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    The game certainly got easier again with the 1.3 patch. Now, provided you have got the appropriate resistance gear equipped, a dragon or a hostile mage won't reduce health to zero in seconds. I can't really say I'd have noticed too many other changes, apart from dragon not flying backwards anymore. I see keep losing them, though, because they are so hard to hit in the air and they never seem to be hostile unless you hit them once. Unless they are attacking some town or other target that isn't the player.

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    I think 1.3 is causing other issues. Now I seem impervious to frost breath when I only have 40% resistance. I got a "map updated" message for a mission, but I can't find the location on the map.

    I'm trying to complete a bounty quest to complete a thane quest for Falkreath. It requires me to kill a giant at Secunda's Shelf, but there is no such location in Skyrim. There's a Secunda's Kiss near Whiterun and there is a giant there, but killing him does not advance the quest. Any ideas? Seems like a bug.
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    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I think 1.3 is causing other issues. Now I seem impervious to frost breath when I only have 40% resistance. I got a "map updated" message for a mission, but I can't find the location on the map.
    Is the location directly relevant to the next step in the quest? If so, what happens when you press 'Show on Map' for that step? Is it disabled, or does it simply not work?

    Been a while since I played (waiting for 1.3 on Xbox) but I remember doing that Giant mission before patch 1.2. For me, there was a quest marker on the giant. There was a single giant at Secunda's Kiss and another one just a little distance from the camp. You are supposed to kill the latter one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash! View Post
    Is the location directly relevant to the next step in the quest? If so, what happens when you press 'Show on Map' for that step? Is it disabled, or does it simply not work?

    Been a while since I played (waiting for 1.3 on Xbox) but I remember doing that Giant mission before patch 1.2. For me, there was a quest marker on the giant. There was a single giant at Secunda's Kiss and another one just a little distance from the camp. You are supposed to kill the latter one.
    It's a bounty which I hope will help me complete the "help 3 people of Falkreath" quest to become thane of Falkreath. The "show on map" is grayed out for the mission. I killed the giant at Secunda's Kiss and then walked around the area for an hour trying to locate Secunda's Shelf or another giant to kill. That first giant didn't have an arrow marker.

    Next I'll wait in the game for 24 hours to see if the giant spawns. Thanks for the tips.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Skyrim actually totally reminds me of that game that Ender plays in Ender's Game.

    You can do ANYTHING, kill ANYONE, basically become anything. Whatever comes next is definitely the game Ender plays.
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    I always found people who you couldn't kill to be.. annoying. It seems like you're wasting your effort trying to kill them (but you have to cuz they won't leave you alone), and if seen you sometimes get a bounty on your head.

    Ra'Jee or something from Solitude is one such character. Not that I care about my bounty there though. It's well over 17K.


    But the other day I just casually talked to the barman after visiting my fence there, and it turns out this Ra Jee has a job on offer. Funny how NPCs will suddenly become less hostile like that. I completed his quest, and he became disposable.. so you know what I did.

    I wouldn't say I regret doing that, but now Solitude is just that little bit more lonely. I miss stabbing saying Hi to a familiar face when I go there...



    And just finished The Hangover quest. That was pretty funny. Too bad the daedric prince sent me away before I had a chance to try an attack on him. (On a related task, I went mammoth hunting again to collect a tusk for this girl. Bandits seem to scale up with you, but mammoths don't. Their attacks aren't as damaging on me anymore.. and they get wasted by me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash! View Post
    Is the location directly relevant to the next step in the quest? If so, what happens when you press 'Show on Map' for that step? Is it disabled, or does it simply not work?

    Been a while since I played (waiting for 1.3 on Xbox) but I remember doing that Giant mission before patch 1.2. For me, there was a quest marker on the giant. There was a single giant at Secunda's Kiss and another one just a little distance from the camp. You are supposed to kill the latter one.
    Well, that giant didn't respawn so I guess I ruined that quest because I killed that giant earlier on (I cleared Secunda's kiss a while ago). Weird that the bounty lists "secunda's shelf" but there is no such place. Typo by the game makers I guess.

    Has anyone found any of the treasures shown on a treasure map? I found one and it was rather disappointing.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    And just finished The Hangover quest. That was pretty funny. Too bad the daedric prince sent me away before I had a chance to try an attack on him.
    That was definitely one of the better daedric quests. You'd have liked to attack a daedric prince? I don't think that would have resulted in a certain khajiit's victory, but too bad you couldn't try.

