Katie Holme's Rachel > Maggie Gyllenhaal's by a wide margin. Part of the problem is that Katie is quite hot, and Maggie is quite meh. They should've gotten a hotter actress, and the change wouldn't have been as drastic.
Katie Holme's Rachel > Maggie Gyllenhaal's by a wide margin. Part of the problem is that Katie is quite hot, and Maggie is quite meh. They should've gotten a hotter actress, and the change wouldn't have been as drastic.
Definitely a large factor in the disparity between the two Dawes was their relative hotness. I didn't feel chemistry between Bruce and Rachel in the second movie, though to be fair there wasn't much time or room for it. But the few scenes where it was necessary, it wasn't there. I can't imagine Bruce choosing to save Harvey over Katie Dawes... but that might just be me projecting.Originally Posted by Munsu
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Bruce intended on saving Rachel rather than Harvey, the Joker lied to him when he explained which hostage was where.
Is that right? I thought he decided to save the city (by saving Dent) instead of his love. I'll watch it again to be sure.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Yep, he went to save Rachel and left the police to go after Dent. But Joker gave him the wrong addresses.
Well that sucks. Still, Katie Dawes is much hotter and worth saving than Maggie Dawes.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Oh man, that's great.
Hahah that is awesome. I'm surprised that Christian Bale contractually prohibited Robin in any of his Batman movies, but allows Catwoman in the third movie. Also, a Batman movie based on the "Death of Robin" story arc would be pretty amazing... but would require the introduction of the Robin character.
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“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Probably because there's hardly any way to introduce the character to the setting without it feeling cartoony.
Or it could be dark and tragic... like Batman could save an orphan kid from some bloody carnage and adopt him and train him. It wouldn't have to be cartoony like adopting him after seeing his parents die at the circus. It could easily be as dark and moody as the rest of the new Batman movies. It would be tough to fit all that into the movie as well as the boy's death though.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
As much as it pains me to say, I hope they retire the series for at least a decade. Unless by some grace of the gods that bring Nolan and Bale into a 4th installment.
batgirl?
I can't see them topping this iteration. The direction, stories, acting, special effects, everything is top notch. And they already covered the best villains from the Batman universe.
If they do future Batman movies, I think it will be similar to the recent Spiderman reboot... a re-envisioning that changes the core elements of the story as we know and love them, when the previous movies did a great job already (1 and 2).
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I don't think she'd be reason enough to bring Nolan and Bale back for another movie.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Good job editing your post.
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
I watched both Nolan/Bale Batman movies this week. Looking forward to the new one.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
yeah I thought I somehow avoided all the spoilers online till I came to the one place I thought was a haven only to be fuckd in the face by animeniax. but he just got catwomans messed up with batgirls i supposed.
and yo 'meniax the spidey movies (1-2 of course) were amazing to me in their day. But they just don't hold up after the allure of actual seeing spiderman in live action fades away. The costumes resemble power rangers, and everythings so brightly lit its as tho the entire world takes place 5 feet from the sun. Sam Raimi's direction wasn't terrible, at times I enjoyed it like when Doc Oc was ominously climbing Harry's building. But overall the directing was too over the top and encroaching on the rest of the elements. Its like he wanted it to be first and foremost a sam raimi film and THEN to be spiderman.
Tobey was good for what he was told to do.... which was a fly on the wall shy dorky personality. Which wasn't terrible, but it isnt what you think of when you think spiderman. AND they spent way too much time on fucking mary jane watson. I love the way they put Gwen Stacey into the actual plot instead of just "get kidnapped, get saved, get kissed, fucking hell, really?"
oh and alex garfield is now the definitive spiderman.
The latest Spiderman movie was shit. But thats for another thread. There will be no 4th installment, Nolan said this is the last and he meant it. Although, he is producer of Superman: Man of Steel, and there are rumors that he will be (a) producer of the next reboot of Batman. DC probably will make a movie if they ever hope to tie in a Justice League movie, although I think they should see how Superman pans out, and if successful then reboot Batman and Green Lantern.
Different eras man. Maguire's Peter Parker is more like the original Parker, nerdy and awkward. His portrayal in the first half of the second movie where he gets walked all over is perfect and very much the Parker from the original comics. Andy Garfield's Peter is how they changed the character to be more hipster/contemporary in the 2000s.
I thought the first 2 movies really captured the comic book feel with the bright colors and over-the-top action sequences.
Haha my bad. It was a typo, not a spoiler. I think Batgirl would be as bad as Robin in this movie Batman universe.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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