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    As I (and others) assumed, it seems that the chimera monsters are natural nen-users, independent of any food source. So as I guessed before, I think Phagogenesis is their inherent nen-ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    So as I guessed before, I think Phagogenesis is their inherent nen-ability.
    That's still not a conclusion I would come to. The spider guy and the earlier autopsy both confirmed that the grunts (which seem to be less human than the higher ranked ones) couldn't see Pokkle's arrows. I would expect having human dominant traits would be a minimum requirement to allow the spider guy to be able to see nen.

    Phagogenesis is an innate ability of chimera ant queens, human genes or not. I don't see why it has to be anything more than a biological process for them. Either ways, it doesn't matter too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash! View Post
    But having Pokkle give them a better understanding of their own powers will indeed make them much stronger.
    I'm betting at the very least they'll need Pokkle in order to learn unique abilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    As I (and others) assumed, it seems that the chimera monsters are natural nen-users, independent of any food source.
    I think it's just that they're like people that way. Some people have more natural talent with Nen than others. And the Ants that happen to be made from those people will have inherited that talent.


    Also on note is that this episode they revealed that the Ants don't just remember vague knowledge. They retain some actual memories from the people they came from, as Colt showed when he remembered his sisters name.


    It also seems pretty clear to me at this point that the queen can't just eat something, and then pass that ability on to ALL of it's offspring. Every specific creature she eats can get loaded into one specific offspring. She can put a lot of creatures into one offspring, but she can't take one victim and spread their abilities out over multiple offspring.

    Which means every ant with human intelligence requires a specific human sacrifice. Which hopefully means that every Ant they want to give advanced Nen abilities requires a specific Nen user to be eaten.

    It's either that, or once they eat Pokkle and learn exactly HOW Nen works, they can just teach any other Nen-talented ant how to use it.
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    The king looks a bit like Pokkle, so I'm going to say he's the most advanced Nen user of the bunch. I don't think teaching is going to happen, but the guards and monsters will be pretty strong anyway when they combine their physical capabilities with nen potential.

    As for the one-off genetics, it's hard to say. If we use that current logic, that means that the queen would have continues to eat crabs, turtles, scorpions and cheetahs along with humans. My impression was that ever since she acquired a taste form humans, she's been eating them exclusively.

    Thinking about it, there isn't very much "ant" left in them anymore. The funny thing too is that the queen tries to birth a king instead of future queens. So what happens to the next generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Thinking about it, there isn't very much "ant" left in them anymore. The funny thing too is that the queen tries to birth a king instead of future queens. So what happens to the next generation?
    Going by the Hunter x Hunter Wiki (Spoiler Website), the Queen gives birth to the King, which in turn leaves the hive to impregnate another different organism to produce the next Queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkoujin View Post
    Going by the Hunter x Hunter Wiki (Spoiler Website), the Queen gives birth to the King, which in turn leaves the hive to impregnate another different organism to produce the next Queen.

    Hahahaha.. oh god, that's great..
    (only read until I got what I needed)

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    Was it me, or did this episode feel like 2 minutes.
    The whole Gyro backstory felt a bit dragged out to me.. just mentioning a messed up childhood would've been enough. Maybe it will become useful information later...

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    Why the hell is this in a children's anime time slot? Shit's brutal yo!

    I wonder how Gon and Killua will fare against the chimera ants. The arrows guy never gave me the impression of being that strong but he lost to almost scrub tier bugs, that spider guy wasn't even a squad leader.

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    I don't expect any of our main characters are going to have any real difficulty with anything less than the royal guards. I don't think it's coincidence we have 3 royal guards and 3 main protagonists here.

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    Based on everything we have seen, it would make no sense they would have troubles with random lower tier ants, as those ants have hardly shown any extraordinary prowess so far. I could perhaps see the captains already posing a threat, maybe pushing Gon and Killua to finish polishing some techniques that could then really shine against the royal guards. However, the lieutenants could show us some jolly scenes of an ant acting all arrogant and confident, but then getting one-shot defeated.

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    the MCs must rely on their Nen abilities since the bugs have them beat in the physical department. Gyo bugs will pose some problems until the Hunters use something involved like lightning. Royal guards will be a problem, so I don't even know how the King would come in. Maybe Hunter Association pops in at the end with some killer moves or something, since I doubt we'll see Gin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Gyo bugs will pose some problems until the Hunters use something involved like lightning.
    Why? It's not like having Gyo has made anyone else difficult for Gon and Killua to defeat.

    All Gyo is going to do is let them see how glowy Gon's fist is right before he puts it through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Why?
    Because the bugs are physically superior.

    By "involved", I mean actually trying. So like 85% strength and upwards.

    Royal guards would take 100%, if not more (pressured improvement - aka penguin's "Human's capacity to learn").

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    81 is out!

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    Holy shit, a 2 on 1 with a foot soldier and they had that much trouble with it? They better hope backup is coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Why? It's not like having Gyo has made anyone else difficult for Gon and Killua to defeat.

    All Gyo is going to do is let them see how glowy Gon's fist is right before he puts it through them.
    Haha, and even then I underestimated, though I suppose Rammot was like, 2nd-command of a squad under Colt like the spider is under Zazan (hot damn Zazan), so that's not too bad an effort. (comment also directed @Ark)

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    Ugh. I am severely disappointed in their performance...

    That said, Killua has gone from electrified Yo-yos to just straight up throwing lightning bolts since the last time he fought anyone.

    I swear Togashi has ADHD or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Ugh. I am severely disappointed in their performance...

    That said, Killua has gone from electrified Yo-yos to just straight up throwing lightning bolts since the last time he fought anyone.

    I swear Togashi has ADHD or something...
    He couldn't use his hands last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Ugh. I am severely disappointed in their performance...

    That said, Killua has gone from electrified Yo-yos to just straight up throwing lightning bolts since the last time he fought anyone.

    I swear Togashi has ADHD or something...
    No, Killua used Electric Palm last time, then just beat the shit out of the guy with his yoyo (non-electric).

    This time, he tried a lightning bolt. The range has increased, but the effect is probably slightly lengthened (based on what we saw, there's no way for us to scale the power between Bomber jnr #2 and this Ant).

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    I´m dying from pure awesomeness in this episode. Fantastic, gorgeous, great!

    I expected the winged rabbit-chimera to be cannon fodder to our heroes. Completely wrong. Goddamn! This guy even gave me the chills, when he shouted, screamed at them while his leader flew him to safety. Kind of reminiscent of Uborgin. These guys are strong, and now we know just how strong they are. And even then ... Kaito was super cool.

    The preview seems to indicate that Gon and Killua will take out some of the higher Chimeras, however. Well, they have to start somewhere.

    Want to see Pokkle, and also know if the queen already ate the NGL leader.

    Anyway, judging from this episode, I guess there´s a reason why we see Netero in the opening, haha.

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