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    lol, Rat is like the selfish, non-Ant version of Pouf who is actually good at reading people. Leorio in the OP was pretty cool, even if the best thing he did was only punch a desk.

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    The fact that Netero was indeed the strongest hunter out there made the idea of risking his life in the ant mission all the more ridiculous.

    They could have just bombed the King in so many obvious ways, but because of Netero's battle hunger, everyone else in the know just decided to let him risk his incredibly valuable life. His death is not only a loss of a fighter, but also a leader. Now, a bunch of power hungry creeps are vying for his position, a position which can cause great harm to everyone in the world, should it be occupied by the wrong person.

    I would have also liked some mention of these 12 asshats before this development. This feels way too much like an ass pull to me. How hard would it have been to foreshadow their existence, and Netero's motivation to fight to the death with the ants? The story is obviously excusing itself for suddenly pulling out these bozos, going so far as explicitly excusing Netero's dumbass choice not to seek help.
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    It makes perfect sense to me if you understand that, these people just don't care. You're treating the Hunter's Associtation like it's some kind of world government. Or some kind of charity. It's not. It's an adventurer's guild. Most of the people in it aren't motivated by the world's benefit, they've motivated to pursue whatever it is that excites them, the thing that each of them hunts.

    What Netero hunted was worthy opponents to test his strength against. If the Hunter's Association wasn't going to allow him to do that, then what purpose was there in him being a Hunter? Netero's battle against Meruem was what he wanted. Bringing a bomb along to deal with the problem after he was dead was really just a courtesy to the rest of the world.

    Ging embodies this ideal. He doesn't actually care who wins the election, he just wants the process to be as entertaining as possible. Because he's pursuing his own sense of adventure, not what might be best for the world.

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    If I remember correctly, Netero was ordered to deal with the ants. He even had flashbacks of it during his battle with Meruem. He said he had to kill him, despite him asking for negotiations. Those scenes conflicted with this battle hunger development.

    I do understand that it makes perfect sense if you just accept that these hunters don't care about logic or common sense. It just isn't a good reason reason at all, because it can excuse anything and everything in the story without requiring logical sense. You know, like how Hisoka now cares about saving Gon, when his main goal is fighting someone strong, and there are oodles of them in front of him right now, including Killua's brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta
    You know, like how Hisoka now cares about saving Gon, when his main goal is fighting someone strong, and there are oodles of them in front of him right now, including Killua's brother.
    Just occurred to me that if Hisoka saw Gon in his 25-year-old form he'd have jizzed himself dry.

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    Just quoting a neg rep so I can reply to it.

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    Netero "had" to kill Mereum because Mereum was asking for too much. Putting SOME humans in a "human preserve" and killing the rest.
    Actually Meruem said that he wanted to create a world so fair that inequality will be forgotten, and that he thought that power should be used to protect the weak. Then he asked for an open discussion. Then Netero had the flashback of bigwigs giving him the order to exterminate the ants, no matter how and what. Netero agreed, but noted that the Hunter association is being used. Right after the flashback, Netero even said that he should hurry and fight before he is swayed. He then proceeded to attack the king who was sitting down...

    Why would Netero fear being swayed if he thought Meruem would surely do as you say?

    It is as if you only remembered the first part of their conversation (there are a few humans worth keeping, like Komugi and Netero), and not the rest of what Meruem said.
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    A position of power in an organization like Hunters might be a bitch unless your interests lie there, like the Rat's obviously do. Adventurers like to do whatever they want and seek whatever they fancy, but the boss of Hunters is tasked with maintaining the organization both internally and externally. Hunters enjoy some nice benefits possibly from all the countries, and that won't continue unless they do something in return as well. Netero had to with the ant question, no matter how he might have felt personally.

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    I completely agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Just quoting a neg rep so I can reply to it.



    Actually Meruem said that he wanted to create a world so fair that inequality will be forgotten, and that he thought that power should be used to protect the weak. Then he asked for an open discussion. Then Netero had the flashback of bigwigs giving him the order to exterminate the ants, no matter how and what. Netero agreed, but noted that the Hunter association is being used. Right after the flashback, Netero even said that he should hurry and fight before he is swayed. He then proceeded to attack the king who was sitting down...

    Why would Netero fear being swayed if he thought Meruem would surely do as you say?
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    Netero thinks "He is fluctuating. Caught between the identities of ant and human. He could lean toward either of the two."

    Can he trust Mereum? The answer is obviously no.

    Also, Netero's strength comes, at least partly, from his determination to win. He couldn't risk listening to the human side and losing his resolve against the ant side.

    It would have been different if Mereum had learned his lesson about how the weak are worth protecting before he murdered thousands of people.

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    Come on, Netero had no choice but to kill Meruem, regardless of whether he wanted to or not. What does it matter if Meruem killed whatever number of people? The question was WHY Netero wanted to kill the King. He wasn't doing it for vengeance for those who died, or even to save lives. He clearly stated in the ANIME that a person in his position cannot allow what Meruem wants, and this was all before Meruem's declaration that he wanted an equal, peaceful world for the humans. The human preserve and killing the rest thing is a misguided imagination. Meruem's statements contradict that. His actions afterwards contradict that.

    Also, why is it so obvious to you that he cannot trust Meruem? Why didn't he even hear him out? He clearly stated the reason. Because he might be swayed, which basically means made to trust Meruem. He does not have that option, so he did not take it.

    The funny thing is, everything that happened after simply showed how great a ruler Meruem could have been. Benevolent and fair, far better than any human ruler in the HxH world currently. He was also imba so he would not have worried about military pressure outside of nukes hitting him directly.

