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    Next week is GI's last episode...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    It's quite refreshing shounen wise that he's not there to judge people like Genthru, jamming his own values down everybody else's throats.
    It is refreshing and does make the story unique, but sometimes its also silly. Judging a man who went around slaughtering players in a game that wasn't explicitly made to be played that way isn't very controversial.

    Also, Togashi slips up on the neutrality bit from time to time. I can recall Gon asking Chrollo how he can emotionlessly kill people he doesn't know. A story where the protagonist is actually neutral rather than leaning towards good would seem sociopathic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    Also, Togashi slips up on the neutrality bit from time to time. I can recall Gon asking Chrollo how he can emotionlessly kill people he doesn't know. A story where the protagonist is actually neutral rather than leaning towards good would seem sociopathic.
    Indeed. It's only more believable he occasionally slips and is not robotic about it. It's not like Gon himself could ever go around killing people summarily for his own benefit. He has his definite values, so it's natural he would every now and then question other people. But he hasn't made his life's mission to convert everybody to his own way of thinking and believing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    It is refreshing and does make the story unique, but sometimes its also silly. Judging a man who went around slaughtering players in a game that wasn't explicitly made to be played that way isn't very controversial.

    Also, Togashi slips up on the neutrality bit from time to time. I can recall Gon asking Chrollo how he can emotionlessly kill people he doesn't know. A story where the protagonist is actually neutral rather than leaning towards good would seem sociopathic.
    It's not like Gon approves of murder, he just didn't want to sink to Genthru's level. I don't see how his attitude towards Chrollo and here differ in any way.

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    Gon and Killua acknowledged that Greed Island is a game where it is implicit that you will be putting your life on the line. When you come into that game, you expect that you will be confronted with life or death situations. Killua contrasted that to the assassinations he performed in which his victims were not expecting to die or willing to put their lives on the line. Also, take into account Gon's attitude towards people trying to kill him. He does not hold it against his opponent. Gon's only anger issues with Genthru in that fight was that Genthru refused to use his ability initially, and that he went back on his word. Otherwise, his attitude towards Genthru would be more like "Well, if we fight, one of us may die. This is the nature of fighting, no hard feelings. But in the case I win yet you live, I will heal you. that's just who I am."

    Also, last time I watched this, I didn't realize how close Gon came to winning that fight without resorting to the plan. Genthru got lucky in that he tripped over the rock and avoided the attack.
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Indeed. It's only more believable he occasionally slips and is not robotic about it. It's not like Gon himself could ever go around killing people summarily for his own benefit. He has his definite values, so it's natural he would every now and then question other people. But he hasn't made his life's mission to convert everybody to his own way of thinking and believing.
    Yeah I think that's the best way to put it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    It's not like Gon approves of murder, he just didn't want to sink to Genthru's level. I don't see how his attitude towards Chrollo and here differ in any way.
    Im not saying they're different, I am agreeing Gon doesn't approve of murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    Gon and Killua acknowledged that Greed Island is a game where it is implicit that you will be putting your life on the line. When you come into that game, you expect that you will be confronted with life or death situations. Killua contrasted that to the assassinations he performed in which his victims were not expecting to die or willing to put their lives on the line. Also, take into account Gon's attitude towards people trying to kill him. He does not hold it against his opponent. Gon's only anger issues with Genthru in that fight was that Genthru refused to use his ability initially, and that he went back on his word. .
    Did you watch the beginning of the arc? After hearing about the bomber Gon was blatantly upset that someone had turned his father's game into a killing competition. Its a little different than risking your life fighting the monsters and events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    Did you watch the beginning of the arc? After hearing about the bomber Gon was blatantly upset that someone had turned his father's game into a killing competition. Its a little different than risking your life fighting the monsters and events.
    I feel like maybe that was his feelings only in the beginning when he didn't actually know any better. Round about the time he was fighting Razor in a game of Deathball he probably realized that "Oh, dad hired Death Row inmates to kill anyone that tries to actually win this game, I guess he really DID design this place as a giant murder machine."

