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    This anime feels under appreciated. I watched it - all 12 episode and the season preview.
    Everyone ! Get this now.

    And yes the Season 2 Preview is here.
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    gg - Episode 13 (aka Perfect Order episode 01)

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    Thank you Buff it was nearly as good as sex with chocolate Scarlett J

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    I'm glad Karen found a new home, though in the long run, she might have been better off if Valmet had killed her. If Koko is loco, Dr. Minami is the physical manifestation of lunacy.

    Loving Hex as the new villain. In the OP, I thought she was the no-panties Chinatsu somehow returned to life, but a crazy CIA agent that even Koko won't mess with if given the option to run is even better. I wonder if Koko will be able to leverage Schokolade and Scarecrow against her. Of course, the fact that she's voiced by Hisakawa Aya (Sailor Mercury!) only makes her that much creepier. I'm frankly surprised she didn't kill the guy she was seducing anyway, despite him being part of the operation to mess with Koko, one that Hex was deliberately left out of the loop on by the CIA.

    I enjoyed the discussion that since Koko last lost a member of her "family," replaced by the mole R (and apparently another mole too), she hasn't shown her real personality to anyone. Lehm and Valmet are probably the only two who know what the real Koko is like. The worst part is you never really know how much Koko knows. Who knows if she already knows she has traitors, because she never shows even her "family" what she is really like. It could just be an old mental scar and defense mechanism, but if Koko was that dumb to leave moles in her core team for this long, she would have been assassinated long ago by one of her more overt enemies, like Hex.

    Also happy to see the old movie star turned arms dealer Amalia made an appearance. I really liked her character, since she competes with Koko on a business and charismatic level, not one with deathtraps and militant force. Koko is refined enough to respond in kind, so the woman makes for a unorthodox opponent. The kind that can't be foiled that easily because she knows victories are in backroom deals as much as they are on battlefields, places Koko doesn't hold as much of an edge on.

    On the other hand, the new OP sucks compared to the old one. I was hoping for a new Kawada Mami song. We got another Yanagi Nagi ED song, but all we get is this bland mess for an OP.

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    Spin is easy to shake information from. I would think it's wise of Hex not to kill him so she continues to have inside information on the project.

    Too bad he didn't continue their meeting, but I can't blame him. If I was in his shoes, I would probably be scared limp in Hex's presence too.

    We got the feeling that Dr Miami was wacky last season, but I didn't quite get the feeling she was this insane until this episode. I'd say the reflective glasses and cigarette (along with the all-powerful smile) does the trick - Integra-fashion.

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    I never was a big fan of this series OP but Time to attack was brilliant and in the middle of the episode I actually heard french rap music in the background as the rocket launched.
    I'm liking Jormungand's OST quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    We got the feeling that Dr Miami was wacky last season, but I didn't quite get the feeling she was this insane until this episode. I'd say the reflective glasses and cigarette (along with the all-powerful smile) does the trick - Integra-fashion.
    I thought it was pretty easy to assume she wasn't quite sane last season. One stops being "quirky and eccentric" when random trips to look at butterflies or this or that are usually in warzones, but not as an excuse to do something else like sell weapons, the doctor legitimately is only interested in the butterflies or seashells.

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    Plan with GPS assistance system is total mess. DGPS(differential GPS) systems exist and they are widely used in transportation(EU has EGNOS, US has WAAS(better system, engos is total mess)) - they calculate offset of code gps measurements on sites, then satellite broadcasts the offset along with age of it. This sent offset is just approximation for very large area.
    also - there are more than 24 GPS satelites - it is just minimum number of them for system to operate.

    remember - GPS system uses one sided communication - you are not sending anything to satellites.


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    So they plan on screwing with Jonah to get to Koko. I hope he does not prove to be too much of a liability. Koko did not add him there for cosmetic or emotional purposes. He has to hold his own weight even if, or rather even more so when he becomes a target to damage his employer.

    Does Koko only show her fake personality even to Jonah? What would be the point? He is more loyal than a dog and is as innocent as a baby compared to the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    So they plan on screwing with Jonah to get to Koko. I hope he does not prove to be too much of a liability. Koko did not add him there for cosmetic or emotional purposes. He has to hold his own weight even if, or rather even more so when he becomes a target to damage his employer.