    I played through Sheogorath's quest and somehow I got a warm feeling inside me when it was hinted he was in fact the player character of Oblivion (Shivering Isles) turned into a real (I guess) daedric prince. A good culmination to that game, revealed in the next. It always bothered me that despite the closest subjects calling you Sheogorath in Oblivion, all you could really do was order them around a little and change the weather for a while. I guess the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers already knew beforehand how it would turn out in the future...

    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Has anyone found any of the treasures shown on a treasure map? I found one and it was rather disappointing.
    I've found a bunch of them. None has been anything to tell a bartender about. But I guess they contributed to my bloating hoard of jewelry. The real point of them must be to recognize the place, not gain any wealth or nice items.

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    Treasure map? Damn.. where do I get one of those?

    I can torture people in the Dark Brotherhood's torture chamber into telling me where they're hiding their goods, but they only give a short description without anything being shown on the map. I couldn't find them, so I loaded the save back.

    They moaned a lot less after I got the info out of them (or so I perceived anyway). Their pained moaning plus Cicero's merry commentary make for a great duet.

    I'm lvl40 at the moment. Strongest armour set that I've got is actually a mismatch of:

    Volsung mask
    Thieve's Guild Master Armour
    Ancient Shrouded gloves
    Ancient Shrouded boots
    Ring that gives me +22 light armour skill

    Total light armour rating: 305.

    As for offense, I haven't encountered anything stronger (that is not enchanted) than a pair of refined Ebony daggers. Daedric is the only step up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Treasure map? Damn.. where do I get one of those?
    Random bandits and such can rarely carry them.

    My character somehow stopped to be a dragonborn. I can't absorb dragon souls anymore. At least the last three dragons I've slain have just remained dead on the ground, not granting me a soul. I don't think I should have hit any critical point in the story either. I don't know what's going on. I guess I need to see if there's a console command to get souls when I run out of my buffer of three souls. Assuming I find any interesting shouts anywhere.

    It's funny how fate seems to sometimes play a role in this game. I happened upon a book of Boethia and thus triggered the quest. I had actually stumbled on her shrine earlier but without the quest it was deserted. As I was wandering the wilds in those parts anyway, looking for ancient burial sites sporting Shouts, I visited the shrine and was told I'd need to bring a friend with me to the place to be offered as a sacrifice to Boethia. As I have few friends in Skyrim, I left and kept wandering. Later I entered an ominous looking old tower and there met a witch who was having second thoughts about sacrificing some innocent person for her mom to become a hagraven. She asked for my help to stop the witches and hags. Now, in my twisted mind I immediately thought the irony would be delicious if, provided she survives the fight against her mom, I took this woman to the shrine of Boethia to be sacrificed for my sake. If that doesn't satisfy Boethia, I don't what will.

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    Did you not train your light armor? My dragonscale armor with bonuses has my armor rating at 1030.

    I just found the joy of dual-wielding daggers. I need to find those daedric daggers!

    Yes there are random treasure maps I've found in chests (of corpses as well as wooden *cackle*). They lead to some pretty crappy gold/jewel treasures that had to be more about location finding like Kraco said. They really are a pitiful haul.

    I did the hangover quest, it was a lot of fun, but true to form I defied the prince at the end. He sends two daedric warriors to teach you a lesson but they were easy enough to kill. I think I missed out on a daedric dagger or sword by not agreeing to be his minion.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    My character somehow stopped to be a dragonborn. I can't absorb dragon souls anymore. At least the last three dragons I've slain have just remained dead on the ground, not granting me a soul. I don't think I should have hit any critical point in the story either. I don't know what's going on. I guess I need to see if there's a console command to get souls when I run out of my buffer of three souls. Assuming I find any interesting shouts anywhere.
    Hmm, that sucks. Wonder if it's a bug. I don't know how often this happens, but lately I've seen a lot of my dragons perform what would best be described as a crash-landing. It's particularly true for Elder Dragons.

    I wouldn't mind too much for me to stop being a dragonborn though as long as I can still shout. Got a buffer of 19 souls to chew through anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Did you not train your light armor? My dragonscale armor with bonuses has my armor rating at 1030.
    I do. I've got 87 in Light Armour, 5/5 Agile Defender and Custom Fit. The only perk left that actually gives you increased armour is Matching Set. That 305 rating is also from wearing this +22 L.Armour skill ring (making it effectively 109). Without it my armour rating drops to something like 270-280s.

