Hunter x Hunter 2011

[Buffalobiian]

Any or all of them. It's just not that kind of series.

I don't get why you say that because they're all pretty different reasons for the attack not working out.

I don't think 3 will happen. 2 might, but I'm not hopeful. Meanwhile I can't see why 1 wouldn't happen. Perhaps Gon could convince Meleoron that Knuckle is the better person, or that they somehow get discovered before they move in for the attack, but I do think that the attack would be attempted to some degree. Gon wouldn't just go "nah, we don't do sneak punches".

That's my reasoning. I'm just as baffled by your "It's not that kind of series" answer as I was with the prior post.

[DarthEnderX]

I don't know what's so hard to understand.

This is not a series where the shonen hero defeats their arc villain in a single sneak attack.

Why that's not going to happen is irrelevant. Will Gon refuse to do it? Will she see it coming? Will she simply shrug it off? Maybe. The point is, it's not going to happen.

I guess I just don't care about why it's not going to happen. I'll find out when we get to it. All I know is it's not the resolution that we're going to get.


This is, of course, assuming that the plan is even to have Gon suckerpunch Pitou. Which it isn't, because, I'm not sure what you've been watching, but the plan is to use this power on the King, with someone more powerful than Gon.

[Kraco]

Pitou is the kind of person who jumps into situations trusting in his power, so they could possibly devise a plan to defeat him, despite the power difference. Just like they did with Bomber, who was also considerably more powerful than Gon back then. The only difficulty is how to provoke Pitou enough to make him leave the king behind. Otherwise they have all the necessary time to figure out their strategy and get ready.

It's pretty ridiculous the Hunter organization (or anybody for that matter) can't spare more fighters, whether their own or hired guns, despite their fricking chairman being involved, but I guess that's a shounen show for you; heroes must be underdogs even if logic dictates they should have the whole world backing them up.

[MFauli]

Are you adressing Pitou as a "him" to provoke? Kinda embarrassing.

[Kraco]

Are you adressing Pitou as a "him" to provoke? Kinda embarrassing.

AniDB's cast/voice actor list marks Pitou as male. It's not my fault the English language has different pronouns for male and female. I had to choose one. Without better knowledge I simply decided to choose the same as AniDB.

[MFauli]

AniDB's cast/voice actor list marks Pitou as male. It's not my fault the English language has different pronouns for male and female. I had to choose one. Without better knowledge I simply decided to choose the same as AniDB.

So Pitou looking female, sounding female, somewhat behaving female weren´t pointing towards her being female? I mean, unless she´s hiding a schlong between her legs, Pitou is female, no matter what. And she doesnt strike me as a trap character.

[Kraco]

Sure. But this is HxH. You can almost count all females of any importance in this show with the fingers of a single hand.

[DarthEnderX]

If you want to get technical, Pitou is probably neither. Since she's not a Queen, she probably has no ability to reproduce.

[MFauli]

If you want to get technical, Pitou is probably neither. Since she's not a Queen, she probably has no ability to reproduce.

"cant reproduce = not female"? pretty mean thing to say, dont ya think?

[Buffalobiian]

I don't know what's so hard to understand.

This is not a series where the shonen hero defeats their arc villain in a single sneak attack.

The entire conversation started from this:

Gon will not sneakily one-shot Pitou, let´s not kid ourselves.

To which I asked "What exactly do you mean: Gon won't try or Attack won't work?"

Personally I don't expect a successful one-shot that will take Pitou outright simply because that'll be too quick a fight to watch to be entertaining, but that all of us know that. What I was after was whether you guys thought Gon was above sneak attacks, or whether you simply thought the plan would fail somewhere even though Gon may try to. The latter I have nothing to comment about, but if you guys were arguing based on Gon being morally above such an act then I would.

This is, of course, assuming that the plan is even to have Gon suckerpunch Pitou. Which it isn't, because, I'm not sure what you've been watching, but the plan is to use this power on the King, with someone more powerful than Gon.

I don't remember specifically saying that Gon/Meleoron was going to punch Pitou. I was saying that since they're okay with punching the king, they're okay with punching Pitou in the same manner (that is, sneakily - with or without aided invisibility).

