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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    The very last scene was a nice gesture too, making it a happy ending.
    Yeah, good for Kaito that Ichika is a lousy pilot.

    It was a nice ending all in all. While it went with the Asian you can't fight the system road, it still was romantic enough.

    Remon being at least MIB was expected. I was already wondering what happened to Rinon when Ichika alone was taken and the last time we saw the critter was it riding the swoop bike. Finding a new home at MIB wasn't a bad choice - until Ichika came back for it, anyway.

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    Iīd like to start this by admitting that, yes, I started watching this show expecting and, more importantly, wanting a more traditional "rabu rabu"-anime, just some quality romancing and stuff. So Iīm partly at fault here myself.

    Having that said: I didnīt like the ending, or rather, how the last two episodes concluded the story. The alien-stuff was just out of nowhere, even though we saw one of those drones earlier in an episode. You CAN make such a drastic, crass change in contents, but imo you cannot do that at the end of a story. That way everything prior to it feels cheapened and less relevant. If you introduce the big alien-event in ep 12, you have to go for another 12 episodes to make it feel right. Develop the plot from here on out. Make the aliens part of the Ichika-Kaito plot. Instead, we went from almost-typical romance to crazy-alien-chase at the very end of the whole anime.
    I donīt even want to mention Remon, because I hate it when little girls/boys are part of some serious organization as if it was something normal. Please, thereīs no logical reason why a young school girl would be part of the, lol, Men in Black. No comment on the MiB existing here, by the way. I had hoped they would just make Remon another alien ...

    Yeah, I wouldnīt recommend this series to anyone, because I feel its plot concludes in an inconsistent way and the actual meat of the series has a lot of talk about love, but not action or events that show the root of this so-called love. And then it leaves everyone but the main pairing unresolved. I donīt even understand whatīs Tetsuroīs problem. And thereīs a limit to how much you can lower your self-worth, dear Mio.
    Anyway, Iīd put this anime under "filler, if you have seen absolutely anything else".

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    So, what? You would have only accepted Ichika if she had come escorted by a fleet of Star Destroyers and during her stay on Earth the shadow of Death Star had been hanging next to the Moon? Come on, she's just a girl who somehow managed to get her hands on a small FTL craft and came to Earth without anybody knowing, drawn by the genetic memory. Unfortunately the distress beacon was triggered later and a rather big operation by her home planet was initiated to retrieve her. I might be biased because I liked this show (but then again, so are you because you disliked it), but that sounds perfectly reasonable to me. We knew from the beginning she was an alien.

    Ryll has been saying all the time Remon is a person from the times of the earlier alien "incursion" to Earth, so she's neither young nor inexperienced (despite very much looking that way). She's actual experience of these aliens, so she's far more qualified to be in MiB than most of the generic goons, I bet.

    But to each their own, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    So, what? You would have only accepted Ichika if she had come escorted by a fleet of Star Destroyers and during her stay on Earth the shadow of Death Star had been hanging next to the Moon?
    No. But I would have liked some more actual events over the course of the whole show. I cannot even remember anything other than the portion at the beach that they "did". Everything else was just pointlessly messing around, telling each other "I love you", "I dont love you" and so on. (fake-edit: Oh, there also was the festival, yeah)
    I just finished watching The World God Only Knows, and while this show has nothing in common thematically, I would have liked if Ano Natsu had more "action" events spread out over these 12 episodes like TWGOK did. By that I mean specific situations where something non-love related happens and we see the characters overcome this situation, thus resulting in character-development and futher bonding with each other. With 12 episodes, you could have had at least three proper, fleshed-out events (And to give an example: One event could have been Rinon going missing, or Remon getting an emergency mission where the others help without knowing about the MiB, or using Ichikaīs superios alien-technology to save a school festival from being ruined. And so on. Lots of options).
    Doing this, the alien stuff would have been better established, without interfering too much with the Ichika-Kaito relationship. And the ending wouldnīt have been such a stark contrast to all of the rest. I mean, to be fair, maybe thatīs what the producers went for: Going out with a bang. Thatīs their choice then, and it seems it wasnīt a bad one since you all liked it. I didnīt. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Ryll has been saying all the time Remon is a person from the times of the earlier alien "incursion" to Earth, so she's neither young nor inexperienced (despite very much looking that way). She's actual experience of these aliens, so she's far more qualified to be in MiB than most of the generic goons, I bet.
    I don't think Remon/Ichigo ever found out about that particular secret. It was the more mundane secret that everyone found out about. Whether she found out the big secret later, during the time period where she fixed up her sempai (Manami) and someone who would later become her subordinate, is anyone's guess.

