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    Well obviously since they know someone on Kite's level was outclassed, they're going to be cautious. You are:

    A.) Underestimating Kite's professionalism, of someone who gained Ging's respect.

    B.) Claiming the Chairman and the two "badasses" should rush in unprepared after full well knowing they'd die with their current preparation.

    C.) Comparing Kite's decisions to the Chairman, who has after-the-fact knowledge of the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash! View Post
    Wait! Did you just say Kite looks worse for hurrying too much? Weren't you complaining about how he didn't just rush and deal with it all before Neferpitou hatched? Seems like whatever happens, he looks worse...
    It's relative between these two groups. Kite was taking too much time, allowing the first royal guard to hatch. Netero & Co are taking too much time, allowing the ants grow even more strong. Kite's lack of care is more complicated than these fellows', though, because obviously this new trio is far stronger, so they shouldn't need to be so afraid, which is what Gon said and I agree with. It's not like they could simply decide it's too much trouble and risk and go back home. The situation is like that of soldiers in war: There's no choice but to fight and the things worse by day.

    Well, I guess I was wrong to say this makes Kite look worse; he was the one with less information, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    Well obviously since they know someone on Kite's level was outclassed, they're going to be cautious. You are:

    A.) Underestimating Kite's professionalism, of someone who gained Ging's respect.

    B.) Claiming the Chairman and the two "badasses" should rush in unprepared after full well knowing they'd die with their current preparation.

    C.) Comparing Kite's decisions to the Chairman, who has after-the-fact knowledge of the situation.
    A) Unfortunately nothing will save his level of professionalism in my eyes. He made too big mistakes. Unless getting killed and resurrected to fight again was a part of his plans...

    B) How on Earth are they unprepared when they have had far more time and information to get prepared than Kite and have far more power at their disposal (not counting Gon & Killua's plot armour for fairness sake).

    C) Kite utterly failed at his mission, and will never be able to say he really tried his best - because he didn't. What else is there to say? Excuses, perhaps, but nobody's interested in excuses.

    We haven't yet seen enough of Netero's decisions that I could really criticize him, and so I can hope he will throw some of his caution to the winds and go kicks ass before things get out of hand for good. No matter how powerful Pitou is, it's still utterly inexperienced and probably arrogant after beating Kite so promptly. Contrary to what Splash suggested, there's no need to take them all at once because Pitou already proved it will jump to action alone if given a chance. Draw that one out, beat it 3 to 1 and then confront the rest with suitable tactics.

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    Ugh, are we still talking about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post

    We haven't yet seen enough of Netero's decisions that I could really criticize him, and so I can hope he will throw some of his caution to the winds and go kicks ass before things get out of hand for good. No matter how powerful Pitou is, it's still utterly inexperienced and probably arrogant after beating Kite so promptly. Contrary to what Splash suggested, there's no need to take them all at once because Pitou already proved it will jump to action alone if given a chance. Draw that one out, beat it 3 to 1 and then confront the rest with suitable tactics.
    The problem is that you're complaining about everything on the premise of assumptions that no one could even verify at this point. How do you know the three of them combined could beat Pitou? You don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    The problem is that you're complaining about everything on the premise of assumptions that no one could even verify at this point. How do you know the three of them combined could beat Pitou? You don't.
    If they can't, the world of humans is finished, unless some Deus ex machina suddenly appear out of nowhere to save the day. So, yeah, I make such assumptions readily. I guess there would be other possibilities, such as the ants' DNA finally having reached too much instability due to excessive combination of different species and their cells starting to spontaneously decompose, but I believe seeing good fights would be slightly more exciting. In the end nobody has any choice but to fight, now matter how worried they are. So, like Gon said, why delay the inevitable? Netero isn't growing any younger either.

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    Netero said that he was less than half of what he used to be, and that he is no longer the top hunter in the world.

    That would make Ging, Chrollo (with nen), and the Zoldyck head the top nen users in the world. Shouldn't they try to hire the Zoldycks at least?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta
    That would make Ging, Chrollo (with nen), and the Zoldyck head the top nen users in the world. Shouldn't they try to hire the Zoldycks at least?
    Was it ever said that the ones besides Ging were top?