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    Episode 75 is out!!

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    I wonder if Togashi had any idea when he made that anagram.

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    I´m so giddy right now. Finally, we´re getting past the Greed Island in anime-form! OMG, dat preview!!!1

    But let´s stay where we are for a moment. Greed Island is such a fantastic arc. What I just thought about, was, that the whole goal of the game is a really peaceful one. "Gather all cards" is all. Think about that. What video games have such peaceful goals? Look at World of Warcraft or other grand titles, it´s all about defeating evil. HXH manages to tell an exciting story DESPITE a seemingly lame outlook.

    Anyway, I´m too stoked for next week
    Now it´s a real contest: HXH or Shingeki no Kyojin, what will be best!

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    By the way does anyone know where to download the OST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    By the way does anyone know where to download the OST?
    http://animeost.info/8086/hunter-x-hunter-2011-ost
    http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=search&cats...=0&term=hunter

    animeost gets me a 403 error atm, but it normally works.

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    So one of the things that occurs to me is that, Greed Island is a game built in the real world by 11 Nen users, does that mean that those Nen users possess the Nen abilities of every card in the game? I mean, they'd have to have that ability to make a card that can do that ability wouldn't they? Especially since they can make the cards work in the real world if they want.

    Either that, or it's one person whose Nen ability is that they can do anything, provided they have the ridiculous requirements that make up the entire game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    So one of the things that occurs to me is that, Greed Island is a game built in the real world by 11 Nen users, does that mean that those Nen users possess the Nen abilities of every card in the game? I mean, they'd have to have that ability to make a card that can do that ability wouldn't they? Especially since they can make the cards work in the real world if they want.

    Either that, or it's one person whose Nen ability is that they can do anything, provided they have the ridiculous requirements that make up the entire game.
    I think different Game Masters handle different cards. Razor mentioned he handles most of the emitter stuff when he met the Troupe and crushed their boat.

    Thanks Buffalobiian!

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    So them presumably, it's the first thing, where between them, they have all the abilities of all of the cards.

    So there's someone in those 11 people who can just heal any person of any injury short of death instantly?

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    My hypothesis is that the GMs can only use their Spell Cards only on that island and yes, it would make sense that someone would be able to heal all injuries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkoujin View Post
    My hypothesis is that the GMs can only use their Spell Cards only on that island and yes, it would make sense that someone would be able to heal all injuries...
    Kurapica could do some pretty amazing stuff with Emperor Time with Enforcer abilities.. so yeah I can see it happening.

    What DE brings up is that it would mean Gin is NOT needed to run the game since he's on walkabouts.

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    They could have a huge stockpile of those cards, made by various members, many not anymore living on the island. Heck, they could have even bought some from outsiders. Nen seems to remain in objects for a very long time, so nothing would prevent that, to keep the game running despite people leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    They could have a huge stockpile of those cards, made by various members, many not anymore living on the island. Heck, they could have even bought some from outsiders. Nen seems to remain in objects for a very long time, so nothing would prevent that, to keep the game running despite people leaving.
    The whole idea that only a certain number of cards can be in play at any one time, and that the number refreshes once the card is used suggests otherwise though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enkoujin View Post
    My hypothesis is that the GMs can only use their Spell Cards only on that island and yes, it would make sense that someone would be able to heal all injuries...
    But if the winner of the game can take any 3 cards out of the game and use them, then logically, the GMs with the powers that made those cards in the first place would be able to use those powers freely in the world as well.


    This is not, like, a suggestions of what the GMs can do with their cards.

    I was just musing over the fact that one of those GMs apparently has a Nen ability that lets them teleport groups of people anywhere on the planet. One of them has a Nen ability heal any injury. One of them has the ability to make you super lucky 19 times out of 20. Etc.
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