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I like how Oda plainly laid out why this arc isnt exciting at all.
What`s so unexciting about it?
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Brooke's definitely a bit cooler now, but kinda strange that the longarm tribe would give him such a fancy new cane sword
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Maybe they got it from a groupie.Originally Posted by Assertn
It's a little unexciting because we know these guys don't stand a chance between the Straw Hats
So....hodi is just a racist who is unfounded. Surprise...?
Well at least we know that brooke is immortal until something can cut/shoot/destroy a soul. The only way anyone could beat him is by drowning him at this point since his shadow is there permanently. He by far has eaten one of the best fruits for a human. If zoro had that fruit he would be the best hands down. he could die and still retain his sword skill and continue living as what would essentially be a zombie. Awesome fruit its awesome. It would suck if usopp had it b/c then he would die and still be...well...usopp. I mean usopp is good but if someone who you really didn't want coming back as an opponent had that fruit like Raleigh or Roger it would be over.
Robin's new extension of her powers are cool. Can't beleive no one mentioned it.
I don't think he's immortal so much as that he's only vulnerable to attacks that directly damage his bones. He said something along the lines of being immortal to that fishman guy because the nature of that guy's attacks doesn't inflict the proper damage.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
We'd already seen full body fleur, the giant leg attack was way more impressive.
A lot of old arcs didn`t had worthy enemies but still end up as good arcs, Kuro, Don Krieg, Arlong, Wapol and even Enel to a point.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
What? The strawhats struggled through each and every one of those battles...(except Wapol)
Uhmmm no they didn`t, he went serious on Kuro and he was down the next second, Don Krieg was an oportunistic guy that took advantage of being surrounded by water and his armor, again, luffy went serious = Arlong is down, Enel`s electric attack were 100% useless on Luffy and considering he never really bothered with anything since his fruit was so overpowered, he went down quickly, Enel`s strongest attack? failed miserably.
They were still overall good arcs, i`m just saying the bad guys being the underdog doesn`t makes it unexciting, this is nothing new.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Thu, 10-20-2011 at 08:46 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Luffy was pretty exhausted/injured after each of those fights, meaning he gave it his all.
Apart from those guys, Luffy has been utterly defeated at least once by each of the serious opponents he has fought (with the exception of Moria).
So all of Luffy's important fights have been against people who were close to his level or ones that far exceeded it initially. There really haven't been opponents as worthless as the new fishmen pirates to have an entire arc dedicated to them. If Jimbei had seen through their plan, he could have dealt with them single handedly.
No, he was truly exhausted when fighting Crocodile, he slept like a week?, CP9 (Couldn`t move an inch) and Moria, the other guys, he took a small break and went on with his life, except for maybe Krieg, but that was more of a pride thing that he decided to take all those hits on purpose to break the spear.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
It's clear that Luffy had been progressing with each fight. Even with Crocodile, after being completely outclassed once, he was able to beat him the next time. Just because Crocodile was the hardest opponent he had faced up to that point doesn't mean that all his other fights weren't pushing him to the limit. It's just that his limit kept on increasing with every fight.
Ok, let me rephrase it again.
When he fought Kuro he took a 5 seconds break, when he fought Crocodile he slept for weeks.
How can you say he was at his max fighting Kuro? if he really got leaps and bounds stronger, why didn`t he just rest for 5 seconds after defeating Croc? He`s not a Saiyan guys.
Maybe you should watch the Kuro fight again, Luffy just hit him twice and the fight was over :/
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Just because Luffy got more injured in one fight vs another doesn't mean he didn't try hard in both. It just means his opponent was that much more damn difficult and fought back alot more. It says more about the opponent.
Edit: It just doesn't make sense to use an opponent Luffy fought later in the series to say that all his fights before then had been easy. By that logic, Luffy has never really been pushed to limit at all since the series began, because who knows what kind of crazy strong opponents he will overcome in the future. Also, Kuro was beaten RELATIVELY easily, in hindsight, compared to Arlong or Don Krieg.
Last edited by Splash!; Fri, 10-21-2011 at 12:54 PM.
If there was anything gained from the east blue battles, it was mental conditioning for the real adventure that started once they hit the grand line. In terms of pure fighting ability, everyone was capable of beating their counterparts without the need to train or learn new skills.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I agree. But mental conditioning or gaining experience is all part of getting better. You could say that after a few fights, Luffy could go back and fight one of the earlier opponents and take even less damage because he would fight smarter. In fact, isn't that exactly what happened with Crocodile Round 2. You could say Luffy was always capable of beating Crocodile, its just that the experience he gained from Round 1 helped him perform better in Round 2.
Yeah but all the east blue fights were weak sauce. Villain came in, luffy came defeated major villain and the other strawhats dealt with the lackies. Luffy usually would beat the villain in two to three chapters of content and they would be forgotten. The better more serious threats would defeat luffy or leave him in near death and usually he'd have to
fight within an inch of his life to gain an edge.
New Fishman Pirates could easily be defeated by the pre-enies lobby straw hats without batting an eye. They are weak sauce and I wish oda would just finish this arc so we can finally move on to more interesting stuff in the new
world.
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