    If MFauli wanted more blatant alien incursion stuff, then he should have watched Asobi ni Iku yo! instead, and as promising as that seemed, it wasn't as good as this was. Its finale wasn't that much different than the negatives he's painting this series with.

    I don't know where MFauli is getting the idea that the alien stuff came out of nowhere. Ichika killed Kaito crash-landing her spaceship in a river in the first 45 seconds, and then spent the rest of the first two episodes healing him with space technology, showing other people on occasion. Then the warping around to stalk him, having Rinon at all, her always freaking out about the MIB, etc. As MFauli said, the rescue drone did appear earlier, it appeared in episode 8, and she showed everyone her ship in episode 9. That left an entire quarter of the show left.

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    I wrote in the OP's description this show to be about a dude who wants to film a movie and in the middle of it a mysterious girl appears. And that this is comedy/romance. As far as I can tell, this story stuck to that 100%, not wandering off trying to incorporate alien stuff more than necessary during the bulk of it, let alone trying to serve secondary characters by having them rob any of the precious few episodes with stuff that has got nothing to do with the description. Sure they might have made the show more adventurous or even exciting, but it would have nonetheless been poor editing and writing. With the very ending of the final ep, the story went back to its roots: the movie, and thus concluded everything very smoothly, despite the goofy scenes of the folks being hunted by the rescue bots.

    If there is anything that didn't really belong or served dubious purposes, it's the MiB. Remon was needed in some form, I reckon, but the MiB stuff brought little essential onto the table. It was just some kind of a jab at Ichika's initial fear of the (imaginary) agency.

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    The MiB where TOTALLY needed.

    How else could you explain that a handful of alien rescue pods failed against a few 17 year olds?

    Or the fact that Ichika managed to come back despite failing to find solid proof to present to the governing bodies that Earth had alien contact prior to all this?

    The MiB needed to show up to take care of everything, then have Rinon come back with them to build a space-craft. For all we know, Ichika was taken back without her ship. Humans just needed to find it, understand it - then use it.

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    Regarding the End, the trace they were trying to find is the message from a former alien from Ichika's race (probably) crashlanding on earth years ago.
    She was taken back to her planet and brainwashed.

    both that message we heard and the message she wrote on the tree would not change anything regarding earth's status.
    After all, that first alien was on earth some years ago, probably less than 20 years ago (and overall it fits in with the Onegai Teacher/twins shows as pointed by Ryll, if I'm correct).
    Those events were properly managed by the galaxy entity and no trace of those events are enough to change earth's classification and help Ichika come back.
    So trying to find the place was utterly pointless from the start.

    But those past events probably led to the creation of Japan's MiB...

    Also the reason why Ichika comes back in a matter of weeks/months only is because those idiot aliens left Ichika's ship and Rinnon.
    They trully are dumb.
    With the ship alone, MiB would probably need lots of years to try and repair and then run Ichika's ship.
    But with the Ship and Rinnon, of course it's a lot easier to get it repaired, operate it and get Ichika back!

    Well, for the last part, I'm a little surprised a galaxy entity would change earth's class that quickly, even with some earthling coming to them...
    First they should easily understand Rinnon did all the job teaching how to repair the thing and create appropriate material/tooling.
    Second, a galaxy entity probably has its administrative delays... I can't see something that huge reacting under a year regardless of technology...
    So the problem is not Earth's classification, but rather how quickly things got Ichika's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    So the problem is not Earth's classification, but rather how quickly things got Ichika's way.
    Nah, Rinon sent a copy of the film to the Galactic entity, and it had all the politicians and bureaucrats in tears in no time. So, they made a special exception to allow her to come back.

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