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    Quote Originally Posted by antiravage View Post
    Togashi is recognized by the most impartial manga fans as the most talented mangaka working for shonen jump.
    I'm gonna call bullshit on this unless a mangaka's quality is judged completely separately from the quality of their artwork.

    I also love the use of the term "impartial manga fans" while sounding like the exact opposite of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder View Post
    I'm gonna call bullshit on this unless a mangaka's quality is judged completely separately from the quality of their artwork.
    Not my fault that instead of buying the volumes, you try to rip the man off by reading his manga online. Like I said, Togashi is lazy. He rushes many of his chapters to the point you can’t understand what’s going on… and that’s why he redraws those chapters for the volume releases… Unfortunately for those who only read it online, you can’t find the touched up version online. That’s why you’re stuck with the shitty scans and with shitty translations.

    Comparison (some pages of future arcs, beware):

    Find images not from future arcs for comparison.


    I also love the use of the term "impartial manga fans" while sounding like the exact opposite of that.
    Well, it’s true. Who else other than Togashi can tell the shonen jump editors to fuck off? Who else can take as many breaks as he does? Who else stops drawing for 2 years so that he can play rpgs? You think shonen jump puts up with it because they like the guy? No, he calls the shots because he earned it. Kishimoto, who know, Naruto’s mangaka, bows down to Togashi and asked the man if he could take some ideas from his mangas (read his interviews with Togashi and you’ll see). Even Kubo’s formula is taken from YYH.

    I just found it disrespectful for you (someone who seems not to know a lot about the guy) to say that the anime was what made his work great.
    Last edited by Kraco; Tue, 02-21-2012 at 02:52 PM. Reason: Edited due to spoilering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiravage View Post
    Not my fault that instead of buying the volumes, you try to rip the man off by reading his manga online.
    Yes "guy on forum for anime unreleased in the US that's also the forum to a group that does illegal fansubs" I'm sure you don't read manga online at all...

    Quote Originally Posted by antiravage View Post
    He rushes many of his chapters to the point you can't understand what's going on'; and that's why he redraws those chapters for the volume releases;
    I love how, somehow, in your head, this sounded like a totally reasonable defense.

    "Guys! He's just lazy and incomprehensible! That's why you can't tell what an artistic genius he is!"

    Also, he somehow finds the time to redraw these things before they come out in volumes, yet continues to release his current stuff looking like ass. You ever think maybe if he spent the time he spends redoing the old stuff on the current stuff instead, maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the first place?

    Quote Originally Posted by antiravage View Post
    Well, it’s true. Who else other than Togashi can tell the shonen jump editors to fuck off? Who else can take as many breaks as he does? Who else stops drawing for 2 years so that he can play rpgs? You think shonen jump puts up with it because they like the guy? No, he calls the shots because he earned it. Kishimoto, who know, Naruto’s mangaka, bows down to Togashi and asked the man if he could take some ideas from his mangas (read his interviews with Togashi and you’ll see).
    Because in Japan, nothing is more important than seniority. He gets the respect he does because he's been doing it the longest.

    Quote Originally Posted by antiravage View Post
    I just found it disrespectful for you (someone who seems not to know a lot about the guy) to say that the anime was what made his work great.
    I don't know or care ANYTHING about the guy on a personal level. I judge him by the work he produces. And from what I've seen, he's a good storyteller, and a terrible artist.
    Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sun, 02-26-2012 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder View Post
    Also, he somehow finds the time to redraw these things before they come out in volumes, yet continues to release his current stuff looking like ass. You ever think maybe if he spent the time he spends redoing the old stuff on the current stuff instead, maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the first place?
    Sounds like good business if he can make people pay twice for the same product, only first in inferior quality, then normal. Much better than using aired anime with heavy censoring and graphical mistakes to market the eventual BDs without censoring and the glitches fixed. After all, people don't pay for the aired episodes.

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