Last edited by Marik; Thu, 02-09-2012 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Replaced Narutoverse's 249 with HorribleSubs'.
Maybe they just didn't notice it's two eps this week.Originally Posted by Marik
Anyway, Madara really robbed awesome parents from Naruto. The fights in these couple of episodes were excellent. I liked this a lot more than Third Hokage's death match. Hardly any standing around talking in parts where there shouldn't have been any. Only the very end showed some unlikely long talks considering how lethally wounded those two were, but since they were already doomed to die, it was okay.
Jolly good stuff, and I don't even like flashbacks. But what the hell was the preview promising? Can that even be canon? I hope it won't take the whole ep.
Awesome episodes.
1. So the 9-tails wasn't going berserk, he was straight up being controlled at the time. That's interesting.
2. Kushina...gaping holes in her stomach AND vagina at the same time...poor woman.
3. I don't like the visual effect on Minato's teleportation move. There's no "yellow flash" about it. It looks much cooler in the video games.
4. Ewww! Wtf is wrong with Madara's body?
5. Minato's plan seems....stupid. I'm gonna have Naruto grow up without a dad so that he can talk to his mom's ghost for 5 minutes later.
I know he gave a bunch of excuses about the balance of power and all that...but if he was really concerned that the 9-tails shouldn't die with Kushina, why didn't he just seal it inside himself?
6. Marik's avatar is...distracting...
God damn this was some good shit, awesome fighting parts, then some more emotional stuff towards the end, loved all of it.
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I thought he was Yellow flash because of teleporting and his hair colour.
I got the impression from their talks that if you "kill" (destroy might be a better term) Kyuubi, it will reappear soon after. So, sealing it with the death seal might have only resulted in what they were more afraid: It would soon return and this time with nobody to control it (or even worse, in evil hands). Perhaps sealing half of its power didn't trigger such a reaction plus made it possible for Naruto to endure the demon better.
I personally think the plan was sound and seemed very much like something Minato would do, though with as little as we know of him, I guess that's a shaky judgement at best. Nevertheless, to be Hokage at such a young age, he might have been full of will to protect the village. I doubt he could predict Naruto's shitty treatment at the hands of the villagers.
So why wouldn't he just seal it inside himself using the regular seal instead of the death seal and become the Jinchuuriki?
He lives. Naruto has a father. The village still has it's tailed beast. There's no reason he shouldn't have been able to do this.
He probably didn't have enough chakra to seal the full Kyuubi. Assume the dead demon seal uses only a little bit, but could reduced the Kyuubi's power in half. What Minato has left could have been just enough to seal what remained of the Kyuubi into Naruto.
Kushina was from the clan of sealing masters, not Minato. For all we know, he might not even have been able to seal it by ordinary means. It took a bunch of Akatsuki guys to pull a tailed demon from a jinchuuriki and transfer it into the statue. So, it might take a few people to seal a tailed beast normally. The death seal was obviously a haxor's way since it claims the user's very life.
All in all I very much doubt he'd have chosen to die if there was another way to ensure the village's safety and Kyuubi's imprisonment.
He said so himself that he was low on chakra. Also Kushina was going to kill the Kyuubi with her, but he would resurrected at a later date.
He had enough chakra to seal it inside Naruto, so clearly he had enough chakra to perform the jutsu. What difference does it make who he uses it on?
I think he was only able to seal it after he took away half with the death sealing jutsu... otherwise too much chakra.
Awesome double ep, I hope they don't mess up the pace again and keep up a few good eps..
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Awesome. I teared up as Kushina faded.
They outdid themselves translating these ones into animation.
Marik, whats your avatar's source material?? Point me in the direction of that doujin
Anyone else think it's weird that nobody seems to balk at the notion that the 4th gets to spend eternity in the Death God's stomach?
It's like when Kushina said, "Now I can finally go and be with Minato". Um, no you can't. You're presumably going to go wherever it is people go when they die in the Naruto universe. But Minato isn't going to be there waiting for you. That motherfucker is being Sarlaac'd.
I wonder if that will be a future arc. Naruto embarks on a spiritual quest to free his father from the Death God, and at the same time, reunite both halves of the 9-Tails.
I suppose that makes sense.
If Death God claims your life, don't you die? I'm not so sure there's any difference whatsoever. Even more so because Oro didn't live the rest of his bizarre life armless, only until he possessed another poor sod. So, rather than being held captive, his arms died due to being devoured by Death God. If the jutsu meant eternal imprisonment in a separate place, Minato could have sealed Kyuubi wholly with it, freeing the world entirely from its presence. But apparently that would have merely meant killing Kyuubi and thus only ensuring it reappears randomly later.
If that's the case, then it conflicts directly with what was stated before. They were pretty clear originally that the user and his target spend eternity being devoured by the Death God.
It's possible that the justsu that allows him to use the owners body as his own, also allowed him to use the owners soul as well.
Frankly, this part definitely feels like a bit of a retcon. We were told originally that the Death God Seal was the one used to seal the 9-tails. And while that's technically still true, we were led to believe it's what sealed it inside Naruto. Now there's TWO seals, each one used on half the 9-tails.
Honestly, it feels like Kishi created the badass Death God Seal, and then later realized, "Wait, if it drags you both into the Death God, the 9-tails would be dead, not inside Naruto. I better think up something else."
And I'd say if this is his biggest mistake in the entire series he came out in the black in my eyes.
What was that other writer's name.... the guy who made that pretty cool show that ended up spiraling into a world of deus ex machina?
Kubo or something? Yeah I'd say comparatively I can let this one slide and just go back to not trying to study it like a science. As long as it keeps consistent enough for me to not call bullshit every episode then I can love it all the same. Albeit thorough work is a more interesting work.... if it was something like Evangelion then I could see myself delving deep and wanting it to all be perfect. But its naruto, and so it is.
Well, I think he also makes a lot small poor choices in the ways certain powers work , when if he'd planned them out better beforehand, everything would be a little more intuitive.
But yes, on the whole, it's come out much better than Bleach.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sat, 02-11-2012 at 11:49 AM.
Well at least he is in good company. The third Sarlaac'd the 1st, 2nd and himself. Basically every Hokage except the 5th, who is still alive, has been Sarlacc'd. Sarlacc has good taste. Look out, 5th!
To be honest, Death God doesn't look tough enough to keep them all in store, especially if half of Kyuubi is in the mix as well. They must be flowing straight to their afterlife, despite having died using the seal.
Great episode, the animation when Kyuubi started to attack the village was cool. The fight between Minato and Madara was sick, his "Level 2 Hiraishin" was unreal, class move!
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