Your annoying condescension is showing.Originally Posted by XanBcoo
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Mortal Kombat is cool - but then again I'm harnessing my memory from the 3rd grade, so I dunno.
Your annoying condescension is showing.
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Mortal Kombat is cool - but then again I'm harnessing my memory from the 3rd grade, so I dunno.
Last edited by Sapphire; Tue, 12-06-2011 at 10:34 PM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
This is true:
If you are going that route, you can make the argument that the Matrix is an adaptation of Dark City as well. The Matrix and Inception draw from a lot of stories, but they are not credited adaptations of those works. Why don't we go and call the Matrix a film adaptation of Simulacra and Simulation (which the author denies). And as for Inception, there are other stories that deal with controlling dreams and what not.
Last edited by rockmanj; Tue, 12-06-2011 at 11:13 PM.
Oh my lord that looks like an awesome episode of Voyager!!! I will definitely check it out, it looks amazing!!!!
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Kay, let's just ignore what the creators of the movies said, because you don't see the resemblance despite it being shoved in your face, so they're clearly wrong.
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@DS: wat
Last edited by Sapphire; Wed, 12-07-2011 at 08:12 AM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
What are you talking about? Those movies draw influences from other works and stories, but are not adaptations. The film makers said they were heavily influenced by ghost in the shell, ninja scroll, and Akira; so was the Matrix the first live action Akira "adaptation"? The same for Inception. It isn't "Donald Duck's Strange Dream: the Movie" or any of those things...it is Inception, an original story with elements from other stories. Now I am not so sure you know what a film adaptation is.
Last edited by rockmanj; Wed, 12-07-2011 at 08:49 PM.
lol wat. I don't even-Matrix the first live action Akira "adaptation"? The same for Inception. It isn't Donald Duck's strange dream...additional rambling
Edit: Just nevermind, I lost interest at your blatant non-sequitur.
Last edited by Sapphire; Wed, 12-07-2011 at 01:04 PM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
I was saying that your argument of those films as adaptations does not stand up to the premise you claimed. And the Donald Duck thing comes from this article: http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/08/...uck/index.html
The Matrix is not an adaptation of anything. It draws material from many disparate sources: Grant Morrison's seminal work on "The Invisibles", Dark City, Blade Runner, Japanese anime, film noir, and on and on. The Matrix's grappling with questions of the self and free will/determinism was religious rather than secular, and that alone sets it apart from works like Ghost in the Shell and Dark City.
How is this confusing to you in the least?
Being inspired or influenced by something, or even having minor thematic or cinematic parallels is not the same as being adapted from something.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
To be fair, I had some lazy grammar errors in there; that may have been why she could not understand my straightforward point.
Well.. DB Evolution was a terrible movie. Every fan of DB from the moment they heard it was having all caucasian actors knew it would be an epic failure.
Hollywood did a remake of "Dance with me", the original Japanese version was 1000 % better. In the Japanese version you could feel the emotions the actors and actresses portrayed. I didnt get that in the Hollywood version. The story is similar but it diverges off in a thousand different non-important ways.
Anyone see the American version of Blood: The Last Vampire or whatever. I thought it was terrible. Yes she was ethnically the right choice but the co-actors was abviously caucasion and meant to try and appeal to the caucasian audience.
Most hollywood movies try to do that. Heaven forbid we have a ethnically correct Goku in Dragon Ball and 10s of millions of people go to see a DB or DBZ movie with a proper story and actors, with Hollywood making 100s of millions of dollars. Why make a movie that makes the audience happy when you can try and appeal to one market, the caucasian market.
Now... you can talk about us dieh-hard Japanese anime fans being racist or predjudice, however I do see Hollywood being in the wrong in trying to appeal to one ethnic market.
I cannot believe I am doing this, but the problems with DB Evolution go beyond Goku's race. Honestly, I would not have even been mad if they cast a white guy as Goku, seeing as he is an alien. The whole story was fucked, as they made him some high school teen. If the story was about a young adult Goku that stayed true to the character and was well written and acted, it would have been fine with me.
That's true Rockman. Goku in DBE didnt need to be Angsty and depressed. Had Goku been Goku, the movie might have been a little more tolerable. I still say the story was horrible and the acting not decent.
All I can say is, I hope Akira doesnt suffer the same fate.
Just read Akira is on hold until a script is written so it can be done on a smaller budget, lol.
Just like Hollywood wanting to make a movie that is terrible.
They need a new script for a movie that has already been made?? Just replace the animated character with a human being (preferably Asian) and you have your movie.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Link?
Also I was listening to some house/dubstep today and was reminded of the Tron: Legacy soundtrack, then realizing how important it will be that the movie also have a unique soundtrack. Really one of the only things I loved about the Akira anime film is the soundtrack.
Watching the opening bike gang war scene with the tribal drums and chanting is gonna be hard to top.
Last edited by XanBcoo; Mon, 01-09-2012 at 05:57 PM.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Ok, Just read a new article that says it's not dead yet. But it might as well be dead.
http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/akir...h-lead-actors/
I don't know if this person was trolling or is really that ignorant.with regards to the “whitewashing” complaints… good stories, like Akira, should transcend race. I don’t really care what the race of any actor is, as long as he or she does a good job. besides, isn’t it kind of silly to say that cartoon characters from sci-fi Neo-Tokyo even have race?
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