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    Japan is a hugely superstitious country. If you put a shoe in their washing machine, they'll have to get a new washing machine because it's "dirty". No amount of immunoassay tests or disinfecting could tell them otherwise - and that's not to say they don't have faith in technology.

    Throw herd mentality (DUMB herd mentality) in there, and I see this as something that can really happen. Don't forget that we do have a real ghost stirring things up in the first place.

    I can't ever imagine myself being a dumb-ass herd person, partially because I'm so detached with everything that I actually won't give a shit enough to tip me over the edge. Another big part is my fatalist mentality (or perhaps it's just a glorified form of laziness) where I just say something can't be helped instead of deciding there must be a way out of something (and then imagining or coming up with a BS way).

    I will go ahead with herd mentality if I see it though, assuming that it's as powerful as the one we saw. The reason there is because there's nothing you can do to stop it (I'm not as optimistic as Teichi, or resourceful fortunate enough to have a barely-dressed Yuuko with me). If you kept insisting that they're wrong, they'll just come up with a BS reason to get rid of you.

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    So the story is finally making a move. I also have to gloat by saying that I was right. I'm not sure Kirie is correct though, since there are actually two Yuukos, not a split personality within the primary.

    I do like that the price Grudge Yuuko takes is her memories. She's allowed to keep being playful and happy, but at the cost of any memories associated with the negative emotions she finds ugly in herself. Yuuko wasn't too happy about giving up her jealously, because she realized what it would cost her, but by the time she did, it was already too late. Grudge Yuuko was inside her, stealing the memories and taking control.

    I would think the correct approach would be to merge the two once they force Genki-Yuuko to remember what really happened to her. Make Yuuko whole again. But I'm afraid they're going to spend time making Yuuko fall in love with Teiichi again. Kirie should be doing a lot of the legwork though, she's the one who should be able to get the most information from her family.

    I kinda wish Okonogi could see Yuuko though. That joke is starting to get a bit stale. But it's a nice touch, for someone so constantly wound up about thinking there are ghosts everywhere, subconsciously she firmly believes they can't possibly exist.

    Lastly, I love Yuuko's eyes when they glow pink.

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    I don't think Yuuko actually forgot him. She's faking it.

    Normally one can't claim that they forgot something unless they know they once remembered it in the first place. She wasn't all that cheerful like her past self anyway.

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    She said that because he knew her name, but she had no recollection, and she didn't want to be rude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    She said that because he knew her name, but she had no recollection, and she didn't want to be rude.
    I considered that too, but still had my doubts - especially how the animation had her eyes covered by shadows.

    I'm thinking Teiichi's broken the cycle A-Tale-Of-Memories style.

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    If Yuuko's denying herself so much she actually managed to create a separate second aspect of herself to host the denied feelings and memories, it wouldn't be too far out there for her to simply be afraid of admitting to recognize Teiichi, since she wouldn't know why she recognizes him. For a master of rejecting feelings and memories, it must be a ghastly feeling to realise she does in fact know someone without any threads attached to explain why. In that situation the natural reaction would be to deny everything, like Bill said, to strenghten her unfortunate habit.

    Although I'm not saying I share that belief. Time will tell.

    We are only 7 eps in out of 12, which makes me wonder how conclusive at all this can be. If this is supposed to be a mystery series, it'd be strange if we already knew or guessed correctly everything. Teiichi's deduction was grim and plausible enough, also explaining the huge burden of negative emotions, but to reveal that so soon makes me suspect it. It would be disappointing if rest of the show is only healing Yuuko and filling some details.

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    UTW-Underwater - Episode 08

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    Solving the amnesia in one episode feels a bit easy, but I wouldn't have wanted it dragging on either, so I guess this is for the best.
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    Decided to marathon this to the end, the shitty cop out ending made me wish i hadn't.

    I felt trolled as fuck, here i was thinking they'd end it with class... but no LOL ALL IS WELL CAN WE HAZ SEASON 2???! xD

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    I jumped on this show initially because of the promise of mystery behind it, but that became secondary. It was mainly Juicy-Yuuko-weekly that made me like the show more than anything else. The mystery was nice, but once we had the first memory wipe, I sort of tuned out.. it just wasn't as interesting anymore since it became redundant.. though arguably necessary.

    So I really couldn't ask for me when all's over and Yuuko was being juicy and cheery and sexy again. Then I teared up. I like it when things make me tear up. Just like the time another disappearing Yuuko did. (except that time was probably more intense, from memory).

    The "cop out" cheapened it more or less, but I'll still say it was nice to end on a happy note. Now Yuuko's liberated from her school-based regrets and must follow Teiichi around everywhere, just like how the first memory-wipe was required to offset the memories of Teiichi onto Shadow Yuuko so that Teiichi and her would be more connected later.

    Perhaps an alternative would have been a fast-forward where a 30 year old Teiichi walks around somewhere and meets a 16yo reincarnated Yuuko. Of the two endings, I'd prefer the one we just got.

    Can't see a second season.
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    I'm kinda tired of bittersweet endings to these kinds of series. It's gotten to the point where one expects an unhappy ending. I can't say I even got misty-eyed during the rather drawn out goodbye scene poolside or in the club room. I've become rather bored with those kinds of endings.

    It's not like Teiichi was going to get with Kirie as a replacement for Yuuko. That would be a disservice to them both.

    Happy ending works fine for me.

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    Bulshit! If you're going happy ending then go happy ending, don't have us all feel bad for the characters and then cop out at literally the last minute.

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    Just finished watching this, I teared up on that last episode. And yeah, I generally hate cop out endings, but I didn't hate this one so much because it was so short and non-integral to anything that I could simply excise it from my mind, which I'm choosing to do now. Her staying as a school bound ghost isn't a happy ending either in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barles
    Her staying as a school bound ghost isn't a happy ending either in my book.
    That's what I was referring to when I posted this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff
    Now Yuuko's liberated from her school-based regrets and must follow Teiichi around everywhere, just like how the first memory-wipe was required to offset the memories of Teiichi onto Shadow Yuuko so that Teiichi and her would be more connected later.
    I speculated that Yuuko (who was freed from her regret-bound self) returned because she desired to stay with Teiichi - and that differing reason meant she could step outside the bounds of the school.

    One could argue that she has to stay at school because that's where she died, but ^ was an idea that I had anyway.. since she wouldn't otherwise be able to stay with Teiichi "forever and ever" unless Teiichi chose to become a teacher there.

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    Explanation of the my previous post (for those interested) since it was poorly expressed:

    I rationalised that Yuuko leaving wasn't entirely wasted given that it was needed to release her school-bound status, in the same way that Yuuko's first memory loss of Teiichi wasn't completely useless because we needed to place memories of Teiichi into Shadow Yuuko in order to have more of an effect on her.

    In both cases, the story couldn't have gone through with skipping the "intermediate" step and have Yuuko:

    1) Final ep: stay around
    2) Ghost Fusions: convince Shadow Yuuko

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    I would have changed the final part of the ending to make it less of a cop out. In the final scene when Teiichi was saying that he will forget Yuuko, he could have cried out that he will never forget her and that he will never be happy without her after she disappears. Yuuko, after a few tense moments, reappears. surprised at how it happened herself. Then she realizes that she just gained another "regret" that won't let her rest in peace, which is simply that she is unable to let Teiichi suffer like he will.

    That would have been very similar to the ending we got, but feels less like a random resurrection.
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