Yeah, but in any series where characters have unique superpowers it means the only way to give this character new powers is to kill off other characters.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
For exampe, Sylar from Heroes. The only way for him to become a more powerful and threatening villain, is to have him killing off your favorite characters.
Eating the target does kill them. You're both agreeing that killing to take powers = way it should be done.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well, in a lot of series characters like this don't always assimilate powers through consumption.
Per the Heroes example earlier, [spoiler]Peter DOESN'T kill people to obtain their powers. As he's an Empathic Mimic as opposed to Digestive Assimilation.[/spoiler]
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Mon, 04-29-2013 at 10:03 AM. Reason: spoiler-tagging
Heroes sucked, I don´t knoiw why anyone would use it to prove anything.
Well, A. Season 1 of Heroes was awesome. And B. Prove what? We weren't having an argument. We were talking about powers we like and I was using it as an example.
You´re right, season 1 was great, and season 2 had potential. Either way, I don´t like characters that can copy other characters´ abilities. However, the chimera ants are different from that imo. The queen cant copy abilities for herself. She can only outfit her children with it. And probably at random, too, unless she has control over her dna.
Episode 78 is out!!
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Okay, that devolved from bug people into full blown furries in a real hurry...
Anyway, the Queen is already making the King and she still hasn't eaten any Hunters. Not sure how much of a threat these guys are logically suppose to post to our protagonists.
I mean, at best it's just all the mental capabilities of a human with all the best physical qualities of animals.
That's cool and all, but it's not going to do much to a kid who can punch holes in mountains.
Also, Worst. Amish. Ever.
Scorpion girl is mine. For now. Until catgirl from the opening appears :>
Anyway, I have trouble writing about this episode, since literally every single scene was good, fun, interesting.
Maybe what I love most at the moment is how "random" the plot has become. And I mean that as praise. Giant bugs suddenly appearing and killing people, Gon going there. That´s 100% unrelated to both his search for his father and his personal growth. Oh sure, Gon will develop further during this new adventure, but it´s not like the Yorkshin-arc, where, even though the Spiders weren´t his top priority, it was all part of introducing nen powers. The Chimera-arc, as it is right now, is really just that: An adventure. And I love that.
You know, the only reason why HXH hasn´t turned into a full-blown Gantz-style anime is because of the less gruesome presentation. Seriously, that first village that got attacked ... just grabbing people, piercing holes through their bodies, and then throwing them on a pile, only for some bug queen to be eaten. That is super gruesome and cruel. It´s also such a mood shit. These aren´t enemies with a political purpose. They want to eat you and that´s all. No room for debates. At all.
Lastly, let me say that the chimera-monsters remind me a lot of Tengen Toppa´s beastmen. Am I right that the chimera-arc was released before Tengen Toppa? If so: Another anime that copied from HXH
Really? I got pretty bored. Hopefully we'll get Gon and Killua doing something next episode, because I can only watch so much "We'll sit over here and think about bugs, while bugs kill this island and make themselves at home".
Character designs have something to do with it as well, I think. I'm not super-fond of these random chimeras.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well, you have to start looking at the Chimeras as characters. They´re as much characters as Gon for now.
By random, I'm talking about their appearance. Sure, randomness is apt for high-production offspring - but still random.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
As random as what the Queen eats. And she tries anything she gets.
I was just a little put off by the fact every chimera now speaks and even has a fairly high intellect... at least Turtle and Pinguin.
That's extremely fast considering the first talking chimera was our little brother and sister chimera and their mother did not die from exhaustion yet. So we're talking about 2 weeks? 5 weeks? Way too fast to my liking.
But I guess this is part of that arc setting, so that chimeras can adapt very quickly to first fire arms and army, then nen users... with the Ponzu group giving nice genes and powers, etc.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Hey, they´re not dead, yet, asshole
Ponzu <3
I don't think anyone other than the King should have nen powers. The Royal Guards should be the last group of soldiers before the King comes, and they're already in development outside of the queen. Assuming the island didn't have any Nen users already, the only chimera ant that can still vary its power is the King.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I beginning to think the author has set it up so that he can do literally any story type he wants and not have to create a new manga for it.
I mean, Christ, the last arc was a goddamn card battle anime. Which should have NOTHING to do with the original premise set forth by the series.
But you didn't have a problem with the one from last week that could talk from birth?
There is no developmental process here. The new ones are probably exactly as smart as some of the people the Queen ate. That's how it works. There's no gradual buildup. If she can get something in her mouth, her offspring can be just as good immediately.
Considering Ponzu hasn't managed to pass the Hunter exam yet, I find it unlikely that Ponzu even has Nen powers yet.
Bow kid probably does though since he's apparently a Hunter now.
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I said Ponzu group as that's the only name I remember and I do not think she'd die even if she's supposed to be the weakest from the group... because she knows about social insects, they can protect her and she manages poisons well.
I meant the other ones, probably the 2 other heads I think we've seen for the first time.
For the boyish character we've already seen? I don't care about him.
My guess is that from that group, the 2 no names might have some nen and would be a great upgrade for the colony.
MFauli, just be careful ok ?
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The queen must be a pretty mighty nen user already. Otherwise the offspring wouldn't be born with so high skills. What other power but nen could explain how well she mixes genetic traits and also pumps the intelligence and wisdom of the victims into her children?
Personally I wish the ants all looked more like insects, like the queen, only with secondary traits from the other creatures the queen eats, but I guess this approach makes more sense with the skill and attribute sets they possess. Still, considering they are so intelligent, it should be impossible to remain so loyal. Even the fact the crocodile ant was so keen on competing with others suggests he would rather see himself on top. First on top of the other squad captains, then on top of the whole colony!
The genetic power of chimera ants?
They've been able to do that from the beginning, that's what we're led to believe.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
True, but in the HxH universe nen isn't, per se, any magical ability. It's inherent to the world and the raw potential a person has is dictated by their genes. There's no particular reason why beasts wouldn't possess it. In the end the basics are incredibly simple and don't require high intelligence and consciousness (or Gon would never learn anything). The advanced techniques, yes, but if we are talking about beasts, it would be highly specialized techniques. There are many monsters in the HxH universe (not talking about Gon), and their existence and ability to survive and operate could be explained by nen.
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