Jormungand

[shinta|hikari]

Why not compare both separately, then together?

[Buffalobiian]

I haven't got the ep on me to check bust size, but I'd say Chiquita beats Valmet. Overall she seems to have more experience and fights a bit more tactically. Assuming she uses her sidearm without losing proficiency with her knife means she's got an advantage over Valmet.

I'd say what Valmet is to Chiquita is like what Lutz is to Lehm, but with a much closer gap. I'd prbably say Valmet is the faster if you're talking about raw speed.

[Ryllharu]

Lehm is a precision sniper, Valmet is a CQC specialist, while Chiquita is a blitzkrieger. Chiquita is more well rounded in terms of combat ability than anyone on Koko's squad, which is largely the difference in their two bodyguard squads.

Kasper's is a much smaller, focused group of extremely skilled operatives, while Koko's is built up of specialists and redundancies. Her group is obviously up to no good when seen by the authorities especially with Valmet's build and Jonah (and Wilee when they are in Asia, but that's Kasper's territory), while Kasper's generates a lot less attention. On the other hand, Koko's force is a lot more capable at larger actions or wiping out the opposition, while Kasper's can only make assassination strikes or leave the area.

Each has their benefits, but the interesting thing is what it says about the two siblings. Kasper exudes confidence, casualness, a slight air of untouchability, but aloofness and even a little overconfidence. Koko ends up giving off her insecurity (big group and many backups), her hidden loneliness (big surrogate family), but a good eye for talent.

If you want to talk Chiquita versus Valmet, Valmet is slightly larger in the chest, but she's larger overall, so it makes them look smaller. In terms of combat ability, I would say that Valmet could kill Chiquita if she got in close, but Chiquita would never let her get there. That's because Valmet really is that good with her specialty. Chiquita used similar tactics here that Valmet used against Karen, but it wasn't as fluid (at least what they have shown us of her attacks). Chiquita doesn't seem the type to ever take risks and assesses her foes quickly. She wouldn't let Valmet get there, nor would she be shaken by Valmet's closing dashes, the kind that Valmet destroys people with, and even led to the moderately-experienced CQC Karen's undoing.

edit: I should have been clearer in stating that Koko's insecurities are about losing anyone. She values the lives of her big squad family more than her own, though she is afraid about losing her own life, as we saw in the recent episodes and Hex's attack. The backups are less for her safety, and more for the safety of the other squad members.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 18

[Buffalobiian]

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Well that was ... pointless?

[Inazuma]

You expect a new villain - you get backstorry for a support character.
Nevertheless it was good enough.

[Ryllharu]

Well that was ... pointless?

I wouldn't say it was pointless. Hino had them playing to his tune the entire time. Even when they thought they could finish them off, he sneaks in his daughter right in front of them. No matter if Koko wanted to kill him or not, she couldn't. Not murder a girl's father in front of Jonah. She'd lose him, her safety net, and go berserk. They can't finish him off, and they didn't lose anyone, so there's no reason to fight. His organization got destroyed as part of their own wish, so Kasper is happy that he's got his business back.

This is the first time we've seen Koko and Kasper get strategically outmatched so severely. He took away their will to fight.

[Buffalobiian]

You expect a new villain - you get backstorry for a support character.
Nevertheless it was good enough.

I meant the SR squad's fight, not the arc.

I get that Hino let his squad do it because they wanted to, I just don't see why they wanted to. Did they hate Tojo that much that they purposefully picked a fight with HCLI in order to have a chance to take him out? I would have thought that for someone to be part of the SR squad for years doing all the dirty work, they'd have to be patriots like Hex.

[Ryllharu]

I took the reasoning to be that they were a covert assassination squad...who had spent the last several years just selling guns and pretending to be business people, not fighting at all. From the flashbacks, most of them were monsters, particularly that woman.

Tojo and Hino were probably the only two who didn't prefer fighting.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 19

[Ryllharu]

That was a really enjoyable episode. Especially the punchline before the credits/OP. The non-flashback parts of the episode were a nice jab at the bored asshole PMCs in Iraq.

Not that animation is always consistent, but this episode made it clear that Chiquita is bigger than Valmet (that hoodie at 14:07 :3). What I really want to know now though, is why Chiquita used to work for Koko, and switched to Kasper.

[Buffalobiian]

That was a really enjoyable episode. Especially the punchline before the credits/OP. The non-flashback parts of the episode were a nice jab at the bored asshole PMCs in Iraq.

Not that animation is always consistent, but this episode made it clear that Chiquita is bigger than Valmet (that hoodie at 14:07 :3). What I really want to know now though, is why Chiquita used to work for Koko, and switched to Kasper.

Yep, brilliant Wiley episode. The entire flashback just made the entire thing all the crazier. (Hai! Mushimushi? xD)

As for Chiquita, I think we all assumed that Koko debutted after Kasper. Was it ever expressly stated that he was trading first? It's unlikely, but possible.

Otherwise, a possible explanation would be that Koko debuted when her dad retired from the scene, so he gave her his bodyguards (Kasper debutted before and has his own already). Chiquita and Lehm divorced (again) and she requested a transfer.

[Inazuma]

Magnifique ! Bravo !

I tend to just hate flashbacks because they are just an easy way to get a character some depth without the trouble of weaving his story in the main plot but Jormungand got it right.

I really hope for a second season now.

[Archangel]

You mean third.

I like how they're exploring the crew's past, i just hope this isn't all one huge death flag. The action was much less painful than last episode as well.

[Inazuma]

GG Jormungand Episode 20

The superweapon's true specifications are released.
Do not miss this Cia, boobs, brawling and intrigue guaranteed.

[Ryllharu]

I love how Mrs. Trohovski can read Koko better than anyone else. She hasn't shown up or interacted with Koko since their last dispute (where Koko had to work double-overtime to beat her), but the moment they meet up, Trohovski presses Koko about her bigger, secret plans for the satellite network...and wants in at any cost.

The only other people who even realize that she and the doctor are up to something big is Jonah and Bookman (and him only because Koko used it to overkill Hex). The rest of Koko's detail might suspect, but they don't seem to care.

She should not be underestimated. I'd like to think that Trohovski is Koko's true rival (or would be if she merges with HCLI). Her ability to read other people is unparalleled, and it's natural to her.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 21

[Inazuma]

Jormungand 22

Brace yourselves - Ninjas everywhere !

Edit : Oh my ...

[shinta|hikari]

I really cannot blame Jonah for pointing his thing at Koko in those two instances this episode.

[Xelbair]

When I've heard the number of people who would die due to activation of Jormungand the first thing that I've thought was "only this much?"...