You haven't been watching the OP Kraco.
It's a lightsaber, and just like any lightsaber, it can deflect blaster bolts. And apparently bullets. I guess it vaporizes the latter.
Since the two are obviously going to end up in some kind of team arrangement, Kirito uses his Mary Sue powers to cause havoc on a massive scale downrange, and Sinon covers him from snipers or others attacking his blind spot.
Kirito needing somebody to cover his back and not being able to do everything by himself would be novel enough to be worth seeing. But yes, I'm not actually arguing against Kirito being able to do whatever he wants, I'm just speaking generally. If everything else failed, Kirito would just summon an admin console out of his ass and hack the game to suit his needs. If all the opponents are as lousy as the company with the minigunner, the tactics you described would be nice, since they would never even know Kirito was there before he was lopping off heads. They would just be covering from sniper fire and shooting wherever.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
And no, I haven't been watching the OP, I admit that.
You guys remember the prediction lines? Yeah, just play "join the dots" with your lightsaber to parry bullets.
Seeing Kirito be good at something again was nice to see. As for the game though, I'd imagine that most people porting from ALO to GGO would be in a similar situation to Kirito (so the fantasy thing doesn't impact on his avatar). They might not be as high in sword skills though since even back iin ALO Kirito was considered unbalanced and lacking in magic skills.
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Now that's more like it! Just good ol' fashioned Kirito being badass in defiance of expectations.
I don't like that it looks like Kirito is going directly into this tournament. It means there won't be any cool badass drifter stage of this arc...
Because it's a fucking LIGHTSABER! Even if it sucks, people would spend a bunch of money on it, because lightsabers are the fucking bomb yo!
Because the different weapons are meant for different roles obviously. The beam weapons are for fighting monsters, who don't have shields. The ballistic weapons are for PvP.
I wonder if Kirito's sword will be half damage against shields since it's an energy weapon.
This. So much this.
Keep in mind though that, unlike anyone else porting over from ALO, that Kirito's ALO abilities were ported all the way from SAO. So his character's sword skills are probably about twice what any other player in existence's are.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sun, 07-27-2014 at 01:55 AM.
But this isn't a musket era game. There could easily be dozens of lines coming from a fully automatic gun. Multiply that if there are many opponents. It's easier for him to dodge or never to get shot at in the first place.
Yeah, if simply creating an account in ALO and porting it over to GGO would automatically grant a pretty boy avatar, then nobody would be offering millions for it, I reckon. They would just first create an account in ALO themselves. It can't be so expensive considering the number of players. Kirito was just lucky, and why wouldn't he be; luck seems to be one of his major skills.
It would. The better question is what half-damage actually is, along with any other max mitigations. In Skyrim armour could at best reduce 80% damage. That meant my sneak attacks were guaranteed to do at least 2000 damage to your HP, which nothing ever had.
They could be, if "sword skills" were a common thing between everything. Currently I'm more inclined to think that Kirito's base stats encourage physical close combat while he swings a sword because that's what he knows how to do, as opposed to because he's got 5000pts invested into the 'melee weapons' stat or something.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Yeah, his Str stat is probably insane as well given that he said Dex was his secondary stat and he's already doing things with Dex that other people can't. So if the swords damage is at all based on his Str, he'll probably be one-shotting everyone regardless of shields.
Doesn't stop Jedi or Crouching Tiger characters from doing it. Seriously doubt an anime character in a VR world will have any trouble.
I'm cautious in bringing in Jedis into comparisons because they have the aid of the Force. Without it, normal people end up cutting themselves with lightsabers. Having no mass doesn't help as your muscles can't use their proprioception and stretch feedback to inform you of the beam's orientation.
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Though I've said it about 100 times already, but this is supposed to be a game about gun fights, not about Jedi or... Crouching Tigers, uh. If this wasn't sao-shit writing that only serves to make Kirito look more perfect, the other players would never suffer a dude running around faster than sound, deflecting bullets with a sword, and owning everybody while he's at it. They would report him to the admins as a cheater of some sort, and if nothing happened, they would terminate their subscriptions and move to better games. Plus all the bad rep spread in (social) media damaging the game's reputation. You wouldn't tolerate such a thing in cod, bf, arma, or whatever gun fighting game you'd play. If these fellows tolerate it in GGO, it's only because they would all like to suck up to a god called Kirito.
Which is why I hope it won't be that easy for him and he'll need Sinon's help, for example.
if it has the same hit detection than BF4 than that won't be a problem, because only 3 bullets out of a full magazine will actually hit/be dangerous, hehBut this isn't a musket era game. There could easily be dozens of lines coming from a fully automatic gun. Multiply that if there are many opponents. It's easier for him to dodge or never to get shot at in the first place.
to be fair, I can't convert my Mass Effect Character to BF3/CoD and own everyone with Adrenaline Rush... but in every game made from the "World Seed", I can.you wouldn't tolerate such a thing in cod, bf, arma, or whatever gun fighting game you'd play.
It's pretty much cheating from the start and this show doesn't even try to hide it.
I can't even blame Kirito for doing this, because he didn't join that game to have "fun" but to solve something more important. (The goverment is obviously way to stupid to handle things on their own... like visiting Death Gun's home or something like that)
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That's very true. I wouldn't blame him either, and he probably doesn't care if he gains some kind of notorious reputation either (as long as he doesn't get banned) because the sooner he gets dangerous enough to meet Death Gun, the better it's for his mission. In the end it's also far too early to say just how big of a boost he inherited from ALO here. We haven't even seen a single fight yet (the cowboy robot doesn't count). Maybe he will never act like a jedi but in a more believable manner using the prediction lines to deflect a few bullets but mainly stealth, cover, and speed to get close enough.
sadly knife-running has been valid tactic in cod since MW2.
