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    Awesome user with default custom title KrayZ33's Avatar
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    didn't that just happen with the Divine Dragons guild?
    the show ist awesome, I just wish it would be longer and thus a bit more detailed.

    his "beater status" seems to be of no concern anymore, thats a shame

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    Well, Keita did say something to the effect of "You're a beater you had no business hanging with us!" right before he jumped to his death. Seems to me like the guild didn't know about his status before hand, and when Keita found out, he was pissed.

    Which reminds me, it kind of is Kirito's fault that guild got destroyed. With his presence, their encounters in the game were probably significantly easier. Not realizing that Kirito was of a much higher level than they were, they probably misjudged the difficulty of the content they were facing. Sure, they were kind of dumb to fall into an obvious trap, but part of that dumbness was most likely influenced by a false sense of security stemming from Kirito's presence and deception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    but part of that dumbness was most likely influenced by a false sense of security stemming from Kirito's presence and deception.
    Yup.
    Kirito was always backing them up. When he fails, everyone dies but him since he still has just what it takes to save his ass... but not enough margin to save anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Yup.
    Kirito was always backing them up. When he fails, everyone dies but him since he still has just what it takes to save his ass... but not enough margin to save anyone else.
    Which is funny because that was the very reason why he refused to take Klein's friend when he offered to fast-track at the beginning.

    A lot of this actually happens because the groups employ Kirito as a helper/consultant instead of a leader. Everybody else makes the calls.. then when Kirito notices and tries to call them back, they're as good as dead. Leading probably puts Kirito off, so he's destined to be solo or at most, form a partnership.

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    The scene at the beginning of this episode, when he was convinced to join that group, showed without question just how much he's lacking in leadership charisma in normal human interactions. The end of the second ep and for example his meeting with Klein before and after the spruce boss fight demonstrated, however, that he's not lacking in the particular lone wolf charisma whenever he's pushed back to realising that suits him best (at this point, anyway). I reckon he might fare much better in a less tight group of strong fighters, who don't need a leader and are less dependent on each other, only fighting for a common purpose (end bosses) and having fun with each other.

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    While i think this story would've been better spread over 2 episodes. This as a stand alone episode is still very well done.

    It does lacks the emotional impact because we didn't have time to know the character and the lack of narrator really hurt this show. There's plenty of small detail that would've been beneficial for the audience to know through Kirito as a narrator like in the books.

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    I wonder why they did not use Kirito as a narrator at least in some parts. Some internal monologue to explain things a bit should not ruin the feel of the show at all.
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    Well, narration slows down the pace. And it seems they are in a hurry. So they probably had to slash through a lot, probably to keep only the cool/flashy parts for fans.

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    The problem is i don't see the need to rush.

    minor length spoiler:


    This entire story arc is just volume 1 along with a a few side stories that makes up volume 2. Highschool Dxd was able to easily fit 2 volumes into 12 episodes so even at regular pacing there isn't really a need to go so fast.

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    I think they're going to try to fit through Volume 4 in the anime.

    Regarding this episode, overall pretty good. They just should have added the small detail that Kirito knew the traps from the floor they died on and up were significantly harder, but didn't tell them about it.

    I was also happy to see the information broker, since they cut her out of episode 2.

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    Yeah i was happy to see Argo, she seems a cool character.

    I've been reading the volumes that they've adapted so far and i think they did a pretty good job.

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    Nerf Kirito plx.

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    Kirito just needs to stop hanging out in lower-level areas in an attempt to impress girls.

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    I gave this show a shot. Yes, I watched an anime. It's pretty inoffensive and has a certain charm. The art and animation are bland. I did laugh a little at some of the MMO jokes like the first enemy being a boar and the clingy guy who wants to level with you. That being said, three's really nothing with substance here. The second episode introduces Asuna the ridiculous walking cliche, and the guys we meet in episode three are no better - they're obviously marked for death the second Kirito lies about his level to them and barely exist aside from that. There's no emotion from a shitty fake tearjerking scene for a character we don't know or care about. I love the sepia toned flashbacks for a dead girl who was in the show all of ten minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Nerf Kirito plx.
    Nah, it's like Ryll says, it'll all be fixed once Kirito goes back to a more challenging level with people of his calibre.

    I enjoyed this episode regardless. It feels so boss to completely own everybody, even if a little boring.

    Reminds me of my skyrim character (that I replayed recently in anticipation for Dawnguard) at lvl61 who can beat anything if I slightly try. She wears a shirt because armour is too OP.

    The imouto was cute too. Her undressed look confused me and I thought I was seeing a miniature Asuna.

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    I pretty much agree, I do like the anime for what it is, but it just hasn't built up any storyline to follow.

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    evertyhing is going to fast man, how come Kirito is so famous now
    its awesome as it is, but it could be even better

    can't say I didn't enjoy him outgearing dem noobs, but lvl 72 now? thats ~20+ levels each ep so far. (if you count ep 1 as a prolouge)
    is it over at lvl 100? (100 floors each floor 1 level?)


    I pretty much agree, I do like the anime for what it is, but it just hasn't built up any storyline to follow.
    don't know about that, the goal is to get out of the game and thats done by clearing all floors, so as long as they advance in floor numbers the story is making progress.
    I really want to know how this show is going to end and what is going to happen to everyone and especially the GM
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    don't know about that, the goal is to get out of the game and thats done by clearing all floors, so as long as they advance in floor numbers the story is making progress.
    The goal of the show isn't for Kirito to escape from the game, it's for me to give a shit that he did so. There's little life to Kirito's character and everything else exists as a series of barely fleshed out cliches. There's not a lot of world building, dialogue is almost purely expository instead of doing character work, and like you said, the plot is advanced by a number changing (which itself is a fairly cute commentary on MMO gaming). He basically just wanders around and grinds offscreen, with no continuity to stitch the events in the first few episodes together in a meaningful fashion.

    I think there is something that could be done with Kirito's character, although I doubt the show will do so. Kirito seems almost like a sociopath, not just your garden variety MMO loner. He understands and sympathizes with the maniac game designer, his home life was portrayed entirely by a voice from outside a closed door, he obviously can't relate to human beings, and he's actually thrilled at the prospect of living vicariously through his online persona. When confronted about his beta test experience he brags about how amazing he was, drawing even more ire onto himself, because he has the social skills of a serial killer. Presumably by the end of the show he will open up somewhat, but I'd like to see a much more cynical take on a main character like him.

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    Allegedly, this recent material is all filler written after the main story. I'm told the anime is presenting the material in chronological order, whereas the novel just jumps right ahead.

    But I agree completely. There's a pathetic excuse for "character development" for Kirito. This whole episode, we learned just one thing about him, his guilt about his sister/cousin. But even that comes out of nowhere, and serves no purpose aside from his motivation to help the girl here...which they largely rescind when it's revealed he was doing it for a completely different reason. I guess we don't even know if it was all a lie.

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