I don't even know why I vote...
No matter what, either the incumbent, or the same party always wins each position up for a vote in my state.
I don't even know why I vote...
No matter what, either the incumbent, or the same party always wins each position up for a vote in my state.
Am I giving too much credence to what CNN's reporting? Because it looks like Romney is winning.
I wonder how much truth there is to the feeling that America is/was still not ready for a black president. This doesn't reflect my personal view, and Chris Matthews of MSNBC and others have suggested the racial element in the hate for President Obama. It sucks that Romney could win for no better reason.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I think a sizeable portion of the country hates the fact that we have a black president, but obviously not enough to keep Obama from becoming one.
In any case, Im getting the fuck out of New York and moving to Colorado!
Considering how close the popular vote is, their numbers are higher than they should be IMO.Originally Posted by Carnage
Don't move to CO just yet (though it's a lovely place regardless). There will be federal fights to squash the legalization of marijuana in Colorado.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
The result isn't even remotely surprising. In the last year or so, the GOP have somehow systematically piss off almost every group of voters who aren't hardcore conservative or rich white men. I'm not sure they understand that you don't win an election that is based off popularity votes by appealing to less people.
GOP will have to sell itself hard to either the gay/feminist vote or the hispanic vote. Their odds are probably best with the hispanic vote, since they're very religious and the GOP may sway them with a promise for jobs. It'll definitely have to cut out the evangelical bullshit if it wants to survive beyond the next election.
All of the attempts to appeal to conservatives successfully isolated a lot of women. If you look at the poll numbers, Obama was up like 40% in term of women voters. I think what essentially swayed this election was women and Hispanic voters.
donald trump's twitter (I have no reason to believe it's a fake one)
I really can't stress it enough, But I hate this guy.
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Currently Watching: probably a show directed at 9 years old girls, lets be honest.
You know the important distinction between Batman and me? Batman is fictional. In real life, there isn't always an alternative.
Obama! gay marriage legal in 3 states and marijuana in 1!
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Actually it's surprising how well Romney did considering the GOP's platform and his shadiness as a candidate. We should be shocked and reviled that almost 50% of the popular vote went to Romney, considering how many groups his platform alienates. In the end, Obama won on electoral votes, and not really on the popular vote.
To appeal to the Hispanic vote, the GOP will have to take a moderate position on illegal immigration, amnesty, and citizenship... all of which are opposed by a majority of conservatives and white males. With the way the country continues to change demographically, the GOP will have to change to a shadow of its former self to contend on a national level in the future. They can win local/state elections based on conservative voting blocks, but nationally they represent too little of the populace and its views.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
It pisses me off that our entire election is decided by 11 or so states. The electoral college is fine, but the "swing states" have far too much power.
The candidates ignore every other state.
As happy as I am that Obama won re-election, I'm not looking forward to another 4 years of Fox news, Trump, and conservative pundits talking shit and further trying to divide the country. Sometimes I long for the Republicans to be back in power, as that's when their pundits are quiet and disappear from the limelight.
That's only because the other states are already pretty much decided for one party or the other.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
FTFY, no need to thank me.
Please, lets not pretend they are bad on only one side.
America was and still is to a large extent a nation built from puritans, so it's not really surprising to see that Romney won most of the states that Republican are expected to win. There are a lot of people who simply vote base on party line and out of habit. For example, it's almost pointless for Dem to vote for national elections Texas because of the imbalance in party power. The same could be said for California and New york where Democrats are expected to win regardless.
The scary thing is that as bad as people make Romney out to be, he's still fairly moderate by the GOP standards.
Definitely didn't mean to infer it's one sided, but the Dem pundits weren't nearly as bad when Bush was in power as the Rep pundits were during Obama's first 4 years. And the message the Republican pundits put out just seems a lot more hateful.
I think some states vote along racial lines as much as anything else.
It's hard to say what Romney's stances are on issues because he's changed so many of them from the time he was a governor to the Republican primary to now. I was almost looking forward to him winning the presidency because he does seem like a moderate and he might be able to work with Congress to get things passed. Unfortunately Obama will have another 4 years of zero compromise from the Republicans in the House.
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“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
MSNBC was worse when Bush was in power than FoxNews is now. I take it you never watched Countdown with Keith Olbermann? It was a solid hour of him throwing insults at everyone in the GOP or similar while pretending he had 10 percent of Edward R. Murrow's class.
Don't get me wrong, Hannity was always a jackoff too.
No one listened to Olbermann's rants anyway
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Obama actually didn't do that bad in term of keeping promises for his first term. There is no doubt that the GOP put up a lot of resistance toward Obama, but he isn't also without blame here. Obama didn't do much to compromise with the GOP, regardless of what he said.
To be honest, we're better off going back to News channel actually just broadcasting news. All of these political "opinions" only serve to embarrass both parties.
Obama did great his first two years, then the tea party and conservatives took over the House. From what I read, Obama was criticized for caving too quickly to Republican demands or resistance to compromise on things like the budget.
I agree, but with Fox influencing their local Fox affiliate stations and MSNBC influencing their local NBC stations, we have to rely on CNN (which has a liberal bias) and their ridiculous reporting for somewhat impartial news.To be honest, we're better off going back to News channel actually just broadcasting news. All of these political "opinions" only serve to embarrass both parties.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I should clarify
What i meant was that Obama failed to create support for himself within the GOP. He was more effective at campaigning than actual politic. He didn't socialize or support any republican and mostly kept to his own party, which created problems when it come time for compromises. Most of those issues were resolved by either A. forcefully pushed through (Obamacare is one particular big one) or B. Obama would cave to GOP demand completely because of lack of support. There was little actual compromise going on.
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