    I've finally managed to sneak-attack some dragons again today. Shadow Warrior Sneak Attacks don't seem to work reliably when you have allies (horse) nearby. That particular manoeuvre only seems to work on the neck of a dragon too. Normal pre-emptive sneak attacks work as they should.

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    That seems low for an armor rating. Like I said, mine is 1030 but I'm level 59. It was in the 700s for armor rating throughout my 40s and 50s.

    @Kraco: how many souls do you have saved up? I'll encounter a dragon now and then that won't give me his soul. I think it might be a bug from the latest patch. I'm on 1.3.70.


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    I only have three spare souls saved. I had five at one point, but when the dragons stopped granting souls, I thought maybe the game has some sort of upper limit to how many you can store, and it's only five. It made no difference, though. Also, I killed one dragon four times (or five, but one doesn't count since the wyrm fell through the mountain to oblivion), but it again made no difference. It never granted the soul. After that the next ones were as stingy. If I still lose one more soul, I'll deem this condition permanent and start to look for a console command. I guess there needs to be one. Not that I'd have at the moment any shouts I'd consider worth unlocking - as long as the dragon souls seem this hard to gather.

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    If there is a limit to how many souls you can store, it's not 5. I have 15 stored right now. Are you on the 1.3.70 patch?

    I've been walking around the map trying to find new locations to explore and after hours (real time) of wandering out in the open I haven't encountered any dragons. Not sure if this is a glitch.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    I've encountered dragons most often right after fast-travelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I've encountered dragons most often right after fast-travelling.
    Yeah, that seems to be the case. Anyway, I got a dragon soul now, after the previous failures. I guess there's simply a certain chance it won't happen and my luck was faring poorly. The game version I'm running should be the latest since I haven't turned off the Steam auto-update.

    My new problem is the follower, who got stuck after a fight with a giant. The woman wanted to leave the witches' coven to do some good, yet she attacks absolutely any creature in sight that isn't townsfolk, guard or such. She annihilates random goats and whatnot. I guess she was a proper witch after all... So, when a dragon was fighting a giant, this woman obviously attacked the giant as well. After I killed the dragon, the giant hammered the follower down, and although she didn't die permanently (or fly to the orbit), she now simply stands there in an eternal combat pose without following or interacting. Perhaps the resetai console command will do the trick. I'll have to see. I still need her, after all...

    I got my armor rating to around 750 with the dragon scale, after finally reaching 100 in Smithing and creating a few enchanted smithing aids. I'm stuck with glass sword and bow, though, since I don't have any of the heavy armor side perks (that culminate in ebony/daedric). My level is 46, if I recall correctly, and I'd like to dedicate some perks to combat againt instead of smithing/enchanting. Getting to ebony/daedric would mean going through the useless Dwarven and Orcish. Every other tougher draugr is carrying ebony but I haven't seen any daedric weapons in loot. Ebony remains lower than glass without the perk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I've encountered dragons most often right after fast-travelling.
    I've fought five inside my mage college. Usually just from walking out a door. At least all the columns made it really easy when resistances were still bugged and dragons breathed death.

    My Conjurer has about 12 souls stocked up. My huntress...about 3.

    Armor? Who needs armor when you get triple powered Ironflesh because you only wear clothing.

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    So what's your effective armor rating with the 3x ironflesh?

    I'm surprised at how often I take damage even with the 1000+ armor rating. Sucks since I don't use a shield while I'm working on improving two-handed skill.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”

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    Well...0 (from clothing) plus 3 times Ironflesh is all of 240. But there's Ebonyflesh later on, which would give me 300. It'd be higher if I had the Alteration dual cast perk.

    But again, Conjurer/Destruction, so I don't even get attacked in the first place. There are encounters where I don't even get to do anything. My summoned Storm Atronach or dremora lord (because Storm Atronach's don't fit in dungeons) and Lydia do pretty much everything. But sometimes I like to run in with dual conjured swords, and the Ironflesh keeps me safe when I'm shooting conjured arrows.

    Nothing lives long enough when in the presence of the Archmage.

    ...and nothing lives to see my Huntress strike.
    (edit: Her armor rating is 88 btw.)
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