    Are you the neg repper? If so, you could have just replied in the thread.
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    You guys seriously give to many shits about rep.

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    Not really. It was just odd how a perfectly valid reply was made using the rep system, instead of the thread. There was no reason to be anonymous.
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    Nice episode. Snake-girl for me. @shinta: If you can make me a hot signature pic featuring her, itīd be greatly appreciated

    So that little child in the intro was the mysterious Zoldyeck-brother then ,eh? I thought itīd be the ant-reincarnation of Kaito. Wonder what powers he has when Illumi is "trying" to get rid of him.

    Hisoka not having noticed anything about the ants affair because of his Chrollo-chase was somewhat stupid. Come on.

    Whatīs with the dog girl, though? Some off-spring chimera ant, or just some random transformation ability? Afaik HXH never had animal people like, for example, Dragon Ball had.

    Was surprised to see the vote happen this fast, expected it to be what this arc is about. Guess not.

    Some minor criticism of mine would be how Ging just decideds to show up there. The whole series is built on the foundation that Gon looks for his father. Seeing him inmidst of people just like that ... is anti-climatic. Unless he has some superior observation ability, Gon could simply appear in his vicinity. Weird.

    But the best part of this episode, or rather the new arc and its intro: Leorio

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Whatīs with the dog girl, though? Some off-spring chimera ant, or just some random transformation ability? Afaik HXH never had animal people like, for example, Dragon Ball had.
    For most the Zodiacs, I'm gonna say that it's half costumes (see the Piyon the rabbit) and/or partially some Nen. Seeing that Geru (Snake) had conjured up a snake while threatening Pariston at 5:13 of the episode, it's more likely leaning towards the latter.

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    I wonder if there's any forshadowing to the fact that there's 12 Zodiacs, and 13 Spiders.
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    Hisoka not having noticed anything about the ants affair because of his Chrollo-chase was somewhat stupid. Come on.
    Why? The only reason he knew about the election is because they broadcast it all over the world.

    The Ant affair was supposedly kept secret. How would he know about it without some kind of secret information network like Illumi probably has.

    I mean, hell, even the Zodiacs apparently didn't hear about it until it was over.

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    Whatīs with the dog girl, though? Some off-spring chimera ant, or just some random transformation ability?
    The same thing that's wrong with most of the other Zodiacs. They're trying to look like the nicknames Netero gave them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Was surprised to see the vote happen this fast, expected it to be what this arc is about. Guess not.
    Did you not pay attention to the rules?

    Nobody won because you need over 50% of the votes to win, and the vote didn't even count because 95% of all Hunters have to vote in it to count.

    The way Ging set up the rules, there's going to be a bunch of rounds to the voting.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Unless he has some superior observation ability, Gon could simply appear in his vicinity.
    You mean except for the part where he's dying in bed someplace?
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    Episode 138:







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    Man, that's a creepy sister, but at the same time very fitting for that murderous family. The system is also exceedingly ironic, considering the next person must bear the price of the previous one's wish. Despite all that, I do pity the poor girl for being under strickter confinement than probably most of caught super criminals. Although it was kind of hard to judge if she even had a complete human personality or if she was a sort of slave to her own system as well, being reduced to a mere device. The OP gave a more human image of her than the flashback, that's for sure. Nevertheless, this is the kind of mysterious nen that even the ant King would have probably been helpless against. Killua must be feeling quite desperate indeed to resort to her, even though it now seems like half of his motive is to free Alluka. At least she's very cute when not in the wish granting mode.

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    This week kinda reinforced what I was saying last week about Hunters not caring about doing what's best for people.

    Netero chose Rat, not because he'd make a good Vice Chairman(pretty much everyone thinks he's terrible), but because he'd be more "interesting".


    And yeah, Alluka is creepy as fuck. I feel bad for whoever has to fulfill Alluka's requests after Killua uses her to save Gon.



    I really like how the ending song sounds like the 2nd verse of the previous credits song.
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    Chibi-Killua! Hau~ Omochikaeri~!

    I can actually see Illumi putting in that pin to protect Killua from any form of danger. I actually reckon Killua would find a way to break the system, or simply fulfill Alluka's next 3 requests after she revives Gon. I highly doubt he sees her as a system to be abused for benefits, but rather a helpful family member who has some weird quirks.

    So, what happens when you just ignore her "white face" or her 4 requests? What about ignoring some requests (<4) then granting some?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Chibi-Killua! Hau~ Omochikaeri~!

    I can actually see Illumi putting in that pin to protect Killua from any form of danger. I actually reckon Killua would find a way to break the system, or simply fulfill Alluka's next 3 requests after she revives Gon. I highly doubt he sees her as a system to be abused for benefits, but rather a helpful family member who has some weird quirks.

    So, what happens when you just ignore her "white face" or her 4 requests? What about ignoring some requests (<4) then granting some?
    I think it was inferred that if you grant one of her requests it resets the request limit. Not sure if the translation is correct but if it indeed has to be four in a row then that implies you have the option of choosing 1 out of 4. The issue seems that all the requests are on the same path, so if you get a body part or a nen attribute request your fucked.

    What just occurred to me is, what happens if you attack/kill her before she makes requests? I am assuming she has no combat capabilities so maybe the King would of just killed her and not had to deal with the madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I actually reckon Killua would find a way to break the system, or simply fulfill Alluka's next 3 requests after she revives Gon.
    Uh...and how's he gonna do that if she starts asking for his organs?

    Saving someone's life is probably right up there with becoming a millionaire.

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