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    Everyone of the main cast has one severe character flaw or another.

    - Kodaka is denser than lead and has a terrible sense of humor (but thinks he is good at jokes).
    - Sena is a creepy stalker, booksmart, but lacking any common sense.
    - Yozora's idea of how a normal relationship progresses is so backward that she keeps trying tricks to be alone with Kodaka, which always backfire on her.
    - Rika is obviously a colossal pervert and has a bad case of agoraphobia (technically Ochlophobia).
    - Yukimura is very, very, very confused. Probably intentionally misled by her family.
    - Kobato is childish, insecure, a little dumb, and has a severe brother complex.
    - Maria is a genius, but exceptionally gullible.

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    Well even among all the retarded shit, this is still pretty retarded.

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    I honestly do not know how you deluded yourself into thinking Yukimura was a boy all this time. You must have really wanted her to be a trap.

    It's not the difficult to understand really, given the vague reason she gave. Family issues. Her family probably kept her sheltered most of this time, and they're assuredly a very traditional, former samurai family from her intense interest in Japanese feudal history. They got a girl, and intentionally misled her into believing she was a boy, because that's what they wanted.

    I even bet she is an only child.



    Similarly, Sena is sheltered, her maid/butler does everything for her, her father is overprotective, so of course she lacks common sense.
    Maria is young, doted on by her overprotective yet stern older sister, of course she is naive.
    Rika is ostracizes herself due to her preferences, and stereotypically hates crowds to go along with her intelligence, she's social enough though.
    Kobato is shy, realizes that she looks very young for her age, but really enjoys the fact that her brother takes care of her, and correspondingly has developed a brother complex.
    Kodaka is a nice guy, but got betrayed by his best friend at a young age (Yozora) when she stood him up, and is treated poorly by others due to his appearance.

    The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.
    She's just evil, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.
    I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.

    Did anybody hear Sena's screams come from the R audio channel while Sora's came out of the L? That's how I interpreted it based on the contents of the speech, and it seemed rather weird that it'd be inverted like that compared to the visuals.

    I've gone on a few roller coasters a fair few times and they don't scare me anymore, sadly. I've only gone on a dropping-machine once, and while it did gain enough acceleration to lurch my innards, there wasn't enough height for it to last longer than a single second or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.
    I wouldn't go that far. She's clearly given up some, though, and accepted she can't anymore get rid of everybody else to monopolize Kodaka. But that's all. She doesn't even communicate with Kobato, who is someone impossible to separate from Kodaka for reasons that must be obvious even to Yozora.

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    Fail, please delete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.
    She absolutely wants to get rid of all the other girls.

    She tries to drive Sena away every day. Yozora was horrified that someone else actually showed up to her silly club, the fact that Sena was desperate enough to see her super secret message that even Kodaka needed explained was notable enough. She's usually successful at making her run away in tears, but again, Sena is just way too desperate for friends.

    Watch episode 2 of this season again. When Kodaka mentions that Rika's recent style changes are right within his strike zone, Yozora lashes out immediately. She'd drive Rika off if she could, but thankfully Rika is bizarre enough on her own that she doesn't deem her a true threat. Rika definitely pisses Yozora off, but I think she understands that while she can't do anything to her (because Rika will outsmart her), Kodaka will never really be attracted to her.

    Yozora was devastated this episode that Yukimura turned out to be a girl. Furthermore, what she had been doing just to mess with the "pretty boy" who liked to hang around Kodaka (initially stalking Kodaka), backfired complete, because she had unknowingly turned her into a maid fetish object with a selfless devotion to Kodaka. Precisely the last thing she would want. You can see from the preview what Yozora's next step is.

    Maria is a child, so she's not worried there. Also essential, because she's the club advisor. Messing with Maria is Yozora's only joy in life. Still, remember that Yozora tricked Maria out of the room for a while initially, forcing her to nap on the chapel pews. She got rid of her one way or another.

    Kobato, like Kraco said, she never even seems to speak to.

    Yozora doesn't accept any of them except Maria, now that she's found out Yukimura is a girl. The only reason they're still around is Yozora thinks she has "the worst luck," when she schemes too much, inevitably causing most of them to backfire on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Yozora doesn't accept any of them except Maria, now that she's found out Yukimura is a girl. The only reason they're still around is Yozora thinks she has "the worst luck," when she schemes too much, inevitably causing most of them to backfire on her.
    She certainly doesn't accept any of them, but more often than not she has been forced to play along with the club thing, because there's no way around it. She's too broken to meet Kodaka outside of the club (something Sena does surprisingly easily) and there's practically no way anymore to make it a club of just two.

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    Wouldn't the case with S1-Rika, male Yukimura plus Kobato suggest that she's okay as long as they're friend-zoned? She seems to bite when the "potential love interest" flag gets raised, more so than anything else.

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    Man, I laughed so hard when Rika said fuck right as the rollercoaster dropped.

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    The rollercoaster scene in general was great. I liked how both Sena and Yozora were calling Kodoka's name half-way through it.

    Question: Why didn't Kobato go into the men's bath?

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    Interesting. Makes me wonder how Kodoka is going to talk himself out of this one. Also, I kind of feel like Rika has lost some points with me this episode with all the hair style changes and yelling at Sena (although Sena should explained). It's funny how this season keeps making me want to flip flop all my favorite characters around. For example, I didn't care much for Maria up until last episode (plus the Air Recital Special). Anyways, good episode nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vejita613 View Post
    Interesting. Makes me wonder how Kodoka is going to talk himself out of this one. Also, I kind of feel like Rika has lost some points with me this episode with all the hair style changes and yelling at Sena (although Sena should explained). It's funny how this season keeps making me want to flip flop all my favorite characters around. For example, I didn't care much for Maria up until last episode (plus the Air Recital Special). Anyways, good episode nonetheless.
    When Rika changes all the time, she kind of loses her identity and feels like a weaker character overall. I didn't have a problem with the earlier changes, but the hair went a little too far for me. Zetsuen parody got a smile out of me.

    And I still don't care for Maria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    When Rika changes all the time, she kind of loses her identity and feels like a weaker character overall. I didn't have a problem with the earlier changes, but the hair went a little too far for me.
    Yes, because a girl changing her hairstyle between ponytails, pigtails, or braids changes her personality.

    I am stunned to see this kind of comment from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Yes, because a girl changing her hairstyle between ponytails, pigtails, or braids changes her personality.

    I am stunned to see this kind of comment from you.
    I said identity, not personality. As far as anime characters are concerned, hairstyle forms part of their identity - not to mention hair colour.

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    Except unlike most generic romantic comedies (usually the ones based on h-games), each of Haganai's female cast has more personality. They're a bit beyond the usual range, "Oh, I like cooking and my adopted brother, Tee hee!"

    There's quite a bit more material to differentiate them from each other than by their haircolor and style. They're not single-trait characters. Excepting Yozora, the girls have motivations beyond having alone time with Kodaka.

    You've failed on a basic level to see past the surface.
    Last edited by Ryllharu; Fri, 02-08-2013 at 02:27 PM. Reason: had "along time" in lieu of "alone time"

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    I'd say her hair changing is part of her charm/character. She's doing it to get a compliment/reaction out of Kodaka. Not to mention she's always been spontaneous and an otaku.

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    It's not so much that she's changing her hair or whatever that bothers me, it's that she's doing it so rapidly. How many times did she change this episode? 3? 4? More so if you count the rest of the season. I get why she's doing it, and that's fine. I'm just saying give me a second to breathe and take it all in.

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