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    To be honest, what's the difference in believability between dodging bullets and simply withstanding them without getting a scratch on your skin? Some characters can do the former, some the latter. Considering Killua is an electricity man, I'd say snappy movements suit his character splendidly.

    Guns are as good as trash anyway in most superpower stories. Especially in those from Japan where sword is the ultimate weapon.

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    If you really want to start talking about hxh-logic ... iīd say whatīs even less realistic than dodging a bullet, is withstanding lightning-power high voltage electricity ... which Killua was somehow tortured and trained towards. lol

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    Especially in those from Japan where sword is the ultimate weapon.
    and thatīs why japan is the best! </otaku-mode>

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    I am not questioning the realism of what has been explained as "real" in the show. I am questioning why they can do one thing but not the other (vice versa) within the HxH world rules.

    For example, they can withstand bullets because they coat their body with Nen, which grants durability and strength. This has been proven by other things they can do, like smashing huge rocks, and being able to endure being smashed to the ground and the like.

    I'm fine with them dodging bullets, but they have to be able to run/move at a much faster speed than what has been shown/explained.

    Well, in the end this is just a pet peeve and I understand any fiction will always have something like this. I am willing to believe that the bullets or ticks that are shot in the show are much slower than real bullets, since that is the best way for it to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    such a character would have a similarily fast though-processing, which in turns means: super fast => super intelligent. Because even if youīre not smart per se, at least relatively you have all the time of the world.
    You realize that that still doesn't make you smart right? Some people could think about a problem forever and never come up with a solution while other people can think of something immediately. Or even more likely, a stupid person will come to the wrong conclusion and think it's the right right one, and stop trying to think up any more solutions before acting.

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    This goes by the same logic as DBZ: characters can move so fast that they disappear, but when they fly they're "crusing". There's that episode where Goku shows Vegeta his Instant Transmission technique and disappears. Vegeta thought it was simply superspeed, but Goku brought back a pair of glasses from Kami House which was miles away.

    I suppose it's now an anime staple where dodging-super-speed in fights is possible, while travelling at that speed for lengthy times is not. (Something I thought up: shounen heroes can survive massive blood loss from fights, but get knocked out from a little ecchi nose bleed. )

    I think the 200km/hr figure was developed in conjunction with Knuckle's powers, explaining why it's "low". Knuckle said his power had a range of 100m, and that interest is added every 3 seconds or so. That means if we want to give Cheetu some chance of figuring out the attack for suspense's sake, then his speed would have to be only a little faster than 100m/3-seconds. Anything slower and he's bound to find out about the interest before the ambush. Too fast and the ambush is guaranteed. 100m/3sec equates to 120km/hr.

    The only other way around this is to make interest build faster, or to make Knuckle's area of effect larger - and both would make Knuckle seem rather overpowered.

    Thinking about it that way.. Cheetu got nerfed for realism's sake?!
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    Maybe the Cheetah and Killua can actually sprint 1000+kph if they had to.
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    We don't really know how long the catant has been running continuously. Maybe even a day without rest. Obviously sprint and long distance running speeds are necessarily very different. Otherwise 100m sprinters would snatch the gold medals for themselves on all distances.

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    Seriously though, what the hell is manga's obsession with the insane pompadour?

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    They were badass 20-30 years ago.

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    I call it "The Kuwabara".

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    The thing Colonel Volgin says?

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    surprisingly good episode.

    one weird scene though: When Killua told them, that he mastered playing Darts at age 6 ... was that supposed to sound impressive to a Chimera Ant, not even a year old, who has already mastered the same game? :P

    Anyway, itīs all very clear now that all of those episodes with fights against lower ranked ants are meant to show that raw power is meaningless. So, exactly what Netero and Co. mentioned at the beginning of their entrance. While itīs frustrating to see Killua and Gon having trouble fighting these minions, it is necessary to somewhat justify them standing a chance against Pitou and the rest, when they meet in the future.

    I mean, thatīll still be hella unbelievable, since the power gap shown between everyone and the royal guard/king was so ridiculous gigantic. But itīs a start.

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    How did the ant siblings talk decapitated? Their lungs ought to be in their chests, not heads...

    Quite a cool episode all in all. A weird nen power and a weakness out of nowhere, but I guess it verifies the nen power rule we already knew from Kurapika's days: A much higher power can be reached if similarly much is risked. Not that the weakness would have had any role in this ep with Killua defeating them the old-fashioned way, but I guess it was necessary the narration mentioned it to make sure the power didn't seem far too powerful for random ants.

    Looks like Killua will adapt his experience from this fight to raise his already impressive reflexes to a totally inhuman level.

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    Plothole: Killua and Ikalgo, now dripping with blood.. are going to find help by swimming.

    Another fun episode. I liked Gon's response. He's not smart, and it's in his nature to trust people. He knows he can't change that, so he just makes sure that he can pulverise anybody who takes advantage of him.

    As far as character designs went, they definitely chose some good looking ones to side with the humans.

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    Ikalgo has potential as merchandising plush/figurine I guess? But since he might be shortlived, we can't be so sure.

    Regarding Killua, in those 2 eps he learnt the hardway how to dodge/protect himself from powerful/clever attacks. I guess that down the line, he could have his electricity on at a lower level. When anything approaches in under a millimeter from his skin, either his nen protection or any other reflex could activate automatically.

    And for the water escape, as you see Ikalgo chose an exit slide. So I guess his piranhia like friends do not have time to catchup. Also, I guess that the blood scent can't go upstream. So you could find a easy excuse here.

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    Haha, Killua totally Gon'd that Octopus.

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    I wouldn't have taken Killua, an assassin, to be such a good judge of character, but he surely was this time.

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    He could even be a better one than Gon. I find Gon to be too optimistic usually. Killua would have had the chance to kill lots of people during his assassin days. A fair share of those must have been selfish enough to use friends as shields and betray family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I wouldn't have taken Killua, an assassin, to be such a good judge of character, but he surely was this time.
    Was he actually judging his character though? He spared him because he thought he was cool, not because he thought he'd help him later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Was he actually judging his character though? He spared him because he thought he was cool, not because he thought he'd help him later.
    He judged him as being a "good guy" as opposed to a scumbag. I think that qualifies as judging character. If Killua spared Ikalgo because he thought he'd be of use, then that's more like judging someone's usefulness.

    On the other hand, I don't think Gon is that good a judge. Meleon comments that Gon is naive. He simply backs it up with "and if you fail me I'll kill you".

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