    Does Koko only show her fake personality even to Jonah? What would be the point? He is more loyal than a dog and is as innocent as a baby compared to the others.
    I would guess that she does it just out of completeness's sake. The OP suggests that Valmet, Lehm, Wiley and the dead guy (along with Chiqueta) may be the ones who she showed her true self around until the dead guy died.

    It's easier to put an iron wall around yourself entirely, than to remember to be selective about who and where you can expose your true nature (and get caught in the process). It's also more convincing, since you can say that your personality simply changed.

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    But it is also stifling. There is a limit on how much one can fake their personality. I was hoping that Jonah would at least be Koko's oasis, if nothing else.
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    Valmet and Lehm are the ones that Koko can be sure will never betray her, and probably only Valmet for sure. She can trust Jonah the least, first because he is the newest, and second because she knows he hates weapons and especially arms dealers (her own brother in particular). She likes him, and genuinely seems to want to convince him that arms dealers aren't inherently bad, but trust him? I don't think so.

    R was right, once Koko finds a traitor (any traitor), she'll kill them without giving them a chance to even say their final words. Actually, Valmet would probably do the killing, but the point stands.

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    Remember the little spat in the Balkans with the artillery and the plane? Or the drug dealers? Don't fuck with her business, try to intimidate her, try to change the terms of the deal after the fact, or force her to pick a side in a conflict. She's there to deal, and that's it. She doesn't play sides unless it gets everyone a better deal and makes HCLI more money. She'll help whoever is paying, she doesn't betray those who pay her, and she only takes money.

    Interfere, and she takes off her jester's mask and makes sure it won't be a problem in the future. Nobody on her team is safe if they decide to cross her. It was clear from that episode and this one that she learned these lessons the hard way. No one gets to see her weaknesses anymore.

    Even the CIA is a pain in her ass one week, and her happy customer the next. Make it a personal issue, and she'll call the next agent who won't have such qualms. That's why she doesn't like Hex, and why the CIA doesn't want Hex going near Koko.
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    Jonah betraying Koko is pretty much impossible at this point, and Koko probably knows that. I think rather than a lack of trust, Koko is afraid of showing her true self to Jonah because he may be disappointed or begin to dislike her due to what he sees. That is the usual reason for creating masks anyway, to protect yourself.
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    I wouldn't be so quick to say that. Jonah is still young, prone to feelings instead of reason. Koko could always end up doing something that could make him hate her as much as he hates her brother. Unlikely, yes, but impossible, no. As cold and as rational as he tends to act, we've seen him explode a few times already.

    Koko is unpredictable, and there is a lot more to the plan with the satellites that she and Dr. Minami have been working on than they are letting on. Something that has an awful lot of people curious and nervous. Something the two of them are keeping to themselves, not telling anyone else, in HCLI or even her core team.

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    I think it is precisely his emotional side that will prevent him from betraying Koko. He is already too attached to her.

    If he does ever start to hate Koko due to something she did, I don't think he will just stab her in the back. He will probably tell her about it then just leave the group. He will simply stop traveling with the arms dealer.
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    >Dat Hex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    >Dat Hex

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    That's because you weren't Spin.

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    Episode 14:

    Shit is about to get incredibly real, and I'm really quite curious to see how this will all go down.

    If R reveals his treachery but in doing so saves Jonah , will Koko forgive him? Maybe just fire him and sever all ties? Or will she kill him outright?

    Hex still doing great things for my penis, i hope she makes it through this all alive.

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    gg - Episode 14


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    If Karen was said to be the "unrealisticly built" paramilitary chick from last season, then Hex has to be the one for this season. I completely don't mind at all, but just saying that the way they're making her out to be such a good Spec Op candidate, her build should be something closer to Valmet's.
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    Depends on their fighting style really. Huge muscles can slow you down and reduce flexibility, so it has its ups and downs. Hex also uses her body to get information as seen in the previous episode. More slender types are preferable in such scenarios.

    Koko really is a softie inside. The death of one subordinate has affected her so much. The betrayal and the possible death of another might be enough to "kill" her, just like Hex plans. I am genuinely hoping it is Jonah (and his rapid growth under the tutelage of the others) who foils this plot.
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