Naruto Chapter 560

[Naruto_RNG]

I must admit I kinda agree with viperwasp when it comes to Madara's meteor being a genjutsu. He pretty much looked at everyone while flashing by them after his katon jutsu and what's more is everyone is looking at him now. As said by Guy when fighting a sharingan user look at their feet not eyes. Itachi can do split sec genjutsu and I'm pretty sure Madara can do the same if not better then him when it comes to that. Hell Sharingan was held as master genjutsu kekkai before the ret-con. I wouldn't be shocked if this is a mass hallucination everyone is experiencing. Oh well got to wait and see I guess. I just hope this manga finishes with what little ounce of dignity it has left.

[Barumonk]

I must admit I kinda agree with viperwasp when it comes to Madara's meteor being a genjutsu.

^ This. Otherwise it's a combination of two time-space jutsu, something like summoning and a yellow flash/tobi teleport. That being said, the combo time-space jutsu is entirely more badass and would make up for the fact that fucking Madara needs the rinnegan to handle anyone in this fight, Naruto included.

[Archangel]

^ This. Otherwise it's a combination of two time-space jutsu, something like summoning and a yellow flash/tobi teleport. That being said, the combo time-space jutsu is entirely more badass and would make up for the fact that fucking Madara needs the rinnegan to handle anyone in this fight, Naruto included.

Implying this whole clusterfuck hasn't been a genjutsu ever since the zombies showed up. Lol, did you guys actually believe Kishimoto was that bad a writer?

[Barumonk]

Implying this whole clusterfuck hasn't been a genjutsu ever since the zombies showed up. Lol, did you guys actually believe Kishimoto was that bad a writer?

Well, I did want to ask how Kabutoro had enough chakra for all this, but then I remembered that you're trolling because Kishimoto is indeed a terrible writer. Afterwards, I ate an apple.

[viperwasp]

I must admit I kinda agree with viperwasp when it comes to Madara's meteor being a genjutsu. He pretty much looked at everyone while flashing by them after his katon jutsu and what's more is everyone is looking at him now. As said by Guy when fighting a sharingan user look at their feet not eyes. Itachi can do split sec genjutsu and I'm pretty sure Madara can do the same if not better then him when it comes to that. Hell Sharingan was held as master genjutsu kekkai before the ret-con. I wouldn't be shocked if this is a mass hallucination everyone is experiencing. Oh well got to wait and see I guess. I just hope this manga finishes with what little ounce of dignity it has left.

Yes... However I did notice this at first but it still shocks me... The dual Susanoo seal is fairly extreme there is a small part of me that thinks it may not be a genjutsu. But if so the move is way to imba. But it seems like a jutsu that needs Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan evolved into rinnegan using dual Susanoo with a tri-seal involving the Susanoo and the user... that is badass... If it is a genjutsu it has more to it then just being a meteor. I am fairly certain even itachi could cast a genjutsu like that on everyone. Maybe a special type of genjutsu that does not require the targets eye contact in the same way as most other genjutsu from the uchiha. Perhaps this will be similar to the "Moon Eyes" plan genjutsu but on a much smaller scale. Or this genjutsu has some other special properties etc. I don't see the need for such a special formation of seals just to put a very large group into a genjutsu.

^ This. Otherwise it's a combination of two time-space jutsu, something like summoning and a yellow flash/tobi teleport. That being said, the combo time-space jutsu is entirely more badass and would make up for the fact that fucking Madara needs the rinnegan to handle anyone in this fight, Naruto included.

So summoning a meteor from some region or area in space. That would be very sick and badass and would open up even more possibilities. Only some other uchiha like Itachi or Tobi could counter this. Probably not even Itachi.

Sasuke > Oro > Old 3rd > Hashirama (who is => Madara) + 2nd ?

It's almost impossible to calculate a true power line in naruto. Everything is balanced in it's own way. Or unbalanced.

If I had to select who I currently think is the most powerful existing character in Naruto only going on what we have seen... Ingoring Madara because he was just shown.