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Obviously they don't know who Death Gun is.
Again, none of those games have monsters or lasers or force fields in them. You continue making this argument, and it continues to be retarded.
This game isn't Modern Warfare, and it sure as shit isn't ARMA. It's Halo with RPG elements(which makes it Destiny I guess).
Well, I guess that's fair. It's not like anime is full of samurai-type characters cutting through bullets or anything.
Oh wait...
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And this is relevant how? This game isn't a Star Wars game either, like Bill said up there, so it shouldn't have supermen with light sabers. The monsters don't mean shit in this case. The beam weapons are properly handicapped. If 99.9% of players consider the light sabers to be fancy toys of no real combat relevance (though most likely handy in a really tigh spot if you want to drag one around), then it's kind of statistically safe to say that's how the game has been built. Or would be if the author knew the first thing about game development. If you try to cater to every taste, you end up satisfying nobody.
Except it DOES, so that means it IS. The game IS the genre that is is. You thinking the game is something that it's not and then saying "It shouldn't have this because this other game that it's nothing like wouldn't have it" is fucking dumb.
The game HAS light sabers that can block projectiles, so obviously it IS like a fucking Star Wars game. The game DOESN'T have realistic shooting, or damage modeling, or mechanics, so it's NOT like a CoD game, no matter how much you keep saying that it is.
Fact is, you were WRONG about what kind of game it was from the very start, but you refuse to shift your point of view away from your original wrong impression.
Kirito even called it a fucking Cyberpunk game this week. So basically, it's a Ghost in the Shell setting more than anything. You know, the series where characters block bullets with other BULLETS, nevermind fucking swords.
This argument is just as dumb. As if there were no games in existence that didn't have suboptimal game design. Somehow, an MMO with a useless weapon type is somehow unbelievable? Have you ever PLAYED a fucking MMO before? And do you know how many garbage ones there are in the world? Who the hell ever said that GGO had flawless game design?
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sun, 07-27-2014 at 03:35 PM.
Yeah Kraco in all seriousness I don't really understand how you don't understand this. It seems like a really basic concept. No flaming intended honestly, but I'm really questioning whether you've been drunk every time you watch this series. It just seems really unbelievably stupid to compare a game that is obviously nothing like CoD to CoD, and say that it obviously isn't like Halo and Star Wars, when it obviously is... In fact, in the right context, I think it would be reasonable to assume you're either trolling or inebriated. Like this really isn't that complicated, I'm not sure why you're making it seem like it is.
Sinon's first sniping shot in the only fight we have seen (the monster fiasco doesn't count) was like one of my better shots in Arma. Seemed pretty realistic in many ways, provided she's a levelled up sniper (since it's also an RPG that ought to allow such skill ups).
But you are right in the sense that I'm basing a lot on nothing but my opinions and first impressions. And so are you because this show is starting slower than Nanoha Strikers with absolutely nothing worthwhile to judge so far. We simply haven't seen enough yet, especially not a single fight from Kirito.
I don't know why I need to repeat this but according to Sinon, who's apparently an elite player, nobody uses the light sabers and they play little role in the game. Since I'm a Star Wars fan, you won't ever catch me calling them garbage weapons, but according to Sinon most GGO players must view them as expensive toys. I'm not sure what sort of Star Wars games you have been playing if you are under an impression they are useless in SW games, but Governor Tarkin would have commended you.
To put it in simpler words: It's not an SW game if every other player isn't carrying a light saber. Or in reverse: If every other player isn't carrying a light saber, they aren't worth it in the game. Yet suddenly they will be worth it if Kirito decides to use one.
Well, let's see. X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Dark Forces, Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron, Pod Racer, Bounty Hunter. Games where you do even use Light Sabers.
Or maybe you want to limit it to RPGs and MMOs. Like Knights of the Old Rebublic, Galaxies, or The Old Republic. Where there are as many characters/classes that don't use lightsabers as there are that do, if not more.
Galaxies is a particularly apt comparison, because almost nobody had a light saber early on, 99% of players didn't use light sabers. Was it because they sucked? No, it was because nobody had the skill to use one(because becoming a Jedi was a retarded series of quests instead of a class you chose).
A similar situation could be in play here. Where light sabers are awesome, but only if you have the skills necessary to use one at a high level. And nobody uses one enough to GET those high skills because, as you said, it's a shooting game. But Kirito is entering the game with insane levels of sword skills, so that's not an issue for him.
It's like starting the game with a level 90 character in an insanely niche build that is useless for the first 80 levels. Nobody wants to spend 80 levels getting mowed down to get to the point where it starts getting good.
That sounds quite plausible. Though I still maintain my opinion that it wouldn't make the old players who levelled up in GGO using guns any happier if somebody suddenly transferred in from a different kind of game and started owning everybody with a sword. In the end they should and would be unaccustomed to fighting a master swordsman, but somehow I doubt Kirito would be as unaccustomed to fighting gunslingers as he should be (because he's Kirito). The cowboy robot already showed it's as if he had played the game for 600 hours already despite not knowing enough of it to fill the backside of a dvd case.
I'm aware of that... and thats the very problem.Obviously they don't know who Death Gun is.
you'd think that the police/goverment has its ways, you know.... and a gaming company that distributes and runs games in different countries with an unknown adress/e-mail/phone number? nah..
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