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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaticCat View Post
    maybe she has some unseen first-hokages-descendant-technique up her sleeve? She could know how to deal with Madara. I wouldn't be surprised...
    I would have thought if she had something like that, she would have used it when Pein attacked the village. But you never know, this isn't Bleach, but the continuity gets worse as it goes.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Splash! View Post
    I think the powers Madara received from the first are what allowed him to awaken the Rinnegan. Probably because of combining of the powers of the Uchiha and the Senju. Remember how those clans are supposed to be the descendants of the 2 sons of the sage of six paths. Although the 1st may have been stronger than EMS Madara, I don't think that's the case with Rinnegan Madara and his Meteor tossing abilities.

    Maybe fake Madara hopes to cultivate a fresh pair of Rinnegans by having Sasuke and Naruto duke it out and combine the Uchiha and Senju powers from this generation.
    What you said about Madara could be true. He did say that it has been a long time since he has seen this view... referring to the after math of the meteor hit. But that could just mean any huge war field full of dead ninja etc. So I thought he used the meteor move before but it would make sense if he has not.

    And the fact that tobi might want the uchiha and senju powers from this generation from naruto and sasuke fighting... that could more then make sense and I like your theory a lot! It would be better then the uchiha and senju are made to fight eachother bla bla bla.... boring and stupid. Tobi just wanting them to dual JUST because of the past is annoying.

    RockmanJ you said this... Also, the combination of senju+uchiha= rinengan makes a lot of sense.

    It's been obious for a while that there is defiantly some type of relationship that goes along the line of senju+uchiha= rinengan but it's very confusing. Been many people who seemed to have both DNA's and still have not obtained the rinengan and then there are people who have had the rinegan without perhaps having both DNA... Nagato. But I would have to go on forever to even remotely touch into this discussion. And I will admit it that I have given up for now about speculating about the rinegan. Every chapter that mentions the rinnigan just totally changes a lot of my opinions and theorys.

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    Theory: The Sage of the six path had relations with many women of many clans and they had children which resulted in all the bloodline limited techniques because as time flowed the bloodlines mixed and new ones were formed. This makes Byugan relevant again.

    The Sharinigan and Sengu inherited his traits the most. and yedi yedi yeda here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonrage View Post
    Theory: The Sage of the six path had relations with many women of many clans and they had children which resulted in all the bloodline limited techniques because as time flowed the bloodlines mixed and new ones were formed. This makes Byugan relevant again.

    The Sharinigan and Sengu inherited his traits the most. and yedi yedi yeda here we are.
    Hes a sage not charlie sheen and no the Uchiha and Sengu stated from story says that it came from his two sons of which he directly gave a part of his/the 10 tails power to. If anything his two sons had offspring and over the generations various bloodline offshoots appeared. But it's also very likely that other things were the factor of all theses bloodlines like for example people sealing theses tailed beasts into themselves or creating research based off of the beasts or the descendants of the sage of six paths. I think a few bloodlines could have been created directly from the tailed beasts... Or just random genetic twitches thought the years as clans and tribes intermingled and generations pasted. I don't think we have seen the last of the bakugan or the Hyuga it's probably in some way related to this whole thing but more then likely on a far less of a scale. But when things are finally explained properly and they should be I think the bakugan and the Hyuga are going to be discussed or mentioned about being created or mutated from the sharingan, rinniegan or somehow related to the Senju in the very least. But I'm not sure if the Byugan or Hyuga will be a plot important element but probably still mentioned.

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    Just a side note Charlie Sheen did not have that many children and he has been done to death so let sleeping dogs stay sleeping. But you do have a point, minor oversight. Also it doesn't mean the Sage of the six paths didn't have other children and there is not much known about how long ago or for how long he was alive, it is a manga after all, logic is optional. Like I said just a theory.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Huh? The first line is a quote from the new chapter. The second line is a fact from the very beginning of the manga. What is your problem, brah?
    I don't recall this fact appearing anywhere in the manga.
    near infinite, sure. infinite, no.

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    just going through some old chapters, this panel could definitely be used to say that tobi and madara are 2 unique beings
    naruto-7374.jpg

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    I have seen characters in manga describe themselves in the 3rd person before. I don't think Tobi is Madara, but that is not making a strong case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused_Yamato View Post
    I would have thought if she had something like that, she would have used it when Pein attacked the village.
    true, but what I meant ist that she knows what happend at the Valley of the End (that was the name, wasn't it?). And this info would only help against Madara.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaticCat View Post
    true, but what I meant ist that she knows what happend at the Valley of the End (that was the name, wasn't it?). And this info would only help against Madara.
    Speaking of the Valley of the end.... What location or possible locations do you think the final show down in naruto will be?

    I kind of hope and think that the final fight might actually take place back at the valley of the end! I used to wish it took part on "Great Naruto Bridge" but the bridge would be destroyed before the fighting even started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofu #2 View Post
    I don't recall this fact appearing anywhere in the manga.
    near infinite, sure. infinite, no.
    Iīm pretty sure that the Kyuubi was introduced under the premise of a "being of infinite chakra". But Iīm too lazy to look it up.

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    I believe it was "nearly" infinite, whatever that means.
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    Well that was a clone of Naruto's that was fighting Madara, so it may be that the Kyuubi inside Naruto's clone was also a clone, hence it having limited chakra.

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    Infinity divided by 2 is still infinity :P (whatever, it really isnīt important. Kishimoto wanted Naruto to have enough power to stop Madaraīs attack and thatīs that. Power levels and chakra amount has been fucked over such a long time ago, itīs not worth debating.)

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    Kind of off topic, but I just thought about something. They said they gave Naurto the surname Uzimaki so that people would not know that he is the son of the 4th, but it looks like his mom was one of the only Uzimaki's seen in the village. Add to that, I am sure that people knew who the Hokage's wife was and that a baby popped up with the kyuubi in it the day she mysteriously dies. It does not seem hard to put 2 and 2 together here.

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    What are you trying to say exactly? Most people indeed knew naruto was the host to the kyuubi, just not the people that weren't old enough to remember. They had to keep it a secret, so they gave naruto the name of his mom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow View Post
    What are you trying to say exactly? Most people indeed knew naruto was the host to the kyuubi, just not the people that weren't old enough to remember. They had to keep it a secret, so they gave naruto the name of his mom.
    I believe the 3rd said that they gave him the name "Uzumaki" so that people would not associate him with the 4th (for whatever reason). But that logic fails if anyone knew who his wife was. There are not too many Uzumakis running around.

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    That's the thing, everyone who knew that kushina was his wife were all the people that kept it a secret. It would be odd to keep the 4th hokage's name a secret, but not so much completely keeping it a secret he had a wife at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow View Post
    That's the thing, everyone who knew that kushina was his wife were all the people that kept it a secret. It would be odd to keep the 4th hokage's name a secret, but not so much completely keeping it a secret he had a wife at all.
    So the fact that kushina was married to the 4th and the fact that she was pregnant were both kept a secret within a limited number of people? So when was it going to be announced? How could the kage live a life of marriage with a child secretly in a massive village. I am happy someone brought this up because it is messed up.

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    I never said they kept it a secret at the time, I said they kept kushina and kyuubi naruto a secret for everyone that was too young at the time to remember; so ppl like Iruka knew, cause he was old enough to remember, but he obviously kept it a secret to everyone that came after him.
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