I would say Itachi, He faught sasuke and did extreme damage basically wearing Sasuke down to nothing and then Itachi took out orochimaru in 1-2 hits depending on how you look at it. On top of that not only was Itachi not in his prime but he was also living with reduced vision and suffering from what I would call a critical illness. AND ON TOP OF THAT! Itachi was basically trying to loose but still wanting to put up a good fight. Sasuke was much weaker back then but he was still very strong.

Itachi had that one special sword that could basically one-shot anyone that I can think of if it hits... And it's also extremely strong on top of just being a one-hit kill... if that even makes sense. He cut off those giant snake heads so easily before sealing oro. Then he has the yeta mirror which is said to block any attack. However I suspect it won't block some of the highest end Rinnegan/Madara moves an perhaps other moves of the same level. Or it might be able to block just about everything but has some other form of weakness or limit. So I think Itachi at worst is just below Madaras level from what we have seen so far.

That aside let me break down this list the best way I can.
Sasuke > Oro > Old 3rd > Hashirama

Sasuke basically sucker punched oro when he was on his deathbed. Sasuke already mentioned that oro was already weak when he killed him but we as viewers could tell that. It was still a fairly impressive feat. And it's been more then a while since Sasuke has in my opinion surpassed oro true strength. So Sasuke > Oro... Kind of still stands but not so much as the time the fight if you could call it that happened. But if oro had planned or was ready to revive all theses fighters like Kabuto has during this war it would have crushed sasuke. lol

Oro better then the Old 3rd... Well... Sure... The only thing that makes comparing certain people difficult is that as certain shows go on power differences fluctuate. For example the revived 1st and 2nd Hokages fought strongly for the time that they were revived but even shortly into the Timeskip if you look back they were nothing compared to some other Ninja. And this can be explained with two reasons.

Reason#1 The revival technics used weakened them. Perhaps the more recent impure world resurrection is more effective. Well actually we know that it is more effective they told us this to help cover the very plot hole I am talking about. There is no way the 1st and or 2nd were as weak in life as they were during the oro+Old 3rd fight. So as the manga progressed it had to keep elevating and expanding the fights so sooner or later kishimoto found a new balance of how strong certain people should be. Even oro really increased in fighting power post time-gap. And no that was not because of the time-gap itself. It was just because of how the manga evolved. Things like a Time-gap or how jutsu worked and other means can cover up small plot holes like this. The 3rd had a more true reason for fighting so weak. I suspect if we could see him fight in his prime or even now in the manga it would be a different.

Reason#2.... Plot Hole..

After explaining that I still of course think that oro is greater then the old 3rd... Because both oro and the Old 3rd would be under the negatives of the writing. And oro did have a fairly easy time for what it was worth. And mainly because the term Old 3rd was used. I could not say for sure who would win if it was oro VS younger 3rd.

Old 3rd > Hashirama?!!! NO! JUST NO!

Umm... Sure.... I did not even read old 3rd I read 3rd in his prime and it still lost to Hashirama in my mind. Why??? Well there is something about Hashirama we don't know it. Is it unfair to use that in this calculation... YES! And no...

If it is Old 3rd VS Hashirama I can say almost for sure Hashirama wins. It is more of an argument or debate about the 3rd in his prime VS Hashirama. I still say Hashirama wins mainly because all we have to go by was his revived body VS old 3rd... And the way the revived body fought in my opinion would have lost to a great number of Ninja... Garra... Sasuke... Naruto... Pein... Actually the way Hashirama fought in the battle with oro Vs old 3rd would have lost to any decent ninja. So for sure the real Hashirama who had what I suspect was a super high level battle with Madara apparently killing madara who is exposed to be one of the most powerful uchiha. Ya.... something tells me there is a lot more to Hashirama just from what we have already seen of the revived Madara is scary... And Hashirama beat him? In my personal opinion Hashirama is up there at the top of the list of the most powerful Ninja. I would consider him at worst on par with Sasuke even that is saying a lot.