If you've never thought about (or can't be bothered to think about) the way in which things will reach your guess then so be it. That means my confusion wasn't misplaced.

[DarthEnderX]

I was saying that since they're okay with punching the king, they're okay with punching Pitou in the same manner (that is, sneakily - with or without aided invisibility).

If they actually intend to use it on the King, there's no way they're going to use it on Pitou. That's way to much of a risk of letting the King know about it and how to avoid it.

[Buffalobiian]

If they actually intend to use it on the King, there's no way they're going to use it on Pitou. That's way to much of a risk of letting the King know about it and how to avoid it.

I said "In the same manner - that is, sneakily with or without invisibility". That means sneaky punch Pitou, not using God's Accomplice twice.

[poopdeville]

It doesn't matter if it's a good idea, or even if Gon agrees to it. It's still not going to happen.

Gon did it to Hisoka. Gon did it to the Bomber. Kurapika did it to Kururo.

QED.

[DarthEnderX]

"cant reproduce = not female"? pretty mean thing to say, dont ya think?

I'm not going to get into some kind of LGBT semantic argument over fucking ants okay.

Gon did it to Hisoka. Gon did it to the Bomber.

WTF are you talking about? Neither of those things happened.

Gon used sneakiness to get hits in, yes, but MFauli expressly said "one-shot". Gon never defeated any serious opponent with a single sneak attack on an unsuspecting foe.

And the reason he hasn't done it is not because he, as a character, wouldn't do it. Or because it wouldn't work on those characters. But because that would have made an extremely shitty climax to those story arcs.

So again, it's not any in-story reason why it wouldn't happen. It won't happen because that would be a shit ending, and, as I said, this is not a "build up a fight for 2 story arcs then have the main character walk up to his enemy invisibly and punch their head off" kind of series.


Christ, is this fucking clear yet?

[MFauli]

yeah, gon used tricks while already in a fight. he never attacked an enemy before officially starting a fight, so to speak.

[Buffalobiian]

Gon used sneakiness to get hits in, yes, but MFauli expressly said "one-shot". Gon never defeated any serious opponent with a single sneak attack on an unsuspecting foe.

You know what, I lied. The convo actually started with:

As for Gon, he's got his Meleoron friend now so he gets a free shot.

Then MFauli followed up with "One"-shot, and I asked for clarifications... and everything spiralled from there. I also specified in one of the posts that by a "shot", the attack didn't really need to take Pitou out. It's a successful attack if it takes him down a notch or two to level the field.

And the reason he hasn't done it is not because he, as a character, wouldn't do it.

Christ, is this fucking clear yet?

Yeah. It took 15 a few posts to get it out of you, but yeah I know where you stand now.

[DarthEnderX]

It really wasn't as complicated as you guys were making it.

[Buffalobiian]

It really wasn't as complicated as you guys were making it.

It wasn't complicated. I just wanted someone to elaborate further on the statements "It's not going to happen" and "It's not that kind of series", but it took ages.

[MFauli]

new ep is out.

lol, im kinda always tearing up when the final scene is playing out and the ending song is fading in. Damn, such broship between Killua and Tako :3

Good to have Leol taken care of, one plot thread solved.

I didn´t like how they extra-pussywhipped Knov, when Palm had a calmer reaction about the violett chakra than him. It took, I supposed, Pitou´s chakra to stress her out. Is she dead, btw? It looked like Pitou´s chakra came rushing downstairs.

Would have liked to hear more about Knov´s losing his will to fight from Morel. Is he THAT confident in his power that seeing Knov like that doesn´t irritate him? Hm.

[Kraco]

Would have liked to hear more about Knov´s losing his will to fight from Morel. Is he THAT confident in his power that seeing Knov like that doesn´t irritate him? Hm.

Irritation wouldn't do much good. It's better to learn at this point Knov is no good than in the middle of a battle. This is so high level stuff already that either one does it or doesn't. There's no trying. Either a person has what it takes or doesn't. By the looks of it there's no way to really know beforehand, before having been subjected to the super aura.

I'd be quite surprised if Palm was still alive, especially since she didn't have what it takes either. I guess she could be still technically breathing if Pitou wants to learn why she was wandering around and thus keeps her alive. But otherwise the king should be eating her brain already since she's a nen user.