Sword Art Online

[MasterOfMoogles]

Kirito randomly raising money was also weird since he was dissatisfied with the cash he had when he tried to buy a sword before the trip. Raising that amount from doing a little walking is also BS.

But whatever. I wonder how much time is left until Asuna gets married off.

(edit: just to add some more to that "???" list, Yui has used the term "Papa" a lot already. It makes no sense that Leafa wouldn't have enquired about who "Mama" is)

I don't think Kirito was dissatisfied with his amount of money, but instead confused. This episode made clear he had a ton of money.

Hasn't it only been like a day or 2 since he met the guy at the hospital? I think he still has a decent amount of time left.

If Yui was just an AI pixie that was programmed to call its master "Papa", why would there be a "Mama"? That doesn't really follow at all. Leafa is obviously confused by Yui, but she doesn't seem to consider it is some super advanced AI. She's too busy focusing on Kirito himself.

Someone just explain to me why this Salamander guy exploded in a huge fireball when he died, as opposed to how everyone else Kirito has killed so far just turns into a flickering flame normally.

He seemed to have some kind of reactive explosion type ability he used the first time he was getting owned.
But the real answer is probably just that it looked cool.

I was pretty impressed with the aerial battle this episode. Hopefully we get some more cool battles.

[Buffalobiian]

If Yui was just an AI pixie that was programmed to call its master "Papa", why would there be a "Mama"? That doesn't really follow at all. Leafa is obviously confused by Yui, but she doesn't seem to consider it is some super advanced AI.

Except Yui specifically mentioned "cheating", to which you'd ask "cheating from whom?"

[MasterOfMoogles]

True. She seems to be more preoccupied with her Kirito-lust, though.

[shinta|hikari]

Maybe Leafa already has a hint that whoever Kirito is looking for is Mama.

I like Sugu far more than Asuna, Can't we have a pairing switch?

[Shadow Skill]

I thought that was the other guy skill he used again at the last second before Kirito owned him. That explosion fire skill.

As for the Gold, I thought the Gold carried over with his stats and the AI from SAO.

As for cheating, his heart rate increased when the 2 girls pressed up against him. So she said he not suppose to be cheating, on Momma. :P

What I don't get is, he had a hard time against the Mages and yet he owned the 2nd strongest Salamander in the game with ease. Despite the levels, cause clearly his level 78 carried over. That would mean he is twice the levels of everyone else in Alfeim?

Plus everyone keeps saying Kirito has crappy gear and he's owning everything in sight. If that's the case, why doesnt he upgrade to better gear and really dominate the game? A main armor, plus some Sub gears, Boots, gauntlets, bracelets, etc etc. Depending on the game you play. Rings with regeneration stats, etc etc.

Clearly he is under equipped but still a power house. Maybe that's the final episode, he gets the best gear and saves Asuna. :P

[shinta|hikari]

There are no levels in ALO right? I thought only skills leveled up, and everyone had the same base stats excluding armor and weapons.

It was clearly mentioned in the show that ALO is a skill based game, not a grind fest. It is closer to 1st person shooters than RPGs in terms of combat.

And Kirito wasn't level 78 when he completed SAO.

[Kraco]

There are no levels in ALO right? I thought only skills leveled up, and everyone had the same base stats excluding armor and weapons.

It was clearly mentioned in the show that ALO is a skill based game, not a grind fest. It is closer to 1st person shooters than RPGs in terms of combat.

And Kirito wasn't level 78 when he completed SAO.

Disregarding the level, which is basically only a number without much inherent meaning, what you are saying is the total opposite of others, who maintain the game has no skills (that would, for example, finish sword attacks for you), but it has stats that make your faster or stronger (which would explain perfectly Kirito's haxor superiority). The magic, for example, requires the player to memorize the words to be quick enough in combat. That in itself means there's no aiding skill, but likely there's a stat derivative in the form of a growing mana pool, I'd imagine.

[Buffalobiian]

Disregarding the level, which is basically only a number without much inherent meaning, what you are saying is the total opposite of others, who maintain the game has no skills (that would, for example, finish sword attacks for you), but it has stats that make your faster or stronger (which would explain perfectly Kirito's haxor superiority). The magic, for example, requires the player to memorize the words to be quick enough in combat. That in itself means there's no aiding skill, but likely there's a stat derivative in the form of a growing mana pool, I'd imagine.

ALF has skill points. The more you use a skill, the more that skill increases. They never specified how the increased skill proficiency helps you out - whether it simply adds to your damage and speed.. or something more active (for example, in terms of magic perhaps the higher your skill the less words you have to chant to use the same spell).

While Kirito isn't lvl78 (or whatever it is), his skill points are the ones carried over. In SAO, I would imagine that whenever you gain a level you gain points to allocate into the skills of your choice. In ALF, you have to earn those through usage - Kirito got a headstart though.

Still, the fact that Kirito beat the guy with shitty weapons/armour is pretty BS. Those mages would have killed him had it not been for Leafa's healing. In SAO it was emphasised that besides having a ridiculously high level, Kirito also had a ridiculous drop to go with it. It's a lot harder to believe that Kirito should have won this fight without a good sword.

I like Sugu far more than Asuna, Can't we have a pairing switch?

If only we could..

