the couple arc progressing and will come back to side characters in due time.

    I like that you (and I too ) can't even name the guy that died.
    Sure, to Kirito and Asuna, it should be far more important they remember because of the consequences and the reality they're in.
    But on our level, we do not care that much either, for forgetting the poor guy's name so easily.

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