Movie: Man of Steel

[shinta|hikari]

You referenced a lot of stuff that was not shown in the movie, like super healing. How was I supposed to know they were actually wounded by the crashes and dirtied by all that dust and debris, but those were simply healed and cleaned in the instant they weren't shown onscreen? I know Superman has super healing, but they did change a lot of his powers in this film.

I know the brain has no pain receptors. If you read my post, I was talking about damage. Not your brain itself feeling pain or being KOd, just simple damage. You see, when I saw them getting up again and again as if nothing was hurting them, I actually assumed that they were not being hurt. I did not know they were actually getting battered but healing and tidying up off screen.

Kal's power in the film seemed to show significant growth since the oil rig incident. He even managed to break the alien machine that was using gravity to smash a city (from within the gravity beam!). Sure he had incredible trouble at first, but then he shouted.

I maintain that since the steel beam is less durable and softer than the aliens, it should not be able to hurt them. It may allow for a faster attack (more forceful, but not really easier to land because it requires wind up and is more predictable) and better range, which are all good, but hitting enemies with pillows really fast from far away is still hitting enemies with pillows. However, I said all that with the assumption that they were not being hurt or damaged by the impact. If as you say they were actually being invisibly damaged, then the steel beam would actually be a bat than a pillow/baguette, and is a decent weapon of choice.

I am not a superman fan, nor do I know much about his history and changes to his powers. This means that my understanding of the events of the movie will differ from fans, and that is probably where our opinions diverge.

[darkshadow]

You referenced a lot of stuff that was not shown in the movie, like super healing. How was I supposed to know they were actually wounded by the crashes and dirtied by all that dust and debris, but those were simply healed and cleaned in the instant they weren't shown onscreen? I know Superman has super healing, but they did change a lot of his powers in this film.

Dirt maybe, but their wounds/bruises simply heal up much faster than us feeble humans can see.
And they really didn't change any of his powers, he only lacks his freeze breath, but other than that his strength is very much in line with many of his comic book and animated incarnations

I know the brain has no pain receptors. If you read my post, I was talking about damage. Not your brain itself feeling pain or being KOd, just simple damage. You see, when I saw them getting up again and again as if nothing was hurting them, I actually assumed that they were not being hurt. I did not know they were actually getting battered but healing and tidying up off screen.

Kal's power in the film seemed to show significant growth since the oil rig incident. He even managed to break the alien machine that was using gravity to smash a city (from within the gravity beam!). Sure he had incredible trouble at first, but then he shouted.

They heal quickly but high forces still damage them enough to get them winded/KO several times throughout the movie; the coolest character in the movie Faora even goes KO from a missle explosion, prior to that supes actually gets winded from flying through all those structures and exploding gas station, and when he gets double teamed, Faora and the big guy even KO him again for a couple seconds.
You can also hear all of them grunt in pain in several instances, supes even screams in pain when he grinds his face in that building right before Zod gets heat vision.

With the gravity machine, supes went beyond his limits, which harkens back to Jor-El's words of him having to push himself.
After he destroys it you can actually see him reaching for sunlight because that shit pretty much drained him. The flight itself is also a form of anti-gravity, he wasn't actually pushing against the machine with just his muscle like with the oil-rig.
So yeah all of the kryptionians get pretty fucked up throughout the fights, enough so even that their healing can't keep up with still feeling pain or going KO.

If as you say they were actually being invisibly damaged, then the steel beam would actually be a bat than a pillow/baguette, and is a decent weapon of choice.

It is as I say obv.


Also someone made a point about the family just standing their while Zod was trying to kill them, not true, they were very visibly boxed in; on the left there was Heat vision and on the right there was a wall and rubble, they had nowhere to go.