As for the Gold, I thought the Gold carried over with his stats and the AI from SAO.

Kirito was clearly dissatisfied at the "Yuld" he had in episode 18, 5:33. But logically, if he had the money there's no way he wouldn't get better gear. He's out to save Asuna after all. Kirito doesn't sound like the guy to go under-prepared in a video game.

[Shadow Skill]

Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense like that. I didnt even think that way about how they raise stats or how they are awarded lol.

[Kraco]

Hmm... So, it has skills, but you have to practice those in earnest to... what? Do they increase a damage multiplier? The same effect would be perfectly achievable through stats. Does that mean there are no stats? Kirito clearly shows superhuman speed right off the bat, which does indicate a high speed (whatever the name) attribute, not a skill. Or did the author ever even bother to think about it all?

Pretty confusing, but whatever the case, Kirito did bring over from SAO such stats/skills that only a fool would challenge him to a sword fight. SAO was all about melee fights, whereas Alfheim obviously heavily temps to use magic, yet Alfheim was built using SAO's engine, so there's no particular reason the obvious sloppy coders would have touched too much the melee parts. That means only somebody who would have paid no attention to magic at all during his time in Alfheim would be anywhere close to Kirito. I consider that somewhat unlikely, especially among real gamer prodigys (such as Kirito is made to be by this show). So, winning the carelessly arrogant Salamander dude wasn't such a huge stretch, especially if the damage multiplier favours skill (since there apparently are such, after all) and not whatever material the sword is made of or any magical bonuses in it.

[Inazuma]

Well SAO has shown broken Game Theory logic since the beginning - it plays like a MMO Action JRPG and leveling works like Morrowindish's xp system. (which ended up in player bunny hopping around the maps for increased stats )

[Ryllharu]

Kirito was clearly dissatisfied at the "Yuld" he had in episode 18, 5:33. But logically, if he had the money there's no way he wouldn't get better gear. He's out to save Asuna after all. Kirito doesn't sound like the guy to go under-prepared in a video game.

It didn't look like a "dissatisfied" reaction. I took as more of an "Oh crap, I have the absurd amount of money I had in SAO." It was more about being worried he'd be identified as a cheater. If he gets banned by a GM, or noticed by Oberon/douchebag, he's done. At least that's the way I took it. I felt the recent episode confirmed that when he dropped the enormous bag of the stuff on the two leaders. Just beating that one guy wouldn't have given him the funds to build an army of his own. The Cait Sith leader was stunned at the quantity of what was inside.

If the stats are the same values between the two games, and custom items (Yui's soul) have the same value, money very likely has the same values. Probably all hex codes.

[MasterOfMoogles]

It is a shame they don't go into the details of how everything works in the anime, though maybe that would be pretty boring to watch if they just explained everything. There's probably a way to make it good, but the lazy approach is to just show the action and let anyone who cares about how the systems work to go read the novels.

[KrayZ33]

I don't mind them not explaining stuff, I do hate it though that his sister doesn't even bother to ask where he got all that money from even though Kirito doesn't know shit about the game and doesn't even try to hide it

no matter how you look at it, for her it must seem like she is playing with a cheater/hacker and she doesn't even care
"as long as he is in my team, he can do whatever he wants"

[Kraco]

I don't mind them not explaining stuff, I do hate it though that his sister doesn't even bother to ask where he got all that money from even though he doesn't know shit about the game

no matter how you look at it, for her it must seem like she is playing with a cheating/hacking player and she doesn't even care
"as long as he is in my team, he can do whatever he wants"

It's enough for her as long as she gets wet in his company. Hasn't that much been made obvious? Kirito is a pussy magnet and nobody ever asks any questions.

[MasterOfMoogles]

She barely knew anything about games before playing ALO, so it doesn't seem that surprising that she's just like, "Wow, this guy is amazing" vs. "He must be a haxor"

[Buffalobiian]

Hmm... So, it has skills, but you have to practice those in earnest to... what? Do they increase a damage multiplier? The same effect would be perfectly achievable through stats. Does that mean there are no stats? Kirito clearly shows superhuman speed right off the bat, which does indicate a high speed (whatever the name) attribute, not a skill. Or did the author ever even bother to think about it all?

There are certainly stats, just no overall player levels. It was commented this episode that the general had to have +950 in 2-Hand to even use the sword, so skill points also empower players in areas outside of sheer ratings (more than just dmg,hp etc)

@Ryll: I suppose that's the only reasonable explanation behind all that money. But didn't Kirito said he was poor after he bought that house with Asuna?

[MasterOfMoogles]

Kirito beat the final boss in the game, maybe he had some loots on him?

[Kraco]

Episode 21 - HS




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So, unethical scientists like to use tentacle monster avatars. Nothing is better for molesting girls, so it makes perfect sense.

I bet the next time Asuna won't hesitate before pressing the button.

[MFauli]

Tentacle Rape

A truly incompetent admin (I was sure he had intentionally let her escape. Apparently, she truly escaped against this fool´s will)

WTF @ hesitating to push "log out"?! These tentacles would have never reached her, had she just pushed down on the button. Wow, did that make me angry.


And nothing really happened. Only cool scene: Kirito taking off into the sky at the end, ignoring the knowledge about not being able to reach Asuna that way.