Hunter x Hunter 2011

[Buffalobiian]

That it saved him/them in the past is nothing but speculation. It's equally possible that very same needle would have resulted in Killua's death during this battle if he hadn't removed it. In fact the only reason it didn't already get Killua killed is Rammot being such a miserable sadist and not a real fighter.

That's true, but at the core the reason Killua acted this way was because he learned from a different teacher who tried to make him do otherwise.

. Besides, I'm sure Illumi would be perfectly ready for that the moment Killua finds out.

He would be. I'm totally expecting a "hoh... so you found out" type of response. I think he sees Killua pulling it out as a possibility but not an inevitability. Illumi will still be stronger than Killua as well I'd imagine, somewhere along the lines of Hisoka. Maybe Killua will manage to land just one punch as you say, since Illumi wouldn't expect Killua to try something so risky.

[Kraco]

I think he sees Killua pulling it out as a possibility but not an inevitability.

I'm not too sure of that. In the end Killua would have needed to remove the limit sooner or later, even without such a pressing situation where running would have resulted in the death of his only friend. It's somewhat safe to assume the needle was there to keep Killua alive until he grows genuinely strong enough. After all it was there well before he knew anything about nen but still thought he's a badass already, when in fact he was actually weaker than the run of the mill crippled nen users at the arena, for example. But in the long run he couldn't have worked as a full assassin of the family with the needle in place. Even the strongest people have a weakness, and an assassin is one who knows how to exploit that weakness, so always running is not even necessary. Just like his old man and the geezer were fighting Chrollo until Illumi informed he has taken out the employers.

Whether this is too soon for Illumi (or perhaps their old man if he's the one who told Illumi to do it), who knows. They might have expected Killua to only realise the situation much older and with much more knowledge and skills - because I doubt the Zoldyck family really anticipated Killua to do it for the sake of a friend.

[shinta|hikari]

The Zoldyck family totally does not understand shounen mechanics. The hot blooded friend loving types usually live the longest.

[DarthEnderX]

always thought that speed >>>>>> power.

I mostly agree. Being so fast you can't be hit makes your opponent's power irrelevant.

But you still need SOME power, because all the speed in the world doesn't matter if you can't even hurt your enemy.

Once he overcame his brother´s bs, he finished off Ramott like it was nothing. And the next power level are the royal guard members, right? Weird.

No, Rammot wasn't even a Squad Leader. Remember that Colt was his superior. So there's another level of ant separating Rammot from the Royal Guards.

[Kraco]

I mostly agree. Being so fast you can't be hit makes your opponent's power irrelevant.

On the other hand that speed can be turned against him as well. The faster you move, the more it hurts when you bump into something blocking your way. Like a lariat.

[David75]

Also, speed means nothing if you get caught...

[shinta|hikari]

What is haxxx about that cheetah ant is not just his speed. It is his vision. He is not just moving fast, he is seeing and thinking/reacting fast. He is seeing the enemies in slow motion.

[DarthEnderX]

Also, speed means nothing if you get caught...

If you get caught, then you weren't really that fast.

[Buffalobiian]

If you get caught, then you weren't really that fast.

You can trap a speedy guy by limiting his options (space) and predicting his movement patterns (strategy).

Also, traps in general like nets (in HxH world, say Hisoka's bungee-gum) or wide area attacks that cover the battlefield (Morel's smoke) would ensnare an opponent who doesn't know what they're walking into.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 95 is out!!

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 95 is out!!

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"Sorry, I really was about to kill you". You crack me up Gon. I think I can like that (almost painfully) naive and honest side of you too.

Damn I can't wait for that attack to hit. The teams are kind of funny though in terms of power level (the two masters are teaming together), but if they play along with the whole "power isn't everything" theme, then the current team could be the best in terms of cooperation and sync.

It seems all of our discussions about the strengths and weaknesses of speed were pretty much on the mark as well.

[David75]

At least that Cheetah has some brains and knew to run for its life instead of fighting to its death.
I wonder if it eventually will develop some nen that works agains APR and become a strong fighter.

[MFauli]

worst teams ever, lol.

I can see Morel and Glasses put up a fight against butterfly. I can also see Gon and Killua take on Pitou, for plot reasons only. But Knuckle and his team mate against devil? No chance. IF they really go through with the "special abilities trump raw power", then maaaaaaybe. But no. This is a disaster in the coming.

Although Morel seems kinda weak anyway, no more powerful than Knuckle. So maybe the two masters will die, too.

Next episode looks filler-ish. Even if it´s not. Wonder if the Spiders will do more than just off some ants elsewhere in the world. I´m thinking about who should fight Cheeta, hm. Cant remember any specially fast characters. Maybe Hisoka using his bungie gum-ability to bind him?

Edit: ALso, I kinda don´t want Cheeta to die He acted more like a hero-character than mere villain-fodder in this episode. I like him.

[Buffalobiian]

At least that Cheetah has some brains and knew to run for its life instead of fighting to its death.
I wonder if it eventually will develop some nen that works agains APR and become a strong fighter.

He was actually trying to find Morel and Knuckle to beat the shit out of them (which is the correct course of action if you wanted to get rid of APR). He just couldn't find them. Then he tried outrunning APR. I imagine he'd actually be pretty freaked out, since he's always had the security in knowing he could run away from anything he couldn't beat.

I wonder if Pitou's power only works on dead people. If not, she could make Killua and Gon fight each other.

Cant remember any specially fast characters. Maybe Hisoka using his bungie gum-ability to bind him

Feitan the executioner seemed pretty fast. Nobunaga might be able to cut Cheetah down samura-style...

Although Morel seems kinda weak anyway, no more powerful than Knuckle. So maybe the two masters will die, too.

I really liked how they both tried testing out Gon's punch, only to be shitting themselves right afterwards. xD

[shinta|hikari]

Gon is a shounen hero. With this level of resolve, he is now over 9000!

This is indeed the best shounen battle story ever made.

The Nef and Chairman fights are probably one of moments that I have ever most looked forward to in anime.

[MFauli]

The Nef and Chairman fights are probably one of moments that I have ever most looked forward to in anime.

looking forward to the chairman being offed in like 1 second.

[shinta|hikari]

You are such a kid.

[Buffalobiian]

The OP has the chairman with the kanji "heart" in the background. Combined with what this episode showed us, I'd say he could well have mind-reading (or heart/soul-reading, if you will) powers. That could well be his trump card for beating the king.

[Carnage]

Or, all shounen heroes are powered by the heart. And thats what it will take for the Team Gon to beat Team Ants.

[DarthEnderX]

The teams are kind of funny though in terms of power level (the two masters are teaming together)

I agree.

It's possible though that Colt has given them enough information on the Royal Guards and their powers that they're assigning the people best suited to fight the right opponents.

I can see Morel and Glasses put up a fight against butterfly. I can also see Gon and Killua take on Pitou, for plot reasons only. But Knuckle and his team mate against devil?

Uhh, Knuckle and Shoot beat Gon and Killua. Why do you think they'd do WORSE than them? Other than the obvious fact that they Gon and Killua have protagonist immunity.