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    Nah, I just guessed. It seems perfectly reasonable though, because Chrollo is the head of the spiders and the Zoldycks went toe to toe with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If they can't, the world of humans is finished, unless some Deus ex machina suddenly appear out of nowhere to save the day.
    Unless characters like Ging are more powerful than all the ants combined still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Unless characters like Ging are more powerful than all the ants combined still.
    I certainly hope Ging, being as legendary as he is, would be more than a match for the likes of Pitou, in power and especially experience. But I have a feeling we won't be seeing that man during this arc.

    In fact I think there should be more insanely powerful individuals out there, unless this is the last fighting arc of the series. They might not be hunters, though, since nobody has mentioned any names. They would also be irrelevant to this arc, as apparently a humanoid ant colony eating a big portion of one nation's population and ultimately threatening to spread to the rest of the world isn't big enough news in the world of this story, so few know of it. Or perhaps it's not such a big threat after all, and that's why nobody's really worried.

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    While I can but laugh at most of Kraco´s complaints, that one´s valid: Experience.

    I said in the past that the Chimera Ants made up experience with natural combat skills, just like new born mammals know how to drink from their mother´s tit. You just "know".

    But even then, there should be a significant difference between a new born fighter and somebody who´s unraveled most of nen´s mysteries. Especially nen, which, while the Chimeras can use it now, isn´t something they´re instantly familiar with.

    That´s where I´d love to see some flashback to Kite´s fight against Pitou. Even with just one arm, he should have been able to do something. Sure, in a raw fist fight, Pitou would be unstoppable. But high-level fights aren´t about raw power (unless you reach a certain level at the very top where raw power becomes the only important aspect a gain, lol).

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    Nef loved the fight enough to wanna redo it, so I bet it was neck and neck the entire time, with Kite only having one arm. You would not want a rematch against someone not on your level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    You would not want a rematch against someone not on your level.
    We are talking about a bitch that clearly loved to poke the brain of a paralyzed person. Neferpitou probably just wants to kill Kite in 100 different ways. It's love, ant style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
    It's curiosity, playfulness and cruelty, cat style.
    This.....

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    Episode 87 is out!!


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    Seeing Knuckle freak out about Gon's punch was my favourite part of this episode.
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    I just dunno ... will it be enough? I guess in terms of defeating Knuckle, we´ll have a "now strip off your heavy training clothes"-Dragonball Z-moment - at some point, Biske will allow Gon and Killua to get proper rest before another attempt and then they´ll suddenly overwhelm Knuckle.

    But somehow, that doesn´t feel like it´d be enough to return to the NGL. Unless the training they´re doing with keeping up their nen is something highly difficult, something dangerous, that your normal run-of-the-mill hunters wouldn´t ever manage to do.

    My favorite moment: Gon admitting that they cannot always rely on sheer will power to win a battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    But somehow, that doesn´t feel like it´d be enough to return to the NGL. Unless the training they´re doing with keeping up their nen is something highly difficult
    How long does it take to add an extra 10mins to your Ren? Did Bisky say 1 month last time?

    Gon/Killua did an extra 125mins within 10 days or so.

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    Biske´s nen power is total hax, anyway. Insta-regeneration. It´ll only be more hax when Pitou actually manages to revive Kite. To be honest, I hope it fails. Reviving someone clearly dead brings the whole afterlife-bullshit, which, if you´re lacking a fleshed-out concept for it, is only silly.

    It´s why the reviving in Dragonball is good, and why it´s fuckdumb in Naruto.

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    It seems to me Neferpitou will resurrect Kite, who will then defeat Neferpitou. What's the point otherwise? Kite can then afterwards grab a bag of potato chips and proclaim: Just as planned!

    Gon & Killua's training ought to give them good chances against opponents below the royal guards, especially assuming they attack 2 vs 1. Actually beating royal guards would seem like a stretch at this point.

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